Steven Greenwood
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Steven Greenwood

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Signed 23 Jul 2020 | 5060 contributions | 603 thank-yous | 423 connections
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Looking to find missing links to some end points in my tree. I thank my paternal grandmother Dolores for doing a lot of the work on our family tree over the last two decades. I feel it is my responsibility to continue this journey.
Steven M. Greenwood
Born 1980s.
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Son of [private father (1950s - unknown)] and [private mother (1960s - unknown)]
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Steven Greenwood is an editor of this wiki site (Greenwood-3667).

From 26 Jan -July 2022, he was the Team Leader of Lower Saxony Team within Germany Project (it has since been restructured).

Greenwood has also worked on other wikis including:

He believes he has a thorough understanding of wiki markup.

Greenwood currently resides in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, and has been making occasional trips to Sauk County, Wisconsin for some first-hand research.

He had 376 connections with 7 degrees as of 30 Jul 2022, 390 as of 16 Aug 2022, 405 as of 26 Aug 2022, 423 as of 13 Sep 2022. His degrees to QEII decreased by one after making a new connection to the tree through the Pope surname.

Genealogical Interests

Steven Greenwood is a member of the Germany Project.
Steven Greenwood has German Roots.
Steven Greenwood has roots in the region now known as Niedersachsen, Germany.
Steven Greenwood has roots in the region now known as Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany.
Steven Greenwood is a member of the Klitzke Name Study Project.
Steven Greenwood is a member of the Ripke Name Study Project.
Steven was featured in a Meet Our Members Post on the G2G Forum!
Steven Greenwood participated with Germany Genies during the 2021 Source-a-Thon, adding 30 sources to profiles.
Steven Greenwood participated with Germany Genies during the 2022 Source-a-Thon, adding x sources to profiles.
Steven Greenwood participated with Germany Genies during the 2022 Connect-a-Thon, and added 36 connections.

The Genies placed 16th out of 30 teams with 1725 connections and had a normalized score of 157.
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WikiTree Day Attendee: 2022
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To-Do List

His research is predominately focused on his pedigree. The paternal surnames include GREENWOOD, RIBBKE/RIPKE, WIATROK/WIATRICK, SCHIEFELBEIN, MITTLESTADT/MITTELSTEADT/MITTELSTAEDT, KROLL, POST, STOLTE, SCHULZ, GAUSE, MAAHS/MAAS/MAAß, PERLEBERG, MÜLLER, OETZMANN, GLEASH, and KLITZKE. The maternal surnames include SPROLL/SPRAUL/SPROUL, SAUER, and HUBER (clearly more underdeveloped).

The families of paternal origin largely started in Landkreis Uelzen, Hanover, Prussia (now Lower Saxony, Germany) and Pomerania/Posen, Prussia. Both groups emigrated to America and ended up in Sauk County, Wisconsin in the United States, an area apparently with a similar farming capability to that of the Luneberger Heide or the Central European Plain (See projects). His maternal ancestors appear to be confined to southern Germany (Rheinland-Pfalz/Baden-Württemberg) and stayed in Germany until the last generation.

In addition, he is interested in the distribution of KELSNER around the world. Per Forebears, the surname only appears in Germany (100% in North-Rhine Westphalia) and the United States. Overall it appears as a ratio of 1:331,233,388 people (effectively the population of the United States in 2010).[1]

Recent knowledge from Y-DNA results in late 2021 are pointing to a strong paternal origin of Scotland through the father of Leo Greenwood. If said father was an Armstrong, it would be consistent with that of Clan Armstrong's placement overseas. The results state a Haplogroup of R-M269, consistent with Armstrong research, and one match is of the Glasgow surname, which incidentally leads to Glasgow, Scotland through Northern Ireland.

Greenwood is concerned that mental illness in his family lineages plays a big part in his own experiences. There may be an attempt to understand the conditions his ancestors faced and the troubles they endured in their lives. If anything, it would be in the hopes to generate more awareness of mental health in America and end the stigma.


Greenwood has to acknowledge the previous research already performed by Donna Lange (Sauk County and Germany specialist who may have been responsible for much of the ground truth regarding his ancestry and adjacent families to his own that emigrated to America), Eberhard Behnke and Heinrich Porth (German genealogists of the Uelzen area), Heather Abrahamson (genealogist with a strong focus on the families of Sauk County), Kathy Waddell (transcriber of many cemeteries in Sauk County to, the late Oscar Sandstrom (gravestone photographer who documented many sites in Sauk County to Find A Grave), and his first cousin twice removed Kathy Janzen nee Ribbke.

WikiTree genealogist (and WikiTreer of the Week for Feb 1-7, 2021) Dieter Lewerenz has been incredibly helpful in regards to translating documents and acquiring information from the area of Landkreis Uelzen, Niedersachsen (more below). Oliver Stegen has also been integral to unlocking the structure of the Gause family of Bienenbüttel, through his access of long out of print books, and was able to break my first brick wall!

My Surnames in 2020

Click on Surname to view EKA - Earliest Known Ancestor
Brüggemann, Burmester
Gause, Gleash , Grasmeyer , Greenwood
Klitzke, Kroll
LeMonte (Sproll)
Maahs (Eickhoff) , Maaß , Mennerich , Meyer , Mittelsteadt , Müller
Perau, Perleberg , Post
Ribbke (Ripke) , Riggert
Sauer, Schiefelbein , Schröder , Schulz , Schulz , Schütte , Stolte
Warfer, Wiatrok

Surnames After Gause Brick Wall Broken (30 Mar 2021)

Click on Surname to view EKA - Earliest Known Ancestor
Behn (Behne) , Brüggemann , Burmester
Gause, Gleash , Grasmeyer , Greenwood
Klitzke, Koosen , Kroll
LeMonte (Sproll)
Maahs (Eickhoff) , Maaß , Mennerich , Meyer , Meyer , Meyer , Mittelsteadt , Müller , Müller , Müller
Perau, Perleberg , Post
Ribbke (Ripke) , Riggert
Sander, Sauer , Schiefelbein , Schröder , Schröder , Schulz , Schulz , Schütte , Stolte
Warfer, Wiatrok

Surnames as of 17 Jul 2021

Click on Surname to view EKA - Earliest Known Ancestor
Bausche, Behn , Brüggemann , Burmeister , Burmester
Gause, Gleash , Grasmeyer , Greenwood
Hahn, Harms , Hartig , Huber
Klitzke, Koosen , Kroll
LeMonte (Sproll)
Maahs (Eickhoff) , Maaß , Mennerich , Meyer , Meyer , Mittelsteadt , Müller , Müller , Müller
Perau, Perleberg , Post
Ribbke (Ripke) , Riggert
Sander, Sander , Sauer , Schiefelbein , Schröder , Schulz , Schulz , Schütte , Stegen , Stolte
Tiedemann (Tiemann)
Warfer, Wiatrok

Surnames as of 2 Mar 2022

Click on Surname to view EKA - Earliest Known Ancestor
Paternal Grandfather , Paternal Grandmother vs Maternal Grandfather , Maternal Grandmother ancestors
Bausche, Behn , Betke , Bock , Brüggemann , Buchholz , Burmeister , Burmester , Bülow , Bünstorff
Carstens, Clement
Dreyer, Dreyer
Gade, Gause , Gleash , Grasmeyer , Greenwood
Hagelberg, Hahn , Hallensleben , Harms , Hartig , Hilmer , Huber
Klinge, Klitzke , Koch , Koosen , Kroll
LeMonte (Sproll) , Linde , Lübbe
Maahs (Eickhoff) , Maaß , Meier , Mennerich , Meyer , Meyer , Meyer , Meyer , Meyer , Meyer , Meyer , Mittelstaedt , Müller , Müller , Müller
Niebuhr, Niemann
Oetzmann (Ötzmann)
Perau, Perleberg , Post
Raedel (Rädel) , Rebek , Ribbke , Riekmann , Riggert
Sander, Sander , Sauer , Schiefelbein , Schlickau , Schmeer , Schröder , Schröder , Schulz , Schulz , Schütte , Stegen , Steinhauer , Stolte
Teldau, Tiedemann
Warfer, Wiatrok

