Timothy Hatherly migrated to New England during the Puritan Great Migration (1621-1640). (See Great Migration Begins, by R. C. Anderson, Vol. 2, p. 876) Join: Puritan Great Migration Project Discuss: pgm
Timothy Hatherly, was baptized in Winkleigh, Devonshire, England, 29 September 1588,[1] the son of Robert and Ellinor (_____) Hatherly.[2]
Life in England and New England
He first travelled to New England in 1623, but shortly returned to England, where he was a feltmaker and merchant;[3] he was at times referred to as a gentleman. Between 1623 and 1631, while in England, Hatherly associated himself with the group of mostly London merchants who had financed the Pilgrims' settlement at Plymouth. In 1626, he was one of five London men who, with 53 planters (collectively, the "Purchasers"), agreed to settle the colony's related indebtedness in a particular payment scheme. (See The 1626 Adventurers and Purchasers.) Say a year later, the obligations of the Purchasers were assumed by "a smaller group of twelve persons," including Hatherty.[4][5] Of the mostly London financiers, Anderson writes, "[They] looked over, and frequently worsened, the business affairs of the planters at Plymouth."[6] Prior to settling permanently at New England, Hatherly resigned his position with the London men.[7]
For several years, beginning in 1631, Hatherty made annual trips to New England, each time returning to England "after a few weeks or months ... initially more interested in trade."[8]
1631 - arrived aboard the Friendship (at Boston 14 July 1631), bringing letters for Governor Winthrop.[9]
1632 - arrived aboard the Charles, 5 June 1632[10]
1633 - arrived aboard the William, 22 February 1632/3.[11]
As early as 1632, Bradford reported that Hatherly had made "preparations to plant and dwell in the country.[12] On 1 July 1634, he appears as a resident, and on 11 January of the following year, he joined the Scituate church.[13]
Marriages
Timothy Hatherly married (1) in St. Olave parish, Surrey, England, on 26 December 1614 to Alice Pollard.[14]Robert Charles Anderson, in The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III, mistakenly spells her name "Collard,"
citing "English Homes 146."[15] No bibliographical list of sources was found in this work, but probably refers to Charles Banks's book The Planters of the Commonwealth; a study of the emigrants and emigration in colonial times: to which are added lists of passengers to Boston and to the Bay Colony; the ships which brought them; their English homes, and the places of their settlement in Massachusetts. 1620-1640. The marriage is not referred to in this work, but Alice's surname is certainly "Pollard" in the parish register.
She died by 1634.
He married (2) in St. Olave parish, Surrey, England, on 21 November 1633 to Susanna Main. This marriage is recorded twice in London parish registers: St. Mary Whitechapel in Tower Hamlets ("Timothie Hatherly of St Olives Southwarke and Susanna [probably Main, possibly Mam - the handwriting is open to some interpretation, but see the next record] of St Buttolphs extra Aldgate," 21 November 1633)[16] and St. John Wapping in Tower Hamlets ("Timothy Hatherlie of St. Olives Southw. and Susanna Main of St. Buttolphs extra Aldgate" with the same date).[17] Susanna died after 22 January 1640/1 "and perhaps after 3 Mar 1640/1, when she joined Timothy in a deed ..."[18][19]
He married (3) after 1641, Lydia (Huckstep) Tilden, widow of Nathaniel Tilden;[20] She died in 1672.[citation needed]
Death
Timothy Hatherly ("Mr. Thmothy Hatherlee")[21] died Scituate, 24 October 1666.[22]
Last Will & Testament
Timothy Hatherly made his will 20 December 1664 (or 12 December 1664);[23] it was proved 30 October 1666.[24][25]
Joseph Tilden refused to act as executor of the estate, and on 31 October 1666, he was appointed administrator.[26]
Inventory was taken 9 November 1666.[27][28]
In his will, Hatherly made various bequests,
to my wife Lydia Hatherly
to Edward Jenkens his wife and children...
to Nicholas Wade his wife and children...
to Sussanna wife of Willam Brookes and her children... (and aqcuit her of her first husband's debt to me...
to Timothy Foster and to Elizabeth Foster
to Mr. Thomas Hanford
to Fear Robinson, now wife of Samuell Baker...
to the other three children of Isacke Robinson, John, Isacke and Mercye
to Lydia Garrett my wife's daughter...
to the four children of the said Lydia Grrett
to Gorge Sutton his wife ad children
to the wife of William Bassett my wife's daughter
to the widow Preble my wife's daughter
to Lydia Lapham...
