John  Greene Sr.

John Greene Sr. (1591 - 1659)

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Dr. John "The Surgeon" Greene Sr.
Born in Bowridge Hall, Gillingham, Dorset, Englandmap
Ancestors ancestors
Husband of — married in St Thomas Church,Salisbury,Wiltshire, Englandmap
Descendants descendants
Died in Warwick, Kent, Rhode Islandmap
Greene-43 created 6 Aug 2010 | Last modified | Last edit: 6 Sep 2017
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Biography

Note: relatively sure the below was copied from somewhere (yet to be determined) as it is also found as a unsourced "story " on a Family Tree at Ancestry.com.

John Greene was born in 1597, probably at Bowridge Hall, Gillingham, Dorsetshire, England, where his father Richard and grandfather Richard (son of Robert ) resided. He was married in 1619 at St. Thomas Church in Salisbury, Wiltshire, England, to Joan Tattersall, and there he did practice his profession as a surgeon. He sailed in the ship "James" on April 6, 1635 from Southampton, Eng. and arrived in Boston on June 3,1635. He lived in Salem, Mass for two years and was a friend of Roger Williams. On August the 1st. 1637, he was bound in 100 marks to appear at the next Quarter Court for having spoken contemptuously of the Magistrates. At this he departed for Providence to join Roger Williams. On Sept. 29, 1637 he was fined 20 Pounds and to be committed till paid, and enjoined not to come into the jurisdiction of this Court upon pain of fine and imprisonment at the pleasure of the Court for speaking so contemptuously of Magistrates. On March 12, 1638 he sent a letter to the General Court of Mass. charging them " with usurping the power of Christ over the churches and men's consciences" etc., and for this he was ordered not to come into Mass. under pain of imprisonment and furthur censure. He was one of the twelve to whom Roger Williams deeded the land he bought on Oct. 8, 1638 from Canonicus and Miantonomoh. In the same year he was on of the twelve original members of the First Baptist Church. For 144 Fathoms of Wampum he and ten others on Jan. 12, 1643 then bought from Miamtonomoh the tract of land which became the town of Warwick Sept. 12, 1643 the men of Warwick were summoned to Boston on the complaint of Pomham and Socconocco, but they refused to go, as they claimed they were beyond the limits os Mass. authority. Soldiers were sent and besieged the settlers in a fortified house. He escaped but all the rest were carried to Boston and imprisoned until March, when they and he were banished. With two others he went to England to obtain redress for their wrongs. He was obliged to take a ship from New York {back to England}; he returned in 1646 successful. He was commissioner in 1654, 1655-6-7. His wife Joan died about the time of his leaving from England. He married Alice Daniels, a widow, who died in 1643. He Married again this time to Phillis (?), who survived him and died Mar. 10, 1688. He Died in 1658, leaving a will which was proven Jan. 7, 1659. He named his wife, Phillis executrix (except as to matters with William Arnold, which his son John was to attend to). In the will he gives to his wife, sons John, Peter, James, and Thomas and to daut. Mary Sweet and grand child Ann Hade ( his daut. Joan's child).

Occupation

Surgeon From Salisbury, England

Birth

09 FEB 1597 Bowridge Hill, Gillingham, Dorset, England[1]

Marriage

4 NOV 1619 St Thomas Church, Salisbury, Wiltshire, England[1]

Emigration

6 APR 1635 Hampton, England, Ship "James"[2]
Arrival: Boston, MA on the "James"

Children

St. Thomas's Church in the City of Salisbury, Wiltshire, England. Extract from the Parish Register, which begins 1570: Married. 1619, November 4, John Greene to Joane Tatarsole. Children baptisms:

  1. 1620, August 15, John ye son of John and Joane Greene. (married Anne Almy).
  2. 1621/2, March 10, Peter the son of John and Joane Greene. (married Mary Gorton.)
  3. 1624, March 25, Richard, the son of Mr. John and Mrs Joan Greene. (died young, probably in England).
  4. 1626, June 21, James, of Mr. John and Mrs Joane Greene. (married (i) Deliverance Potter; (ii) Elizabeth Anthony).
  5. 1628, June 4, Thomas, sonne of John and Joane Greene, gent'm. (married Elizabeth Barton).
  6. 1630, Oct 3, Jone daur. of John and Jone Greene. (married John Hade).
  7. 1633, May 19, Mary of John and Jone Greene, Chirtorgeon. (married James Sweet).

