Frederick Griffin
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Frederick William Griffin (abt. 1852 - 1922)

Frederick William Griffin
Born about in At Sea, aboard the 'Amazon', en route to Australiamap
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Husband of — married 11 Sep 1873 in North Adelaide South Australiamap
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Died at about age 70 in Brompton Park, South Australia, Australiamap
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Biography

Flag of England, being born at sea on the way
Frederick Griffin migrated from England, being born at sea on the way to Australia.
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Frederick Griffin came free to the Colony of South Australia (1836-1900)

Family stories suggested Frederick William's family was from Somerset, but born on an english channel crossing. In fact Frederick William GRIFFIN[1] was born on board the AMAZON on the way to Australia with his family and his birth is noted in a South Australian newspaper article. His birth registered upon arrival in Adelaide.[2] It is also noted on his death certificate that he had been in the Commonwealth for 69 years, this is consistent with the timing of his birth in abt 1852 sometime between when the AMAZON left Plymouth in London on the 26th November 1851, and before it arrived at Port Adelaide, South Australia on the 20th February 1852.

The South Australian Register Saturday 21 February 1852:-
Passengers by the the Amazon (Arrival reported yesterday) Mr. and Mrs. Joyner and three children, and Dr. Edward Gregory Surg. Sup. In the cabin.
Birth on the passage: Mrs. Griffin and Mrs. Chisholm of sons , Mrs Weller who died, Mrs. Henderson and Mrs. Miller of Daughters. The child of Mrs. Weller, lives, Having been kindly cared for by one of the females. Death on the passage: John and Rebecca Albins, Janet Laidlaw, James Patterson, Susan Place, Emma and Esther Weller, William Thomas Wright, John O'Loughlin, James Anderson, Fanny Dodds, John Harris, Mary Richards, Mary and Ann Williams, James Ballantyne and William Phillips, also Mrs. Elizabeth Weller died shortly after confined.

Frederick grew up in Adelaide and later became a brickmaker. He married Margaret ELLARD on 11 Septemeber 1873 at Christ Church in North Adelaide. Witnesses to the marriage were Edward Ellard (probably Margaret's father), a bootmaker from Brompton; and Eliza Harris (??) of Plympton. It is believed he practiced the methodist religion. Frederick and Margaret had seven children, Clara Emily, William Ernest, Edward James, Frank Milton, Henry Frederick, Ada Ann and Edith Elizabeth.

Further information about Frederick and his family was found in an article in SA REGISTER Saturday 31 August 1895, entitled THE RELATIVES OF THE DECEASED. The article relates to the death of his cousin Sarah Jane WILLIS:-

Our Hindmarsh correspondent writes:- Some relatives of the late Mrs.Willis are living at Coglin-street, Brompton Park. The maiden name of tbe unfortunate woman was Sarah Jane Coates, and Mr. John Thomas Coates. brickmaker, of Coglin-street, is her brother, and for nearly three years he did not know where she was. He last saw her at the residence of Mrs. G. J. Griffin, who was a cousin of hers. Mrs. Griffin, wife of Mr. A. Griffin, of Frost-street, Brompton, states that the deceased with her brother, Mr. J. T. Coates, lived with her husband's mother, the late Mrs. Ann Griffin, at East-street, Brompton. until the death of her parents. When Mrs. Griffin's death took place, about thirteen years ago, they made their home chiefly at Mr. G. J. Griffins. John, the brother, following the brickmaking trade, and she going to service. The last time tbey saw her was at her brother's house, and Mrs. Coates, the sister-in-law of deceased, who was ill, could not accompany her to the station, although she wished to see her off. Tbe deceased said she was going to Alma. Mrs. Griffin, wife of Mr. Frederick Griffin, also of Coglin-street, and another cousin to the deceased, when speaking of the affair said there were five in the Coates family, and they were unfortunate in being left orphans previous to coming to Adelaide. Their father was killed by a horse and cart running over him. At that time tbey lived near Wallaroo, and it was after their father's death that the children came to Adelaide and became dispersed among various relatives. The eldest married soon after, and later on the second of tho family married a Mr. Marriott. John and Sarah Jane lived with Mrs. Ann Griffin until she died, when the former went to Mr. G. J. Griffin's and the latter to Norwood, where she entered service. The youngest of the family was a boy, and be lived for years with another relative named Mrs. King, who resided at Plympton. He was married, and lived in the North. Mrs. Griffin did not know the whereabouts of any of them except John, who was new married and lived near her. She had not the least doubt that tbe deceased was Sarah Ann Coates, because she left to go in the direction of Hamley Bridge. Mrs. Griffin was not surprised at not hearing from Mrs. Willis, as she could neither read nor write. The late Mrs. Willis was rather short and thick-built.