Surname meanings

  • Behn/Behne = 1) An unusual name of Low German and Flemish origin, one of the diminutive forms of the medieval male personal name "Benedict", adopted from the Latin "Benedictus", "Blessed". 2) from a short form of the personal name Bernhard. in some cases, perhaps a variant of Bein, from Middle Low German ben ‘bone’, ‘leg’.[2]
  • Burmester/Burmeister = Derived from the German words bur or bauer, meaning "farmer," and meister, meaning "master;" thus, the name literally means "master farmer." Alternatively, the Low German term Burmester refers to the town elder who held a position just below that of the mayor.
  • Eickhoff = from Middle Low German eke + hof 'farmstead', 'manor farm'. Topographic name from Westphalia for someone who lived at or owned a farm or estate that was marked by oaks.
  • Friedrichs = Patronymic name from Friedrich,[2] derived from the root frid meaning "peace" and ric meaning "ruler" or "power".
  • Gause = Of geese or like a goose.
  • Horstmann = "Man of the wood".
  • Huber = Derives from the German word hube meaning "hide", a unit of land a farmer might possess, granting them the status of a free tenant. It is in the top ten most common surnames in the German-speaking world.
  • Klitzke = "Klitz" from Old Germanic klotz meaning "awkward, clumsy" + ke = son of = son of awkward or clumsy one.
  • Kroll = from Middle High German krol = "curly hair".
  • Maas = Dutch and North German patronymic name, archaic short form of Thomas and possibly a toponymic name from the river Maas (Meuse)
  • Maahs = Americanization of Maas, highest concentration in Wisconsin.
  • Mennerich - Unknown, the highest concentration in Niedersachsen.
  • Mittelstadt/stedt/staedt = Habitational name of Mittelstädts or Mittelstedts in Bavaria or Baden-Württemberg, effectively "Middle town".
  • Müller = also Mueller, Muller, an occupational name for "miller", one who works at a mill, the most common surname in Germany, Switzerland, and some French départements.
  • Oetzman - Unknown. Either original to Germany or an Americanization from Oetzmann. There is a large population of Oetzmans in Sauk County, Wisconsin.
  • Oetzmann - Unknown, the highest concentration in Germany, in America it is Minnesota
  • Perau = Possible variation of Anglo-Saxon Pereau which comes from Peter.
  • Ribbke = Americanization of Ripke, unique to Central Wisconsin though family members have since spread out.
  • Richers = Derived from the name Richard, which is composed of the elements ric, meaning "power", and hard, meaning "hardy" or "brave".
  • Riggers = 1) North German: Frisian patronymic, a variant of Ricker.[2] 2) Derived from the Middle High German words reigel or reiger, both meaning "heron".
  • Riggert = Derived from the name Richard, which is composed of the elements ric, meaning "power", and hard, meaning "hardy" or "brave".
  • Ripke = Germanized form of Slavic Ripka ‘fish’ (see Czech ryba). from a pet form of the personal name Riepe, Ribbe or Rippert, a compound of ric ‘power(ful)’ + berht ‘bright’, ‘famous’.[2]
  • Sander = patronymic name, meaning son of Alexander. The name derives from the abbreviation xander, with Alexander deriving from the Greek "Ἀλέξανδρος" (Aléxandros), meaning "Defender of the people".
  • Sauer = from Middle High German sur = sour", nickname for an embittered or cantankerous person.
  • Schiefelbein = Habitational name of Schievelbein, Pomerania.
  • Schulz = Occupational name for a person of authority such as sheriff, magistrate, overseer, from the Middle High German schulteize = the person in charge of collecting payments on behalf of the lord of the manor.
  • Steinhorst = "Rock wood".
  • Stolte = from Middle Low German stolt = "proud", magnificent".
  • Tiedemann = "Man of the people".
  • Wiatrok/Wiatrick/Waitrok - Unknown, Polish in origin.
  • Zimmer = "Room".
  • Zimmermann = "Man of the room", effectively "carpenter".

Ancestor Table

"I've seen this a few times (i.e. Robinson-27225, Langholf-2), and I wanted to recreate one of my own."

There are 2046 total possible ancestors within 10 generations without pedigree collapse. Changes are before and after March 2021 Gause Brick Wall Breakthrough.

Ancestor # of Possible Ancestors # of Identified Ancestors  % of Identified Ancestors # Id'd 2022  % Id'd 2022 Birth Year
Parents 2 2 100% 2 100% 1951-1962
Grandparents 4 3 75% 3 75% 1927-1944
Great-grandparents 8 6 75% 6 75% 1900-1907
2nd great-grandparents 16 8 50% 8 50% 1868-1892
3rd great-grandparents 32 12 -->14 37.5% --> 43.75% 14 43.75% 1838-1859
4th great-grandparents 64 9 -->13 14.1% --> 20.31% 16 25% 1798-1820
5th great-grandparents 128 6 -->10 4.68% --> 7.81% 18 14.06% 1769-1810
6th great-grandparents 256 8 3.12% 12 4.68%
7th great-grandparents 512 8 1.56% 16 3.12%
8th great-grandparents 1024 13 1.27%

Cousins on WikiTree

Greenwood is related to the following Wiki Genealogists:

mtDNA results imply a relationship to Declan Thornton (genetic distance 2) and a 1:1 GEDmatch comparison shows a shared segment 7.1 cM on Chr 9. 594 SNPs. 70.038 Pct SNPs are full identical. Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 7.1cM (0.197 Pct). Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 7.5 (approximately a seventh cousin).

mtDNA results imply a relationship to Cindy Cotton (genetic distance 2) however there does not appear to be any considerable shared DNA through a 1:1 GEDmatch comparison.

Y-DNA results and theory to the paternal family of Leo Lane Greenwood led to a possible match with two people via Francis Armstrong Jr (abt 1695 - 1783) though distant:

  • Susan Harding (later Reeves): 1:1 GEDmatch comparison shows 3 shared segments when reducing threshold to 3 cM, including largest segment = 4.5 cM. Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 11.5cM (0.32 Pct). 51.466 Pct of 199716 SNPs used for this comparison are fully identical.
  • Kenneth Harding: 1:1 GEDmatch comparison shows 2 shared segments when reducing threshold to 3 cM, including largest segment = 5.2 cM. Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 8.2cM (0.229 Pct). 51.589 Pct of 199319 SNPs used for this comparison are fully identical.

Another person with a close connection via a One-to-Many DNA comparison is Scott Luther Byrd, showing 4 shared segments, including largest segment = 22.8 cM. Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 64.4cM (1.795 Pct). Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 3.9. 51.239 Pct of 200997 SNPs are fully identical.

Fellow Uelzen project member Dieter Lewerenz does not immediately appear to be a cousin, but who knows given future connections.

Friends, family, and colleagues

He has convinced a few people he knows to join WikiTree. Most tend to have German and Polish roots and a majority are the first representing their surnames:

His friend Beard-5746 had also joined in December 2020 but it is unclear if it was inspired by Greenwood.

