Thomas Greene

Thomas Greene (1397 - 1461)

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Sir Thomas Greene aka de Greene, Grene
Born in Greens Norton, Northamptonshire, Englandmap
Ancestors ancestors
Husband of — married before 1417 [location unknown]
Husband of — married before 7 Dec 1434 in Fawesley, Northamptonshire, Englandmap
Descendants descendants
Died in Chilton Stone Ham, Suffolk, Englandmap
Profile last modified 8 Aug 2019 | Created 25 Dec 2013
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Biography

He was said to be aged 18 in his father's 1417 i.p.m. i.e. born about 1399[1][2].

The Greene monuments at St Bartholomew, Green’s Norton, Northamptonshire, now largely destroyed, were described by Halstead in 1685[3]. Thomas was recorded on the monument to his son, another Sir Thomas Greene. The Inscription was in Latin, a translation of which is:

"Here lies Thomas Greene, Knight, Lord of Norton, and Matilda, his wife. The said Thomas was son and heir of Thomas Greene, Knight, Lord of the same, and of Philippa, his wife, who was the daughter of Robert, Lord Ferrars of Charteley, and of Elizabeth his wife, daughter of Lord Thomas de Spencer. Thomas Greene, the father of Thomas aforesaid, was son and heir of Thomas Greene, Knight, Lord of Norton aforesaid, and of Mary his wife, daughter of Richard, Lord Talbot, and of Ankarete, his wife, who was the daughter and heir of Lord Strange of Blackmere. Thomas, son of Thomas and Philippa aforesaid, died on the ninth of September, A.D. 1462; and the said Matilda, one of the daughters of John Throckmorton, Esq., formerly Under-Treasurer of England, died on the …. Of the month of … A.D. 14 … May God be gracious to their souls."

Sources

  1. J. L. Kirby, 'Inquisitions Post Mortem, Henry V, Entries 750-799', in Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem: Volume 20, Henry V (London, 1995), pp. 234-248. British History Online http://www.british-history.ac.uk/inquis-post-mortem/vol20/pp234-248. Thomas Grene, Knight.
  2. Inquisitions Post Mortem relating to Yorkshire, of the Reigns of Henry IV and Henry V. Baildon and Clay (Eds.). The Yorkshire Archaeological Society. Record Series. Vol. LIX. 1918, p137. IPM Thomas Grene, Chivaler. [1].
  3. The Greene Family in England and America with Pedigrees. Published Boston 1901. [2].
  • ROYAL ANCESTRY by Douglas Richardson, Vol. III, page 119
  • Feet of Fines, "Some Notes on Medieval English Genealogy", CP 25/1/179/94, number 75.
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Westminster, Northamptonshire. One week from St Michael, 13 Henry VI [6 October 1434].
Parties: John Throkmarton', querent, and Thomas Grene, knight, and Philippe, his wife, deforciants.




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On 20 Dec 2018 at 17:48 GMT Leigh Anne (Johnson) Dear wrote:

Greene-2165 and Greene-4016 appear to represent the same person because: They are the exact same person after careful study. Greene-4016 has serious edit and source issues. Greene-2165 does not. I propose Green-2165 overlay Greene-4016.

On 20 Dec 2018 at 17:41 GMT Leigh Anne (Johnson) Dear wrote:

This is a duplicate Thomas Greene only son of Thomas Greene of same location and Mary Talbot.

On 19 Oct 2018 at 22:56 GMT William Catambay wrote:

Bio states: "He was said to be aged 18 in his father's 1417 i.p.m. ie born 1399, not 1397)." Another good reason for that change is that it makes more sense for Mary Talbot being the mother (having child at age 16 vs age 14).

On 18 Sep 2018 at 06:03 GMT David Cooper wrote:

His alleged mother would have been 6 when he was born. Either his dob is wrong or he's got the wrong parents. I suspect the latter as they already had a son Thomas.

On 17 Sep 2018 at 13:26 GMT David Cooper wrote:

Is there any evidence that he died in Suffolk rather than Green's Norton, Northamptonshire?

On 27 Jul 2017 at 16:09 GMT Liz (Noland) Shifflett wrote:

upon saving, received the following automated message:
Warning: Check the data.
  • A birth date should not be more than 60 years before or after a sibling's birth date.

On 16 Mar 2015 at 00:45 GMT Cheryl Hammond wrote:

Hello PMs! Wanted to let you know that I'll be working on documenting Thomas Owsley's Magna Carta Trail on behalf of the Magna Carta Project. Please don't hesitate to reach out if you have any questions.

On 26 Oct 2014 at 14:56 GMT Sheri Havens wrote:

Greene-2165 and De Grene-7 appear to represent the same person because: I found this while cleaning up the other family profiles.

On 26 Oct 2014 at 14:35 GMT Sheri Havens wrote:

Thomas had two daughters named Elizabeth one with Philippa and another supposedly with wife Marina. Thomas, also had a daughter-in-law Elizabeth Eden who was married to his son Richard Greene.

Thomas is 19 degrees from Mags Gaulden, 20 degrees from Dennis Wilson and 5 degrees from Henry VIII of England on our single family tree. Login to find your connection.

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