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John Richard Haines (1614 - 1671)

John Richard Haines
Born in Boxgrove, Sussex, Englandmap
Son of and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
[children unknown]
Died at age 56 in Doncaster, Yorkshire, Englandmap
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Biography

John Richard Haines. [1]

Born 24 Aug 1614. England[2]

Died 25 Apr 1671. England[3]

Excerpted from the 1955 Zimri Haines History:

"The Haines family is said by antiquarians to be of Saxon origin and first appears in Devonshire, in the West Saxon Kingdom, in the early part of the sixth century among the following of Hengst and Horsa when the family name was known as Hayne. The family was found in England at the time of the conquest, seated in Hayne, Stowford Parish, near the Tamcoe on the borders of Cornwall. The name was written Hayne until the compilation of the Doomsday Book, when it was changed to Haines. Certain branches of the family still retain the original form of the spelling. The Haynes Armorial design has been traced to the year 607.

From Richard Haines and his Descendants: "Haines, and its variants, was a common name in the South and West of England as early as the 15th and 16th centuries. The form Haynes appears to have been used more extensively than Haines in the older records, so it is likely that the older form of Haynes was changed to the newer form of Haines by some families.

Even older than Haynes were the forms Hayne and Haine, and in the case of the Welsh families, the form Heynes. The form Haynes probably arose in three distinct ways, as follows:

(1) By the mere will of some hearer of the older name Hayne, or by common usage, the person named Hayne might desire to use the more modern Haynes. Since a farm or a mill owned by a person names Hayne would often be referred as Hayne's farm, or Haynes mill, common usage would result in the name eventually becoming Haynes.

(2) A corruption of Hayne-son.

(3) From the Welsh Einws. Brochwel Yschithrog reigned over Powys, the central part of Wales, A.D. 607. A descendant, Einion, Prince of Powys, was distinguished in the War A.D. 1106-1135. Einion had a son, also named Einion, but after the Welsh custom he was familiarly called by diminuative Einws, pronounced Eins. Einws had a son John, known as John Einws, which was sometimes written Eines or Eynes. John Eines lives in Bawsley, a town in the parish of Alderbury, which was in Montgomeryshire. From him descended a flourishing family using the names Heynes, and later Haynes, that spead over Shropshire and Montgomeryshire. The forms Hayne and Haine probably evolved from more than one source, and possibly could have been Anglo-Saxon, Saxon-Norman, Corrnish."

Our ancestor, John Hayne, has been confused with John Haynes, the 1st Governor of the Colony of Connecticut who was born 1 May 1594 in Essex, England. This John Haynes had six children with wife Mary Thornton. After her death, he remarried Mabel Harlakenden, with whom he had five more children. (Reference Connecticut State Library http://www.cslib.org/gov/hayne sj.htm)

He has also been confused with another John Haynes (b. ab1586) of Cockayne-Hatley, Bedfordshire, England. This John Haynes married Margaret Cokayne (b. abt 1590) abt 1614 at Cockayne-Hatley, Bedfordshire, England. (Reference LDS Ancestral file.)'

John Hayne had the following child:

+ 2 i. John Richard2 Haines was born 24 Aug 1614.

Second Generation

2. John Richard2 Haines (John1 Hayne)[ii] was born in Boxglove, Sussex, England 24 Aug 1614.

He married Elizabeth Stanford in Rudyard, Sussex, England, 03 May 1639. Elizabeth was born in Horsham, Sussex, England 02 Apr 1619. Elizabeth [iii] was the daughter of Edward Stanford and Mary ?? .

John Richard Haines and Elizabeth Stanford had the following child:

+ 3 i. Richard3 Haines was born about 1642.




Sources

  1. Source: #S1059786166
  2. Source: #S1059786166
  3. Source: #S1059786166
  • Source: S1059786166 Repository: #R1050470105 Global, Find A Grave Index for Burials at Sea and other Select Burial Locations, 1300s-Current Ancestry.com Publication: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.
  • Repository: R1050470105 Ancestry.com




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This is a wonderful biography of the Haines family, but it contains some incorrect information about names, dates, and places; too much for me to list here. My book, "Who Was Richard Haines, the Quaker emigrant who died at sea in 1682?" which I spent about thirty years researching here and in England has provable documentation of Richard's, birth in Oxfordshire, as well as the birth of his son, John, and an unknown daughter who died young; and much more. Its available at some libraries and at Amazon.com for $9.98.
posted by Donna (Haines) Daly
This John Haines was not the son of Gov. John Haynes and Mary Thornton. The DNB cites John (no middle name) son of Gov. John Haynes as being born in 1617 not 1614 (his father married in 1616). Gov. John Haynes was very wealthy and held many estates in Essex, so a Sussex birth is rather suspect. Also, as landed gentry they would have known how to spell their names and the family was notably Puritan, not Quakers.
posted by Kirk Hess

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