DNA confirmation

  • Relationship is confirmed by a GEDmatch test match between Greenwood-3667 XX4022213 and his grandmother Ribbke-1 AM2970285. Largest segment: 132.6 cM. Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 1.4, based on sharing 1925.3 cM (53.682 Pct) across 35 half-match segments.
  • GEDmatch test match between Greenwood-3667 XX4022213 and Lyon-6103 AG7740033. Largest segment = 38.3 cM. Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 3.9, based on sharing 64.3cM (1.794 Pct) across 3 half-match segments.
  • GEDmatch test match between Greenwood-3667 XX4022213 and Stegen-15 JR2069839X when reducing cM threshold to 3 cM. Largest segment: 5.3 cM and 67.859% of the 474239 SNPs are full identical. It determined that we have 12 shared segments and 47.6cM (1.326 Pct) of Total Half-Match segments (HIR). I would estimate the generations to MRCA to around 10-12.


Important links and spaces

Current Projects

Greenwood has a project for Sauk County, Wisconsin, the location where many of his ancestors lived. In June-July 2021, he visited the county to obtain research materials and photographed headstones across five cemeteries:

He is in the process of splitting up the Sauk County page into different villages and townships as he acquires more information.

He also started one for Landkreis Uelzen, Niedersachsen, where many of his ancestors originated, now that a majority of the place name categories for that Landkreis have been created. The concern on WikiTree, however, is that there may be some misunderstanding about the naming of the categories, as categories representing collective municipalities have been shifted to those of either towns or villages, Bevensen in particular.

"Historically, the collective municipalities were larger than the individual municipalities and within those individual municipalities were the villages themselves. This nesting should really be represented within the category structure, from Kreis to collective to individual municipality to village, for example: Niedersachsen [German state] --> Kreis Uelzen [county equivalent] --> Bevensen (or now Bevensen-Ebstorf) [collective municipality] --> Bad Bevensen [municipality] --> Gollern [village]. Those profiles that are unclear on exact village should go in the higher tier of category. The project hopes to clear up this confusion and/or inconsistency. In the near future we hope to address the historical changes of this area and create the appropriate categorical structure for that."

Because of his work on this Landkreis, he was chosen to lead the Lower Saxony Team.

A third project is German inventors and discoverers, a space to corral famous German scientists and discoverers with Wikipedia articles into the WikiTree.

Other projects and peoples

Greenwood created the page for Wisconsin scrap sculptor legend Dr. Evermor on 12 Aug 2020 and wrote its biography.

On 17 Sep 2020, Greenwood came across the mysterious German performance artist "Thea Alba", who supposedly could write with all ten fingers at once, with not much background information on her. Yet he figured out who Thea Alba was thanks to a book published in July 2020 on the descendants of Martin Luther.

In December 2020, Greenwood focused on building and formatting profiles of geologists and collectors, such as Thomas A. Greene and Fisk Holbrook Day, and profiles of those involved with the Star Wars franchise, to the extent of creating categorization for it. At that time he hoped to have both geologists and Star Wars actors as upcoming weekly themes and connections, the latter did occur (see below).

January and February 2021, he took on additional tasks of assisting personal friends and colleagues with their trees and history (see Friends, family, and colleagues).

He took over Namesakes of United States Counties on 20 Feb 2021 in the hopes to reactivate and complete that project.

For May the Fourth 2021 Connections, Greenwood helped recommend and expand some of the Star Wars profiles he had worked on, including Grant Imahara, Peter Mayhew and Christopher Lee.

Later May 2021, Greenwood was tasked with helping build Team Prussia on WikiTree, and created the page for Posen, Prussia Team.

From July-August 2021, he transcribed names from A County Named Sauk to assist with Sauk County research.

In October 2021, he participated in his first Source-a-Thon where he sourced 30 profiles. In January 2022, he participated in his first Connect-a-Thon where he tied for 366th place out of 660 participants with 36 points and his first WikiTree Challenge (for Jimmy D. Wales, founder of Wikipedia). In Jimmy's Challenge, he contributed over 80 edits, created profiles for four direct ancestors (Prander-1 which became Normann-61, Levenicht-3, Both-225 and Both-226), one first relative (Levenicht-20), and four additional relatives (Hargrove-1337, Pralow-15, Thielman-38, Lorenzen-412), and claimed ten bounty points for a total of 28 points! Additionally some other non-connected profiles were made in affiliation with the project (Penny-2634, Normann-73, Kimpel-177, Kimpel-178, and Kimpel-179, and Nerdenholtz-1 and Nerdenholtz-2).

January 2022 was also the month where he was (finally!) approved for a One Name Study of the Klitzke family.

From 31 Jan to 7 Feb 2022, Greenwood was featured as the WikiTree Member of the Week.

He participated in a Cemetery Connectors Challenge, having created 11 profiles (22nd out of 55 contributors), though unfortunately was not able to connect them to the tree during the challenge.

The death of Ghostbusters and Ghostbusters II director Ivan Reitman OC on 12 Feb 2022 led to a push to have his profile featured on the Main Page, in addition to either other directors and/or producers, or people associated with the Ghostbusters franchise (maybe for Ghostbusters Day on June 8?).

His second WikiTree Challenge to participate in was for Adrienne Wilkinson (Challenge 4: 17 Feb-24 Feb 2022) where he scored 12 points for creating that many nuclear relative profiles, including Kreyling-14, Kreyling-15 and the wife (Bitner-449) and children of Rhodes-4766.

On 4 Mar 2022, the 17th birthday of Wookieepedia, Greenwood started .. something not Star Wars-related: a sequel to the Namesakes Project, Namesakes of Municipalities.

On 16 Mar 2022, he built a biography for wrestler Scott Hall after the profile was opened up. On 24 Mar 2022, he created the profile for computer scientist Stephen Wilhite, the creator of the GIF, and on 26 Mar 2022, he created the profile for Foo Fighters drummer Oliver Hawkins and connected him to the world tree.

1 Apr 2022 was the day that the 1950 United States Census was released to the public both for research and for transcribing, to which Greenwood performed both tasks as part of the The WikiTree 1950 Census Indexers Group. You can help transcribe the census here once you search for a county and district.

By 27 Apr 2022, the Ripke Name Study was first available and edited.

On 18 May 2022, he created a profile for living science communicator Bill Nye in preparation for WikiTree's science week. Profile privacy needs to be overridden by Notables Project to be viewable.

For Ghostbusters Week (week of 8 Jun 2022), Greenwood provided the majority of the list of featured connections, with Ivan Reitman being the main focus.

In early August 2022, he helped set up a document for the WikiTree Day Scavenger Hunt.

On 15 Aug 2022, he created the profile for Wisconsin business owner Ralph Charles Ehlenbach and added to his local German branches.