Death

3 January 1659[3]
07 JAN 1659 Warwick, Kent, Rhode Island[1]

Sources

Footnotes

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 Brøderbund WFT: Vol. 6, Ed. 1, Tree #0685
  2. The Heraldic Journal
  3. Clarke: Page 58

Biography

Important Notes: . . . "John Greene, surgeon, should have used upon an official letter to England at an early date (1692) a seal with the arms of the Greenes of Boughton and Greene's Norton, Northamptonshire, the same arms being recorded in the Herald's College, (Soberby), as borne by Robert Greene of Gillingham, Dorsetshire, England, who was the great-grandfather of John Greene, surgeon, and from whom the records are unbroken. . . . The letter alluded to was of no special importance save for its seal. It was addressed to Sir Robert Southwell, Knight, one of the Secrtetaries of State to their Majesties' Privy Council, at Whitehall, London, bearing the date December 21, 1692. It was sealed with red wax, having the impression of the Greene arms. . . "

John was born circa 1590 at the family estate at Bowridge Hall, Gillingham Parish, Dorchestershire, England.

He was the son of Richard Greene and Mary Hooker.

He moved to Sarum, Wiltshire where he had found work.

John married Joanna Tattershall on 4 November 1619 at the church of St. Thomas, Salisbury, Wiltshire, England.

On 6 April 1635, John & his wife, Joanna,left from Hampton aboard the ship, "James", mastered by William Cooper, bound for New England. Listed among the passengers were John Greene, his wife & six chilldren.

  1. John Greene+ b. b 15 Aug 1620, d. 27 Nov 1708
  2. Peter Greene b. b 10 Mar 1622, d. 10 Dec 1677
  3. Richard Greene b. b 25 Mar 1625
  4. James Greene b. b 21 Jun 1626, d. 27 Apr 1698
  5. Thomas Greene b. b 4 Jun 1628, d. 5 Jun 1717
  6. Joanna Greene b. b 3 Oct 1630
  7. Mary Greene b. b 19 May 1633, d. 6 Nov 1686

After a voyage of fifty-eight days, they arrived at Boston the 3rd of June.. The family settled at Salem where John built a home for them and where he became associated with Roger Williams. However, when Williams was forced to take flight to Rhode Island in 1636, John sold his house and went to Rhode Island settling in Providence and was then assigned a home lot there by Mr. Williams.

There in Rhode Island, he was a respected surgeon, so much so, that many of the inhabitants of Providence went to him even after he had moved to Warwick, which move was done in 1642.

John's wife, Joanna, died in 1642 in Conimicut, Kent County, Rhode Island, at age 45 years, leaving him a widower.

John married 2nd Ailsce (?) in 1643 at Providence, Providence County, Rhode Island. She was first married to a Mr. Daniels. John and Ailsce had no children.

In October of 1643, Boston officials sent 40 men on horses to Rhode Island to arrest the people in the new settlement. On their arrival, they fired round of shots over the houses. The women and children were frightened and fled into the woods to hide. Many of them parished there from exposure and fright.

John's wife, Ailsce, died circa October 1643 in Warwick, Kent County, Rhode Island, leaving him a widower. She was one of the women who fled from the attach and did not survive; , after having fled from the attachers from Boston. Shortly after the death of his wife Ailsce, John went to London. It is not known why he made the move; only that he was there until sometime in 1646.

John married 3rd Phillippa (?) in 1646 at London, county Middlesex, England. Soon after the marriage the couple returned to Rhode Island and to the settlement at Warwick. John and Phillippa had no children.

