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John (Harcourt) de Harcourt (1272 - 1330)

John de Harcourt formerly Harcourt
Born in Stanton Harcourt, Oxfordshire, Englandmap
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married 1254 in Englandmap
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Died at about age 58 in Stanton Harcourt, Oxfordshire, Englandmap
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Profile last modified | Created 25 Apr 2016
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posted by David Mark Cordell
Can you please check this profile? At the moment it shows John born in 1272 but married in 1254 which is clearly incorrect. Thanks
posted by Sarah Long
My 21at great grandfather
posted by Suzy Young
Time travel?

I'm not sure how I became profile manager because I haven't tried to do much research in England. I welcome qualified individuals to edit as appropriate. I suspect that the confusion is from imprecise dates that indicate ranges of birth/death years.

posted by David Mark Cordell
Is anyone other than me concerned that the dad is 6 years younger than the daughter?
posted by Rita Guinn
The marriage date is before John's birth date, which is of course impossible. If the marriage date of John and Matilda was later that would be even later after their daughter Alice's birth - and also longer after Matilda's death. If Alice's birth was later, perhaps abt 1295, it would still work with Alice's son Henry's birth of 1315 and would follow the more common practice of the time for the wife to be younger than the husband (rather than 19 years older than John De Musters as is shown now). Matilda's death also being 1295 (to keep with her death being the same year as Alice's birth, or at least not before Alice is born) works but it does mean she would have been 60 when she gave birth. That's not common now and would be even rarer in this time period. John and Matilda's marriage date of 1294, one year before Alice is born, fits with Alice being the first born and John would be 22, which is well within the normal range.

However, the most parsimonious explanation is that John's birth date is wrong, and that he was born around the same time as Matilda.

posted by Rod Carty

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