Wales-654 Surnames

Click on Surname to view EKA - Earliest Known Ancestor
Paternal Grandfather , Paternal Grandmother vs Maternal Grandfather , Maternal Grandmother ancestors
Adams, Alderdice , Ashbey
Baker, Ballamy , Barrett , Bassett , Baugher , Bayly , Both , Brock , Browne , Bunch
Ching, Claiborne , Clem , Coleman , Colestone , Collins , Cooper , Corbell , Cornish , Crockett
Dodson (Dotson) , Dudley , Dyer
Eason, East , Eaves , Edis , Eldridge
Franck (Francke)
Garrigus (Garrigues) , Graham , Graviet
Ham, Harefoot , Hexx , Hilliard , Hodge , Holland , Holt
Jager (Jaeger) , Jones
Krabben, Krocker
Ledbetter, Leggett , Lewenicht , Lile , Lorenz , Lotz
Mark, Marshall , Matlock , May , McCan , McCarly , McClain , McEwen , McKissick , Meadows , Merryman , Miller
Norrmann (Normann)
Pearce (Peerce) , Pearne , Peters
Ramsey, Robinson
Sanders, Schmeling , Schmidt , Schmidt , Schröder , Schwab , Shearman , Shearman , Sibert , Simmons , Spiers
Thurston, Treweeks , Turner
Wales, Williams , Williams , Woodlief

