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Roger (Hales) Halys (abt. 1274 - 1313)

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Sir Roger "of Hales Hall, coroner of Norfolk" Halys formerly Hales
Born about in Harwick, Essex, Englandmap
Son of [uncertain] and [uncertain]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died in London, Norfolk, Englandmap
Profile last modified | Created 21 Feb 2011
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Biography

Sir Roger is sometimes said to be of Harwich,[1] but Verity (2006), states:

"Two 16th-century pedigrees in the British Museum (Harleian MSS 5189 and 6093) state that Roger was the son of one Ranulph de Halys by Demeta le Clauer, of Starston, Norfolk, and that his wife was Jane, daughter and heir of ---- Skogan. None of this information has been verified by 13th or 14th century sources. How exactly Sir Roger fits into the family of Hales that held manors in Norfolk is uncertain.
What can be known is that he held two of the Loddon manors, Loddon Hall and Hales Hall, about 12 miles southeast of Norwich, as well as manors in Roughton and Metton, about 15 miles north of Norwich. There were other lands the family held, for example in Wacton and Forncett, several miles west of the Loddon manors, and all were held of the earl of Norfolk.
The statement that Sir Roger de Hales was “of Harwich,” which originated in Ralph Brooke’s Catalogue of Nobility (1619) and is repeated in several genealogies, was perhaps a mistake for Norwich, the closest town to the majority of the Hales manors. It is believed Sir Roger was related to Walter de Suffield (d.1257), bishop of Norwich (Smith, 1935)."


Marriage

m. Alice. Issue:

  • Alice Halys m. Thomas Brotherton, Earl of Norfolk[2]

Occupation

  • Coroner of Norfolk (collect and protect revenues for king)

Sources

Bibliography


  • Verity, B. (2006). Love Matches and Contracted Misery: Thomas of Brotherton and his Daughters, pp. 97. FMG. PDF.[1]

Citations and Notes


  1. see also: Sir Roger Halys of Hales Hall |Loddon in Roughton, Norfolk (Wikipedia: Thomas of Brotherton, 1st Earl of Norfolk)
  2. parents: Edward I m.2 Marguerite "the Pearl" of France (Wikipedia: Thomas of Brotherton, 1st Earl of Norfolk);
    `Thomas Brotherton, as it turns out, was brother-in-law to John Jermye, having married far below his station to Alice Hales. A post by Peter Dale on the Medieval Genealogy list alerts us to the existence of an notice in Notes and queries (1886) which shows evidence that Alice, wife of Thomas Brotherton, had a sister named Joan Jermyne. She apparently had an appointment to be mistress dwelling with Edward II's daughters.'

See Also...


  • Burke, J. & Burke, J.B. (1848). The Royal Families of England, Scotland, and Wales, with Their Descendants, Sovereigns and Subjects.Google eBook
  • Chauncy, H. (1700). The Historical Antiquities of Hertfordshire: With the Original of Counties, Hundreds Or Wapentakes ... the Foundation and Origin of Monasteries, Churches ... and Vicarages ... Faithfully Collected from Public Records ... and Other Select Authorities. Together with an Exact Transcript of Domesday Book, So Far as Concerns this Shire, and the Translation Thereof in English. To which are Added, the Epitaphs and Memorable Inscriptions in All the Parishes, (pp.374). Google eBook.


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Collaboration

On 13 May 2016 at 12:47 GMT Shelley Freestone wrote:

On 7 May 2016 at 10:54 GMT Shelley Freestone wrote:

Metefield In Mendham,

¶Was anciently of the fee of the abbot of Holm, of whom it was held in the time of Richard I. at half a fee, by Hugh Burd; after which, it was escheated to the Crown, and was granted to Thomas de Brotherton, son to King Edward I. who married Alice, daughter of Sir Roger Hales of Harwich, Knt. whose sister Joan, (fn. 22) married to Sir John Germyn or Jermy, Knt.; and in 1325, the said Thomas conveyed to his brother-in-law, Sir John Jermy, Knt. two parts of this manor, and the third part to his wife, for the assignment of her dower. In 1353, Sir John Germy, Knt. held it at a quarter of a fee of the manor of King's-hall in Mendham. In 1385, Sir Will. Jermy, Knt. was buried here; Elizabeth his wife survived him. In 1428, Sir John Jermy, Knt. and Margaret Mounteney his wife, owned this and Withersdale manors; and he it was, that rebuilt this church and manor-house, where he placed the matches of his family in the windows; and his own arms are carved several times on the timber of the roof, and are still in several windows, and in stone on the font; he died in 1487, and was buried at the north-east corner of the chancel; his inscription was cut in old text letters on his stone, but it is so worn and broken, that this only remains,

On 21 Sep 2015 at 14:57 GMT Andrew Lancaster wrote:

As per the citations on the other article about the same person, possibly the parents should be marked as unverified?

On 21 Sep 2015 at 14:56 GMT Andrew Lancaster wrote:

Hales-40 and Hales-255 appear to represent the same person because: See the information in the articles. Clearly the same person.

On 26 Dec 2013 at 22:06 GMT John Beeson wrote:

found the following info via wikipedia:

Sir Roger de Hales of Hales Hall in Loddon in Roughton, Norfolk. Alice's fatherdied in August 1338. His only son, Edward of Norfolk, having predeceased him, Alice and her sister Margaret were their father's heirs. In March 1339 Edward III ordered William Trussell, escheator, to deliver to Alice and her husband, Edward Montagu, her share of her father's lands.[4] Alice's husband fought at the Battle of Crecy in 1346, and was summoned to Parliament from 20 November 1348 to 20 November 1360 by writs directed Edwardo de Monte Acuto, "whereby he is held to have become Lord Montagu".




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