John made his will on 28 December 1658 at Warwick, Kent County, Rhode Island.

In it he gave to his "beloved wife Philipa Greene yt part of buildinge, being all new erected and containing A large hall and Chimni with a little chamber joining to the hall as also a large chamber with a little chamber within yt, with a large garret with a Little daffy room which buttes against ye oule house, to enioy deuring her life; allso I give unto her half ye orchard; allso I give unto her my Lott adjoining to ye orchard together with ye swamp which the Towne granted me."

After some other bequests to his wife, he gave to his son John the neck of land called Occupasnetuxet, with an adjoining meadow and a small island, all of which he says he bought of Miantonomi. To his other children he bequeathed other tracts of land including his portion of the Warwick purchase, and appointed his wife sole executrix of the will. Witnessed by John Wickes and Anthony Low.

John departed this life at Warwick, Kent County, Rhode Island. John was laid to rest in Warwick, Kent County, Rhode Island.9 His will was probated on 7 January 1659.



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On 24 Mar 2017 at 21:01 GMT Robin Lee wrote:

Greene-5001 and Greene-43 appear to represent the same person because: same/similar dates, same wife and other information

On 24 Jun 2015 at 15:31 GMT Marj Adams wrote:

Greene-43 and Greene-3407 appear to represent the same person because: info matches

On 18 Oct 2014 at 19:53 GMT Sandy Culver wrote:

Greene-2582 and Greene-43 appear to represent the same person because: data close, both Bios review him as surgeon....spouse, offspring need review, now set as un-merged matches pending this merge.

On 3 Sep 2014 at 04:40 GMT Bob Fields wrote:

Greene-2506 and Greene-43 appear to represent the same person because: Same birth/death dates and locations, same son John. Thanks.

On 30 May 2013 at 17:01 GMT Jillaine Smith wrote:

I've detached Anne Scargell as well as her son Thomas of Malden.

On 30 May 2013 at 16:55 GMT Jillaine Smith wrote:

(Reposting for Rick P without the long URL)

I found the information you list in "Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England, 1620-33". Surgeon John Greene did not arrive until 1635. See "Greenes of Rhode Island" 1903, pages 52-58, for a description of Surgeon John Greene's life. www.archive.org/stream/greenesofrhodeis00gree

I think any information from the John Greene in GMB (812-814) should be removed from this profile.

On 29 May 2013 at 22:09 GMT Rick Pierpont wrote:

There are many people named John Greene. A Google search says that Anne Scargell is the wife of the John Green born in 1585, but I am not sure I believe that either. The Surgeon John Greene was married three times, but none were named Scargell. He only had children with Joanne Tattershall.

On 29 May 2013 at 21:27 GMT Jillaine Smith wrote:

Okay, I've detached Perserverance Johnson and her children from John Greene of Warwick, RI. I'll leave RI-John Greene to you all. But it looks like what's in the narrative does not match the marriages you've got up top-- who was Anne Scargell?

On 29 May 2013 at 19:22 GMT Jillaine Smith wrote:

Rick, thanks for the response. Bob F reminded me of this page. I'll start working on this tonight, I hope.

On 14 May 2013 at 03:53 GMT Jillaine Smith wrote:

I think we have merged two different John Green(e)s here. Per Great Migration Begins (pp 812-814), the John Greene b abt 1593, d 22 Apr 1658 Charlestown, MA [not Warwick RI] m1 Perserverance (possibly Johnson); m2 Joanna (Taylor) (Tuttle) Shatswell, widor of Richard Tuttle and John Shatswell. No Ann Scargeel, no Joanne Tattershall.

Children per GMB: 1) John b abt 1620; will implies he died single; removed to Stow. 2) Jacob b abt 1623; m by 1654 Elizabeth; remained in Charlestown? 3) Abigail, sailed for NE in 1632; NFR 4) (prob) Joseph, sailed for New England in 1632; NFR 5) Mary, b Charlestown 1 Apr 1634; m by 1658 Thomas Stevens.



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