Wilkinson work

Surname (alternate spellings) : First Person with surname in tree → EKA - Earliest Known Ancestor
( # ) = number of generations from Primary person to EKA
pedigree.gif 𐂷 = pedigree chart of First Person / descendant-link.gif ⇟ = descendant list of EKA
Ackerman (Ackermann)  : Susanna, b. 1741, Dortmund, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany pedigree.gif 𐂷Georg Ackermann, b. 1631, Noeritz, Chemnitz, Saxony, Germany descendant-link.gif (12)
Anonymous (Cartwright)  : Private , b. 1741, Dortmund, Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany pedigree.gif 𐂷Cyrus Cartwright, b. 1750, Colony of Connecticut, British Colonial America descendant-link.gif (8)
Benson  : Mary, b. 1852, Missouri, United States pedigree.gif 𐂷 descendant-link.gif (6)
Blackwell  : Sarah, b. 1790, Wilmington, Fluvanna, Virginia, United States pedigree.gif 𐂷 descendant-link.gif (7)
Boyer  : Eva, b. 0000, pedigree.gif 𐂷 descendant-link.gif (10)
Breunig (Breun)  : Maria, b. 1710, Bad Rappenau, Heidelberg, Baden, Germany pedigree.gif 𐂷Hans Breun, b. 1625, Leipzig, Sachsen, Deutschland descendant-link.gif (12)
Brown  : Mary, b. 1832, Pennsylvania, United States pedigree.gif 𐂷 descendant-link.gif (6)
Bryson  : Mary, b. 1865, Leasburg, Crawford, Missouri, USA pedigree.gif 𐂷James Bryson, b. 1804, South Carolina, USA descendant-link.gif (6)
Buckwalter  : Anlea, b. 1725, Lampeter, Lancaster, Pennsylvania pedigree.gif 𐂷Jacob Buckwalter, b. 1635, Bern, Switzerland descendant-link.gif (13)
Bullock  : Susan, b. 1830, Warren County, Tennessee pedigree.gif 𐂷Oliver Bullock, b. 1793, Granville, North Carolina, United States descendant-link.gif (7)
Carnes  : Eliza, b. 1822, Georgia, USA pedigree.gif 𐂷Joseph Carnes, b. 1753, Frederick, Frederick, Maryland descendant-link.gif (8)
Carson  : Elizabeth, b. 1763, pedigree.gif 𐂷Robert Carson, b. 1540, County Down, Ireland descendant-link.gif (15)
Cash  : Comfort, b. 1753, Fairfax County Virginia pedigree.gif 𐂷William Cash, b. 1610, Fife, Scotland descendant-link.gif (12)
Child (Childress)  : Mary, b. 1705, Baltimore, Baltimore, Maryland pedigree.gif 𐂷Abraham Childress, b. 1650, Amersham, Buckinghamshire, England descendant-link.gif (11)
Cornman  : Della, b. 1895, Missouri, United States pedigree.gif 𐂷James Cornman, b. 1873, descendant-link.gif (5)
Dickey  : Sarah, b. 1682, Armagh, Armagh, Ireland pedigree.gif 𐂷Moses Dickey, b. 1660, Antrim, Antrim, Ireland descendant-link.gif (11)
Dill  : Mary, b. 1728, Dillsburg, York Co., Pennsylvania pedigree.gif 𐂷David Dill, b. 1605, Scotland descendant-link.gif (13)
Dollar  : Percilla, b. 1852, Virginia, United States pedigree.gif 𐂷William Dollar, b. 1807, North Carolina descendant-link.gif (6)
Dotson  : Minnie, b. 1882, Crawford County, Missouri, United States pedigree.gif 𐂷David Dotson, b. 1806, Indiana, United States descendant-link.gif (6)
Douthitt (Douthit)  : Mary, b. 1743, Maryland pedigree.gif 𐂷Andrew Douthit, b. 1657, Aberdeenshire, Scotland descendant-link.gif (12)
Eaton (Eyton)  : Louisa, b. 1854, Crawford, Missouri, United States pedigree.gif 𐂷William Eyton, b. 1590, Rowington Green, Warwickshire, England descendant-link.gif (14)
Edey  : Sarah, b. 1705, pedigree.gif 𐂷 descendant-link.gif (10)
Enochson  : Hannah, b. 1698, Nishamenni Creek, Bucks County, Pennsylvania pedigree.gif 𐂷Garret Enochson, b. 1635, Holland descendant-link.gif (12)
Eschmann  : Maria, b. 1710, Oley, Oley Township, Berks, Pennsylvania, British Colonial America pedigree.gif 𐂷Abraham Eschmann, b. 1665, null descendant-link.gif (12)
Eydt  : Anna, b. 1696, Langensoultzbach, Bas-Rhin, Alsace, France pedigree.gif 𐂷Johannes Jacobus Eydt, b. 1655, descendant-link.gif (11)
Fisher  : Electa, b. 1819, Perry, Tennessee, United States pedigree.gif 𐂷 descendant-link.gif (7)
Fisher  : Lucinda, b. 1846, Decatur, Tennessee, United States pedigree.gif 𐂷Charles Fisher, b. 1818, Tennessee, United States descendant-link.gif (7)
Freeley  : Mary, b. 1716, Nockamixon Township, Bucks, Pennsylvania pedigree.gif 𐂷Andreas Freeley, b. 1700, null descendant-link.gif (11)
Freely  : Mary, b. 1747, Nockamixon Township, Bucks, Province of Pennsylvania pedigree.gif 𐂷Andreas Freely, b. 1700, null descendant-link.gif (10)
Gammelgaard  : Dorothea Marie, b. 1842, Toftlund, Nørre Rangstrup, Haderslev, Danmark pedigree.gif 𐂷Jørgen Gammelgaard, b. 1776, descendant-link.gif (8)
Good  : Eve, b. 1752, null pedigree.gif 𐂷Peter Good, b. 1690, null descendant-link.gif (11)
Gormley  : Elsie, b. 1907, Vilander, Crawford, Missouri, United States pedigree.gif 𐂷Thomas Gormley, b. 1745, Ireland descendant-link.gif (9)
Grabiel (Krehbiel, Krahenbuhl)  : Eve, b. 1708, Eggiwil, Bern, Switzerland pedigree.gif 𐂷Christian Krahenbuhl, b. 1630, Gross-Hochstetten,Canton-Bern,,Switzerland descendant-link.gif (13)
Groff  : Elizabeth, b. 1750, pedigree.gif 𐂷Hans Groff, b. 1695, descendant-link.gif (11)
Hall  : Elizabeth, b. 1751, Rowan County, North Carolina Colony pedigree.gif 𐂷Samuel Hall, b. 1720, descendant-link.gif (10)
Hamilton  : Mary, b. 1698, Ulster, Monaghan, Ireland pedigree.gif 𐂷 descendant-link.gif (10)
Hammond  : Sarah, b. 1789, Washington, Pennsylvania, United States pedigree.gif 𐂷Unknown Hammond, b. 1760, descendant-link.gif (9)
Harmon (Harman, Hermann)  : Sophie, b. 1825, Pendleton, Virginia, United States pedigree.gif 𐂷Jakob Hermann, b. 1515, Stuttgart, Stuttgart, Baden-Württemberg, Germany descendant-link.gif (16)
Henkle (Henckle, Henckel)  : Christina, b. 1763, Hampshire Co Virginia, America pedigree.gif 𐂷Petrius Henckel, b. 1378, null descendant-link.gif (20)
Hoover  : Anna, b. 1771, Pennsylvania pedigree.gif 𐂷 descendant-link.gif (8)
Howard  : Mary, b. 1769, Surry, North Carolina, Colonial America pedigree.gif 𐂷Phillip Howard, b. 1704, Anne Arundel, Maryland descendant-link.gif (10)
Johnson  : Jemima, b. 1750, King William, Virginia pedigree.gif 𐂷 descendant-link.gif (9)
Jones (Nilsson, Unknown)  : Rebecca, b. 1750, Amity Township, Berks, Colony of Pennsylvania, British Colonial America pedigree.gif 𐂷Nils Unknown, b. 1590, O Bränna, Grelsbyn, Skanings Hundred, Skaraborg, Norrb Sweden descendant-link.gif (13)
Jones  : Sarah, b. 1847, null pedigree.gif 𐂷 descendant-link.gif (6)
Kjems  : Ane Marie, b. 1808, pedigree.gif 𐂷 descendant-link.gif (7)
Knight (Knecht)  : Mary Christina, b. 1702, Germany pedigree.gif 𐂷Hans Philipp Knecht, b. 1644, Lampertheim, Starkenburg-Hessen, Germany descendant-link.gif (12)
Kreider (Greiter, Kraeuter Greiter)  : Mary, b. 1807, Pennsylvania, United States pedigree.gif 𐂷Hans Martin Kraeuter Greiter, b. 1646, Canton, Zurich, Switzerland descendant-link.gif (12)
Kreyling  : Antonia, b. 1873, St. Louis, Missouri, United States pedigree.gif 𐂷David Kreyling, b. 1836, Baden-Württemberg, Germany descendant-link.gif (6)
Kruse  : Dorthea, b. 1899, Bourbon, Crawford, Missouri, United States pedigree.gif 𐂷Hans Kruse, b. 1835, Nustrup, Gram, Haderslev, Danmark descendant-link.gif (6)
Kullmer  : Augusta, b. 1836, Baden-Württemberg, Germany pedigree.gif 𐂷 descendant-link.gif (6)
Lanius  : Eliza, b. 1827, Crawford County, Missouri, USA pedigree.gif 𐂷 descendant-link.gif (6)
Lester  : Nancy, b. 1839, Lawrence, Kentucky, USA pedigree.gif 𐂷 descendant-link.gif (6)
Liles  : Rebecca, b. 1803, Franklin, North Carolina, United States pedigree.gif 𐂷 descendant-link.gif (7)
Lovering  : Elizabeth, b. 0000, pedigree.gif 𐂷 descendant-link.gif (10)
Luttmann  : Maria, b. 1701, Schwaigern, Heilbronn, Baden-Württemberg, Germany pedigree.gif 𐂷Andreas Luttmann, b. 1635, Landreich, Tyrol, Austria descendant-link.gif (12)
Lyons (Lyon)  : Marinda, b. 1862, Kentucky, United States pedigree.gif 𐂷Jesse Lyon, b. 1836, Blaine, Lawrence County, Kentucky descendant-link.gif (6)
Mc Alister (McAllister)  : Hannah, b. 1784, New Jersey, United States pedigree.gif 𐂷Archibald McAllister, b. 1700, Scotland descendant-link.gif (10)
McClure  : Jean, b. 1698, Scotland pedigree.gif 𐂷Matthew McClure, b. 1676, Scotland descendant-link.gif (11)
Nisdatter (Nielsen)  : Mette, b. 1778, Fole, Fole, Frøs, Haderslev, Danmark pedigree.gif 𐂷Nis Nielsen, b. 1744, descendant-link.gif (9)
Norton  : Jemima, b. 1815, Tennessee, United States pedigree.gif 𐂷 descendant-link.gif (6)
Penney  : Lucretia, b. 1756, Johnston County, N.C. pedigree.gif 𐂷 descendant-link.gif (8)
Philpot  : Sarah, b. 1745, Charles, Maryland pedigree.gif 𐂷 descendant-link.gif (9)
Poulsdatter  : Ingeborg, b. 1748, pedigree.gif 𐂷 descendant-link.gif (9)
Reeves (Rives)  : Mary, b. 1800, North Carolina, USA pedigree.gif 𐂷William Rives, b. 1680, Surry County, Virginia descendant-link.gif (10)
Reeves  : Mary, b. 1769, Rowan, North Carolina pedigree.gif 𐂷 descendant-link.gif (8)
Ritchie  : Dorothy, b. 1919, Cuba, Lafayette, Missouri, United States pedigree.gif 𐂷John Ritchie, b. 1852, North Carolina, United States descendant-link.gif (5)
Rohrer  : Alice, b. 1879, Pemiscot, Missouri, United States pedigree.gif 𐂷Bernard Rohrer, b. 1615, Reihen, Pfalz, Germany descendant-link.gif (13)
Schmidt  : Susanna, b. 1717, pedigree.gif 𐂷 descendant-link.gif (10)
Scott  : Mary, b. 1721, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania pedigree.gif 𐂷 descendant-link.gif (10)
Shepherd (Sheppard)  : Hannah, b. 1794, Washington, Georgia, USA pedigree.gif 𐂷John Sheppard, b. 1718, descendant-link.gif (11)
Shultz  : Eva, b. 1743, null pedigree.gif 𐂷 descendant-link.gif (9)
Skinner  : Elizabeth, b. 1656, Strathmiglo, Fife, Scotland pedigree.gif 𐂷John Skinner, b. 1633, Scotland descendant-link.gif (11)
Smallwood  : Mary, b. 1790, Surry, North Carolina, United States pedigree.gif 𐂷Elijah Smallwood, b. 1735, Charles City, Charles, Maryland descendant-link.gif (9)
Smith  : Elizabeth, b. 1884, Crawford, Missouri, United States pedigree.gif 𐂷Benjamin Smith, b. 1848, Missouri, United States descendant-link.gif (6)
Snavely (Schnebilli, Schnebelli)  : Elizabeth, b. 1701, Hamm, Hesse, Germany pedigree.gif 𐂷Johan Jacob Schnebelli, b. 1645, Affoltern, Zurich, Switzerland descendant-link.gif (12)
Stafford  : Sarah, b. 1851, Keysville, Crawford, Missouri, United States pedigree.gif 𐂷Noah Stafford, b. 1782, South Carolina, USA descendant-link.gif (7)
Stone  : Martha, b. 1819, pedigree.gif 𐂷 descendant-link.gif (6)
Teter (Dieter)  : Mary, b. 1734, Openquan, Frederick, Virginia pedigree.gif 𐂷Lautten Dieter, b. 1505, Annweiller, Heilbronn, Baden-Wurttemberg, Germany descendant-link.gif (17)
Thompson  : Elizabeth, b. 1797, pedigree.gif 𐂷 descendant-link.gif (7)
Watson  : Mary, b. 1728, North Carolina pedigree.gif 𐂷 descendant-link.gif (9)
Watson  : Mary, b. 1728, North Carolina pedigree.gif 𐂷 descendant-link.gif (9)
Weidner  : Catherine, b. 1763, Somerset, Pennsylvania pedigree.gif 𐂷 descendant-link.gif (8)
Wells  : Elizabeth, b. 1777, Delaware, United States pedigree.gif 𐂷Newman Wells, b. 1738, Rowan, North Carolina descendant-link.gif (9)
Wenger  : Esther, b. 1779, Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA pedigree.gif 𐂷Christian Wenger, b. 1600, Roethenbach, Bern, Switzerland descendant-link.gif (13)
Wiley  : Martha, b. 1678, North Carolina Colony pedigree.gif 𐂷 descendant-link.gif (10)
Wilkinson (Wilkerson)  : Private , b. 1678, North Carolina Colony pedigree.gif 𐂷Joshua Wilkinson, b. 0000, descendant-link.gif (10)
Wymer (Wimer, Weimer)  : Ava, b. 1925, Bourbon, Boone, Missouri, United States pedigree.gif 𐂷Michel Weimer, b. 1624, Langensoultzbach, Bas-Rhin, France descendant-link.gif (12)
Yelverton  : Reese, b. 1730, Johnston County, N.C. pedigree.gif 𐂷 descendant-link.gif (9)
Yocum (Jochimsson, Jochim)  : Margaret, b. 1720, Philadelphia County, Pennsylvania pedigree.gif 𐂷Hans Jochim, b. 1597, Schleswig Holstein, Germany descendant-link.gif (13)