to Thomas Lapham
to Stephen Tilden...
to Lydia Hatch the daughter of William Hatch
to my trusty and well-beloved friend Joseph Tildin
Children
By first wife:
Elizabeth, daughter of Timothey Hatherley, a feltman, was bp 31 December 1615 at St Olave Bermondsey.[29] Elizabeth was buried [day cut off film] September 1617, St. Olave Bermondsey, Southwark.[30]
Nathaniel Hatherly, bp St. Olave, Southwark, 16 July 1618. Church Record reads Nathaniell son of Timothey Hatherley bp 26 July 1618 St, Olave Bermondsey.[31] Nathaniell son of Tymothey Hatherley buried [day cut off film] July 1620 St. Olave, Bermondsey, Southwark.[32][33]
Research Notes
Timothy Hatherly was an uncle of Margaret (Hanford) Robinson, according to Robert Charles Anderson in his sketch of Margaret's husband, Isaac Robinson. Note "Isaac Robinson and Margaret Hanford were contracted [for marriage] at the home of Mr. Heatherlye's..." [34]
↑ 1.01.1
"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J3F4-3FD : 30 December 2014, Tymothie Hatherley, 29 Sep 1588); citing WINKLEIGH,DEVON,ENGLAND, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 917,554, 917,555.
↑ Citing "M&JCH 18:74" and "Stevens-Miller 490," Robert Charles Anderson, The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III, 3 vols., 1995, 2:876-881, in particular part, p. 879; digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors.
↑ Robert Charles Anderson, The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III, 3 vols., 1995, 2:876-881, in particular part, p. 879; digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors.
↑ Roland G Usher, The Pilgrims and their History (New York: MacMillan Co, 1918), 95, 152-3, "July 1627 Undertakers"; digital images, InternetArchive.
↑ Eugene Aubrey Stratton, Plymouth Colony: Its History and People, 1620-1691 (Salt Lake City: Ancestry Publishing, 1986), Appendix F, p. 419.
↑ Robert Charles Anderson, The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III, 3 vols., 1995, 2:876-881, in particular part, p. 880; digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors.
↑ Citing "Bradford 252, 304," Robert Charles Anderson, The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III, 3 vols., 1995, 2:876-881, in particular part, p. 880; digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors.
↑ Robert Charles Anderson, The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III, 3 vols., 1995, 2:876-881, in particular part, p. 880; digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors.
↑ Citing "W[inthrop's Journal] 1:70; W[inthrop's] P[apers] 3:27, 32" and "Bradford 227-233," Robert Charles Anderson, The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III, 3 vols., 1995, 2:876-881, in particular part, p. 880-81; digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors. Anderson notes that Bradford has this date a year earlier, "but his chronology for 1630 is 'muddled' ..."
↑ Citing "WJ 1:94" and "Bradford 252" in Robert Charles Anderson, The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III, 3 vols., 1995, 2:876-881, in particular part, p. 880-81; digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors.
↑ Citing "W 1:119, WP 3:93, 98-99, 116," Robert Charles Anderson, The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III, 3 vols., 1995, 2:876-881, in particular part, p. 880; digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors.
↑ Citing "Bradford 252." Robert Charles Anderson, The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III, 3 vols., 1995, 2:876-881, in particular part, p. 881; digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors.
↑ Citing "PCR 1:30, 31" and "NEHGR 9:279," Robert Charles Anderson, The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III, 3 vols., 1995, 2:876-881, in particular part, p. 881; digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors.
↑ Robert Charles Anderson, in The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III, 3 vols., 1995, 2:876-881, in particular part, p. 879; digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors.
↑ "London, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812," Ancestry.com image database online $ [1].
↑ "London, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812," Ancestry.com image database online $ [2].
↑ "Massachusetts Land Records, 1620-1986," images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9Z7-5C51 : 22 May 2014), Plymouth > Deeds 1620-1651 vol 1 > image 96 of 239; county courthouses and offices, Massachusetts.
↑ Citing "NEHGR 9:279" and "PCR 12:70," Robert Charles Anderson, The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III, 3 vols., 1995, 2:876-881, in particular part, p. 879; digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors. Anderson writes, "[W]e are not told specifically if she acknowledged [the deed] or not."
↑ Citing "Joseph Neal Anc 55-59," Robert Charles Anderson, The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III, 3 vols., 1995, 2:876-881, in particular part, p. 880; digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors.