Frederick died at his residence at Coglin Street, Brompton Park, aged 70, after being sick for 2 days on 17 September 1922. The cause of death noted as asthma, chronic bronchitis, arteriosclerosis, cerebral haemorrahage. He was buried in the Hindmarsh cemetery, M50 on 19 September 1922.

DNA

  • DNA matches between two sets of 3rd cousins once removed only 'tentatively' confirms the paternal and maternal lines to the shared ancestors of James Griffin and Ann Coats .[3][4]
  • The paternal line is now confirmed to the shared ancestral couple of William Griffin and his wife Elizabeth.


Sources

  1. Veronica Williams created WikiTree profile Griffin-3035 through the import of GRIFFIN_2013-08-12.ged on Aug 12, 2013.
  2. Australia, Birth Index, 1788-1922 (Provo, UT, USA, Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010), Ancestry.com, Database online.Father:James GRIFFIN, Mother: Ann COATS
  3. GEDmatch one to one comparison 'tentatively' confirmed relationship of third cousin once removed between Veronica Williams and Unnamed DNA Griffin (BA) and on chromosome 7, 9.2cMs, 2011.
  4. GEDmatch one to one comparison 'tentatively' confirmed relationship of 4th cousin between Veronica Williams and granddaughter of Thelma Margaret Griffin JF, on chromosome 17, 10cMs and on chromosome 18, 34.2cMs, 2012.
  5. GEDmatch triangulated group confirmation of relationships between Veronica Williams, GEDmatch ID T350954, Peter Lock, Gedmatch A290509, and their 4th cousin once Greame GEDmatch A838759 ; approx 9cMs overlapping segment match on chromosome 14, www.gedmatch.com, August 2017.
  6. GEDmatch triangulated group consisting of Veronica WIlliams, Private Griffin and Lionel Haslam sharing a 10.4 cMs segment on chromosome 7, 28 Feb 2018.
  • Newspaper - Adelaide Observer, State Library of Adelaide, Alma Plains Tradgedy, Sat 7 Sep 1895, p31, Col C.
  • Genealogy reports, Various, GRIFFIN - Email Lis Mudge.
  • BDM - SA, Digger index, GRIFFIN Edward - Birth - HIN 243/122.
  • Shipping - The Ships List, www.theshipslist.com, 1851/2 Amazon; Plymouth to Port Adelaide - The Ships List www.theshipslist.com.
  • Jill Stratton, Editor, Biographical Index of South Australians 1836-1885, Hawkesbury Library, 300 George Street Windsor, NSW, GRIFFIN, Frederick Wm, p619.
  • Cemetery Index, Hindmarsh SA - Griffins.
  • BDM - SA, Digger index, GRIFFIN Frederick - Death - 457/32.
  • BDM - SA, Digger index, GRIFFIN William Ernest - Birth - HIN 326/282.
  • BDM - SA, Digger index, GRIFFIN to Barber marriage - 1908/235/36.




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It may be possible to confirm family relationships with Frederick by comparing test results with other carriers of his Y-chromosome or his mother's mitochondrial DNA. However, there are no known yDNA or mtDNA test-takers in his direct paternal or maternal line. It is likely that these autosomal DNA test-takers will share some percentage of DNA with Frederick:

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RMS Amazon, 1852
RMS Amazon, 1852



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