Reitman work

Ivan Reitman (1946-2022) --> Ladislav "Leslie" Reitman (1914-1993) --> Gustav Reitman (1882-1961) --> ? (FS contributor has Nathan Reitman (1882-1910) as his father, which is impossible due to the same birth year.)

Wisconsin name studies

These are not mine but others in the state that I reside in.


  • 2000 - 17 Dec 2020
  • 2500 - 10 Apr 2021
  • 3000 - 23 Jul 2021
  • 3500 - 8 Jan 2022
  • 4000 - 10 Feb 2022
  • 4500 - 3 Apr 2022
  • 5000 - 16 Sep 2022


"The COVID-19 pandemic had made me very aware of my mortality. I feel it responsible to state what should occur in the event of my demise. If I pass, my Landkreis Uelzen profiles should be handed over to my tenth cousin Oliver Stegen, my Sauk County, Wisconsin profiles to Ribbke-16, the profiles attached to Kelsner-1 to them and all other profiles to Gazinski-1" -- Greenwood-3667 21:35, 3 April 2022 (UTC)


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Congrats on the 5K! (belatedly)

Here's to the next K: Cheers! :)

posted by Oliver Stegen
Hi Steven. The category Unique Names is being discussed at this G2G thread. Many people feel the category should be abolished. Maybe you would like to read and/or contribute to the discussion. Regards—Jim
posted by Jim Richardson
Seems there is no point in defending it since they feel there is no point to it.
posted by Steven Greenwood
Steven, you're probably right that people might not end up accepting arguments in favour of retaining the category, but I think they'd give reasonable consideration to any positive aspects you'd like to mention. However, it's of course your choice.
posted by Jim Richardson
Sorry for the late notice!

From your friends at the Appreciation Team:

Congrats on the Super Star Badge!

posted by SJ Baty
Thank you very much, sir! Admittedly I have much to catch up on this month.
posted by Steven Greenwood
I've commented on the pages of your 6th and 7th greatgrandmothers Trine Dorothee and Anne Marie. Happy expanding! ;-)
posted by Oliver Stegen
Was able to extend out the Schröders to the 1600s at least.
posted by Steven Greenwood
Great to have you back! We've missed you ;-)
posted by Oliver Stegen
It's been tentative. I really dived into one of my other passions lately: LEGO. But I'm also being tasked with helping with WikiTree Day so there are reasons that I need to stick around, at least up to the beginning of August.
posted by Steven Greenwood
Tentative!?! That sounds scary. I'd hate to lose you to LEGO. Can't you do both?!?
posted by Oliver Stegen
Well I mean that I will be back in more of a full force soon. I have a lot of different real world projects to complete first.
posted by Steven Greenwood
Ah okay, I'm relieved then. All the best on your projects!
posted by Oliver Stegen
Hello, We are off and runnin! (No Foolin’) Here is the Archives Link…
posted by Pam (Dale) Fraley
I'm just getting to this now, but I still can't find where on FamilySearch I need to go to go through the census records that I said I was going to cover in Wisconsin.
posted by Steven Greenwood
I haven’t either. I have been using the Archive site. I have been working by page. I download the image. Update their profile or add them and link everyone to the image. I’m also adding everything to the spreadsheet so that I have a list of who I have found already and where so I don’t have to search for them on FS and/or Ancestry.

Is there anything I can help you with? Pam

posted by Pam (Dale) Fraley
I got two sheets transcribed now on Archives and downloaded them. I also would like to create a category for the 1950 Census in this location.
posted by Steven Greenwood
Sure do you know how to create the category or would you want me to do it? We could link the spacepage I created to the category.
posted by Pam (Dale) Fraley
I can create the category if Categorization Project is fine with it. It would just follow the same categorization as all other U.S. Census categories.
posted by Steven Greenwood
Great! I don’t believe they will care. Please send me the link when you have it ready.
posted by Pam (Dale) Fraley
Okay it seems that I can do so on Archives? Does FS not allow me to at this time? I don't see my county available in Opportunities.
posted by Steven Greenwood
It seems like all the sites are working independently.
posted by Pam (Dale) Fraley
That... seems rather inefficient.
posted by Steven Greenwood
Diepholz, 19th of February 2022

Hi Steven,

Having been a Wikitreer for some months after a warm recommendation in Slekt og Data (Oslo, Norway) I have typed in a good deal of my ancestry: my father was born in Dresden/Saxony, my mother was born in Oslo/Norway, I spent my life so far as an achivist in Diepholz, in the center of Lower Saxony, busy for the city plus the county admistration specialized on local history and especially on family history. I just tried to post that I can help with Diepholz city families 1600 - 1910. 1600 through 1800 was published as three paper volumes 1995 - 2001 by Klaus Müller, a local Latin and History teacher. I am busy with the follow-up. So far for today



posted by Falk Liebezeit
Certainly, if you would like to help with Diepholz itself, by all means, start a space page for it. I found that is the most effective way of gathering all of your data and research interest in one spot. You can always branch out from there if things need more expansion/focus becomes more granular. Make sure to link to it from the Lower Saxony page, or inform me and I can do it.
posted by Steven Greenwood
Congratulations on 4000 edits! Keep up the good work ... ;-)
posted by Oliver Stegen
Other than the first month here, that might have been the fastest I added 500 contributions, which I know is still pennies compared to the number of edits some people have here.
posted by Steven Greenwood
Don't fret! I personally consider your "2p's worth" a treasure. And from the responses you got on your WikiTreer of the Week's interview, it looks like there are many who think likewise. As the Swahili say, "safari ni hatua", i.e. a journey consists of steps, so keep plodding ahead ... ;-)
posted by Oliver Stegen
Hello Steven,

Going through my family line from the UK I came across your name too often in the " Degrees of Separation" . Just thought you might want to get in touch Sincerely Roger C Green.

posted by Roger Green
edited by Roger Green
If you're seeing me within Degrees of Separation this week, it is because I am the Member of the Week. MofWs are grouped with the notables under a certain theme each week. However, you will notice that I do not fall within the theme as I don't have an alliterative name like Nichelle Nichols, William Wallace, or Harry Houdini (actually Eric Weiss).
posted by Steven Greenwood
Thanks so much for your help with the Jimmy Wales Challenge!
posted by Maggie N.
I'm doing the best I can and the challenge is far from over!
posted by Steven Greenwood
Happy New Year, cousin Steven!

Here's to another year of great family research: Cheers! :)

posted by Oliver Stegen
Thank you Oliver. I hope you are well and can also make new discoveries in the new year! Prost!!
posted by Steven Greenwood
Congrats on the new input from your Y-DNA results! Quite a Christmas present, huh?

Best wishes from Germany, Oliver

posted by Oliver Stegen
Hey! Thanks for the comment on my page, man. Nice profile! Wookiepedia, huh? That takes a lot of skill and willingness to put up with the legions of Star Wars fans. I am sure you handled it with the skill and grace of a Jedi Master secretly plotting to send the lot of them to Hoth. =)

Thanks again, man. Cool pic!

posted by Chris Ferraiolo
Yeah it's been a ride! I don't actively edit the Wook these days though I might again should I catch up on some television shows. My wiki evolution started over fifteen years ago and finally landed me here last year thanks to the pandemic and a letter from my grandma with a pedigree chart inside.

Thanks for your support!

posted by Steven Greenwood
Awesome. I am familiar with wikis, too as I've been on a few of them myself. Glad you are here. Keep up the good work. And letters like that are awesome. =D
posted by Chris Ferraiolo

The Germany Project Leaders are doing their semi-annual check-in with all project members and we want to verify that you’re still interested in being a member of the Project. Please respond by private message and let me know.

Are you currently working with one of our Sub-projects or Teams? If not, take a look at our main Project page for a full list.

We really appreciate your contributions on WikiTree, and thank you for all your hard work. If you have any questions, please ask. We would also love to hear any feedback you may have for the project.

I look forward to hearing from you soon!

Traci ~ Germany Project co-leader

posted by Traci Thiessen
Thanks for awarding me the Community Star! :-o
posted by Oliver Stegen
Hey, you deserve it man! Thanks for all that you are doing!
posted by Steven Greenwood
Hi Steven,

On your recommendation, I submitted a DNA sample to Family Tree. I've also entered the data on GedMatch for wider comparison. I just ran a comparison of our two kits with the result "No shared DNA segments found". I wonder if I did anything wrong ...

Best wishes from the old country Oliver

posted by Oliver Stegen
It's possible that we are so far removed genetically that it isn't picking up a match. That of course doesn't mean we're not related, only distantly, which we've shown here.
posted by Steven Greenwood
The alternative being that one of the 19 relationship steps between us is not as genetic as it's been portrayed. On the other hand, there are _*eight*_ common ancestors, i.e. we're multiply genetically related which makes our blood relationship pretty robust, I'd say. Sorry, I'm starting to blabber ... #ThinkingOutLoud
posted by Oliver Stegen
Update: I ran the test myself and shortened the smallest centiMorgan to be picked up to 3 cM and I got some matching. When you run it that way, the largest segment is 5.3 cM and 67.859% of the 474239 SNPs are full identical. It determined that we have 12 shared segments and 47.6cM (1.326 %) of Total Half-Match segments (HIR).

So there is something there.

posted by Steven Greenwood
Ah, well done, Sir! So changing the parameters did the trick. Your estimate of 10-12 generations for an MRCA is spot-on. The relationship finder has eight common ancestors at 8th and 9th grandparent level.
posted by Oliver Stegen
Hi Steven,

Thanks for taking responsibility for Orphaned Profiles. This is a courtesy email to share the After Adopting Orphans FAQ which explains the special attention adopted profiles will sometimes need from their profile managers. One quick way to find the profiles you adopted is by searching your Contributions List for the word "adopted" and "manager." You can find a quick link to your Contributions List in the My WikiTree dropdown menu.

If you will be working with any profiles needing GEDCOM cleanup, the AGC tool can help with formatting so that you can concentrate on the research. You can read more about it in the WikiTree AGC FAQ.

Let me know if you have any questions,


posted by Debi (McGee) Hoag
Thanks Debi. They were all in my direct ancestry and we're abandoned by the previous creator who is a cousin to me via those ancestors, so naturally I will have a reason to have taken them over. Not the first time I've adopted either, as I'm also a member of Germany Project.
posted by Steven Greenwood
Congratulations, Steven, on 3000 contributions (and 200 thank-yous ;-) ) !!! Well done!!!
posted by Oliver Stegen
Hi Steven,

thanks for your comment .

You are right, there are about 40 Huber in this family book of Oggersheim. And a few Sauer and Saur. Do you have some more detailed information? The family book only goes up to 1814. The later documents can all be found in the town's archives. I have to go there again soon anyway.

Stay healthy Lothar

posted by Lothar Wolf
I only have my brick walls that were *probably* born around 1910, Johann Sauer and Louisa (Luisa) Huber, and the Hoover family-connected Michael Huber who lived in 1700s Oggersheim. Yeah its a large gap right now.
posted by Steven Greenwood
Greetings Steven .. "Harry Ellsworth Cole" is one of my favorite people. Thank you for your collaboration and exquisite form.

C'est Bon ..

posted by Stanley Baraboo
He did much for Sauk County knowledge, as well as William H. Canfield. Fleshing the rest of that book out here tonight.
posted by Steven Greenwood
The later editions published by his wife Dorothy are the best quality.

William H. Canfield for certain !

Depending on your objective; an interesting off the path circa , " juxtapositioning" of Winnebago, French and American social commentary written by the "finest" soap and gossip "Authority" to record a changing Wisconsin is .. drum roll ..

Juliette A. McGill Kinzie, Wau-Bun, the "Early Day" in the North-West (Urbana, IL: University of Illinois Press, 1992)

It snaps a "sociological perspective " just immediate to the region driving out the Winnebago Nation, the dusting of the Black Hawk War, USA Surveyors Intruding and "gaming" the serpentine "Baraboo" River and a mass human animal migration into primitive, savage camps beckoning to become a civilization.

Tres Bien !

posted by Stanley Baraboo
Yes I have refered to as a secondary source but not a primary, as I would need to see the sources themselves. A lot of these Ortfamilianbuch entries are using FindAGrave as a source..
posted by Steven Greenwood
This online OFB is based on an actual book by E. Behnke. I'm starting to use it and already consider it a treasure trove. So thanks, Dieter, for mentioning it!
posted by Oliver Stegen
Funny thing. I saw a physical copy by Eberhard Behnke in the Reedsburg Public Library last month. Oh how I wish I could have had that book!
posted by Steven Greenwood
Which book was it? There must be at least a dozen by him. Have a look at the publications of the Museums- und Heimatverein Uelzen at and you'll find his name with quite a number of the books on their list (including ISBN numbers and order options!).
posted by Oliver Stegen
Actually I take it back. It wasn't one of the parish books, but a book or a section from a book titled German Immigrants to Southern Wisconsin (1999) by Behnke which has a large focus on Sauk County (The particular portion available is the 414-page "Auswanderers des Landkreises Uelzen im. 19 Jahrhundert" or "Emigrants from the Rural District of Uelzen in the 19th Century") and it was donated to the Reedsburg Public Library by Lothar Rindfleisch who visited Reedsburg in 1998. It has over 6000 surnames. I would still want a copy of that book.
posted by Steven Greenwood
I've sent an email to the Museumsverein Uelzen ordering more parish books and asking about Behnke's 1999 Auswanderer ... book but haven't heard back in five days. Hopefully I can get actual copies.

Still, even if not, all information (i.e. all 6000 surnames plus data) from Behnke 1999 has been entered into the database which Dieter sent you the link for above.

posted by Oliver Stegen
I guess I didn't realize they were one and the same. Still it's useful to me to see multiple names on one physical page with data spelled out rather than each individual entity in its own page, ironic I know.
posted by Steven Greenwood
The books arrived! I now also own OFB Hanstedt I, Natendorf and Wichmannsburg.
posted by Oliver Stegen
Huzzah! Great to hear. And please add those to the list of OFBs in Germany Project.
posted by Steven Greenwood
edited by Steven Greenwood
Oh yeah, I did that straight away.
posted by Oliver Stegen
Congratulations on your blue generous genealogist badge, you deserve it! :-)
posted by Kylie Haese
Hi Steven,

I just found another immigrant family from the Bienenbüttel area to Sauk County, Wisconsin. You may be interested in Peter Ernst Heinrich Hamburg, the first member of that family born in Sauk County, whereas his father, uncles and grandparents, although all born in Grünhagen, all lived and died in Sauk County. I'll add more details once I find time.

Best wishes Oliver

posted by Oliver Stegen
Hi Steven again,

more on the Hamburg family: August and Carl Heinrich Gustav, although having different first names, seem to be the same person - same birth and death dates to the day, and same burial place. Can you investigate and, if true, confirm?

Thanks! Oliver

posted by Oliver Stegen
Hi Steven,

I get it now. Carl Heinrich Gustav anglicized his preferred first name Gustav to August on immigration to the States. Duh! I'll merge the profiles later.

Best wishes


posted by Oliver Stegen
Congratulations on 2500 contributions! Woohoo!
posted by Oliver Stegen
Hi, Steven!

Thank you for adding your DNA to WikiTree. Getting the Best from DNA will tell you more about how DNA kits are used on WikiTree.

I hope this helps! If you have any questions or problems, let me know.

Take care,

Laura ~ WikiTree Greeter

posted by Laura DeSpain
Thanks for chiming in Laura. I had quite the headache trying to get my data from other places to just my computer. Once I overcame that hurdle, the WikiTree attachment was straight-forward. Though I must ask: since this is mtDNA and I don't have my tree that well developed on my mother's side, how much will that actually help me to find relatives on that side? Is it truly more for long term ancestry? Side note: I am waiting on results for an autosomal test.
posted by Steven Greenwood
You are welcome, Steven. Your mtDNA will help once you have added your maternal line. Once you do that it will populate and show up on all of your maternal line ancestors. It could be long or closer ancestry if any other members share ancestors and they have added an mtDNA test theirs will show up on the same ancestor's profiles. Once you are able to add your autosomal it will populate to all of your ancestor's profiles. Any members who have added DNA and share the same ancestors will also show up on those profiles starting with the same shared ancestor. If you have taken tests at the same place you can check for matches. If you have tested at different companies you can upload your DNA and mtDNA to GEDMatch and add your GEDMatch ID numbers to your test details. Then if another member has done the same you can use GEDMatch to compare your DNA no matter if you used different companies.

I hope that helps. If you have any questions please let me know.

posted by Laura DeSpain
Well that's just it. I know nothing beyond my great grandparents on that side. Louise Huber is my Earliest Known Ancestor, and I don't even have birth or death data for her. I need help figuring out that to get farther down the line so that WikiTree can give me something to worn with.

Also I thought GEDMatch did not accept mtDNA. I tried and it despised the FAFTA file. MitoYDNA appeared to be the only place that would work after I downloaded Chrome and installed their extension to get the widget to appear on FamilyTreeDNA.

posted by Steven Greenwood
edited by Steven Greenwood
Hi Steven,

Sorry for the delay ... I just awarded you a Germany Project member badge. Willkommen!


posted by Traci Thiessen
Thanks for the badge, Traci! Incidentally I've been away for about a month due to other priorities but this is welcome timing on my return.

Is there a way for me to get on the Lower Saxony Team, or a certain method by which I need to apply?

posted by Steven Greenwood
edited by Steven Greenwood
You've been added to the Lower Saxony Team!

When you have a chance, please submit a join request to our Google Group, where our project communicates. Please make sure to add your name and WikiTree ID to the request so we can get you set up. Here's a link:

Happy New Year!

posted by Traci Thiessen
Hey Steven,

I will try to find something. The problem will be that Johann Sauer is a very common name in Germany.

An additional problem is the period 1910 - 1990; there are only few documents from this recent time that can be viewed online.

Gravestones are removed in Germany after 20 - 30 years. If no one has taken photos during this period, you will not find anything about this.

Unfortunately I searched in the German gravestone project without success (

Newspapers were also not put online at that time and only a few were filmed afterwards, so that I do not expect success with the obituaries.

I will search again individual parishes in the indicated area on archion. Perhaps I may be successful. Do you happen to have names of your great-great-grandparents, that could be easier.

I will contact you as soon as I have found something. regards Dieter

posted by Dieter Lewerenz
Oggersheim is partly already available on archion online.

I looked through the funeral book 1980 - 1986, they were not listed there. The funeral book from 1986 on is not yet available online. 1979 - 1980 they are not deceased either. But the Sauer family is found in Oggersheim. A Georg Sauer (born 1899) died there in the 1980s. The baptismal register 1906 - 1922 is also not yet available online. But the mentioned books are already registered in Archion as white, which means that they will be put online in the foreseeable future.

posted by Dieter Lewerenz
Unfortunately I don't have any names for second great grandparents on that side. I just know their children, my grandma Waltraud Elizabeth that passed away here in America in 2018 (from her obituary is where I got the names), her living sister Erika and then their brother Jürgen Sauer passed away this year on 12 April 2020. Maybe you can find his obituary if it was posted?
posted by Steven Greenwood
edited by Steven Greenwood
After a quick internet research i cannot find a Jürgen sauer, who died in 2020, but i found a Hans-Jürgen Sauer, deceased 12.04.2020 in Bobenheim-Roxheim in Rhineland-Palatinate

Was his full name perhaps Hans-Jürgen?

posted by Dieter Lewerenz
Bobenheim-Roxheim is only 12 km far away from Oggersheim
posted by Dieter Lewerenz
It's possible. I'm not sure that he was in Oggersheim/Ludwigshafen proper.
posted by Steven Greenwood
Don't know if I updated you, but I did make contact with my 1st cousin once removed Jochen Sauer, and so I'm just waiting on him to talk with my grand-aunt and potentially get some more information. It's taking a while though.
posted by Steven Greenwood
Great news Steven, maybe that brings you a little bit forward.
posted by Dieter Lewerenz
Thanks for taking the Pre-1700 Quiz, Steven!

Pre-1700 ancestors can be shared by many descendants, so collaboration is essential. You can learn more about joining the community in How To #3 and in the Project FAQ.

Sources are very important here on Wikitree, especially on Pre-1700 profiles. It is how we show where we got the info and helps others find it too. Find out more about Pre-1700 Profile sourcing here and source citation info here.

The United States project or Germany project may fit your research focus. If not, use the Pre-1700 Projects list to find other possibilities. Review the project page to learn about resources and guidelines as well as how to collaborate with the project members.

If you have any questions, click “reply” below this message and I will get back to you.

Peggy ~ Pre-1700 Greeter

posted by Peggy Watkins
Hi Steven

Our Adoption Angels group has set up this page on Historic Adoptions. Hopefully, this will help you find out about your 2nd ggrandfather

Azure Rae ~ WikiTree Greeter

posted by Azure Robinson