↑Vital Records of Scituate, Massachusetts, to the end of the year 1850 (Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1909), 2 vols., 2:396; digital images, Hathi Trust.
↑ Robert Charles Anderson, The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III, 3 vols., 1995, 2:876-881, in particular part, p. 879; digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors.
↑ Citing "fol. 34," George Ernest Bowman, "Plymouth Colony Wills and Inventories," The Mayflower Descendant 16 (1914):158-60 for Timothy Hatherley's Will dated 12 December 1664; proved 30 October 1666; digital images, Hathi Trust.
↑ Citing "MD 16:158-160," Robert Charles Anderson, The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III, 3 vols., 1995, 2:876-881, in particular part, p. 879; digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors.
↑ "Massachusetts, Plymouth County, Probate Records, 1633-1967," images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L97D-VQ7K : 8 March 2023), Wills 1633-1686 vol 1-4 > image 240 of 616; State Archives, Boston.
↑ Citing "PCR 4:138" and "PCR 4:155," Robert Charles Anderson, The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III, 3 vols., 1995, 2:876-881, in particular part, p. 879; digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors.
↑ Citing "MD 16:163, citing PCPR 2:2:38-40," Robert Charles Anderson, The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III, 3 vols., 1995, 2:876-881, in particular part, p. 879; digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors.
↑ "Massachusetts, Plymouth County, Probate Records, 1633-1967," images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G97D-V31T : 8 March 2023), Wills 1633-1686 vol 1-4 > image 245 of 616; State Archives, Boston.
↑ The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III. (Online database: AmericanAncestors.org, New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2010), (Originally Published as: New England Historic Genealogical Society. Robert Charles Anderson, The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III, 3 vols., 1995). citing NEHGR 9:286. subscribers
↑ The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III. (Online database: AmericanAncestors.org, New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2010), (Originally Published as: New England Historic Genealogical Society. Robert Charles Anderson, The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III, 3 vols., 1995). sketch of Isaac Robinson.subscribers
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Taylor, Edward R. & West, Randy A., Updates to the Ancestry of Brothers Thomas¹ and William¹ Hatch of Scituate, Massachusetts, The New England Historical & Genealogical Register (NEHGS, Boston, Mass., 2020) Vol. 174, Page 307.
I am the Archivist in Scituate Massachusetts - wanted to correct the record of Timothy's second marriage - it was January 11, 1634. See Rev Lothrop's Scituate and Barnstable Church records.
Jody, thank you for your interest in Timothy's profile here on WikiTree. I'm wondering what you mean by "correct the record"? The profile above states, "He married (2) by 11 January 1634/5 Susan ______" The date, 11 Jan 1634/5 is the date that "Mr. Hetherly and his wife joyned" the church in Scituate, not the date they married. Thus they had married by that date. Or am I misunderstanding what you're saying?
I have saved the profile, but did receive a warning:
Warning: Check the data.
A father's death date (Hatherly-1 died 1588) should not be more than nine months before one of his children's birth dates (Hatherly-4 born 29 Sep 1588).
I don't see why the system thought there was a problem--WikiTree has his father's death as "after 1588," while Timothy was born "before 29 Sept 1588."
Is the warning generated because we don't know just how far "before" 29 Sept 1588 dear Timothy was born?
The system does not understand before and after very well. You just need to ignore the warning. I don't think we can improve the dates in such a way as to make the warning go away unless you want to change the father's death date to "after February 1588". I don't like to do that as it implies we have a record from February and implies a precision that we do not have.
Found some church records (two marriages, one burial and one bp) in St Olave Bermondsey, Southwark...and for his two children (bp and burial for each child) ...and added them into notes with the weblink to each.
Since this is a Protected Profile, I am not making a change. However, the birthplace Tenterdon, Kent, seems to be wrong (that is his wife's birthplace). Shouldn't Timothy's birthplace be Winkleigh, Devonshire? See this source: "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J3F4-3FD : 11 February 2018, Tymothie Hatherley, 29 Sep 1588); citing , index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 917,554, 917,555.
https://www.sturgislibrary.org/rev-john-lothrop/ http://www.bluemoon.net/~tammy/genealogy/churchrecords.html
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uiuo.ark:/13960/t0pt04z3x&view=1up&seq=285
Warning: Check the data. A father's death date (Hatherly-1 died 1588) should not be more than nine months before one of his children's birth dates (Hatherly-4 born 29 Sep 1588).
I don't see why the system thought there was a problem--WikiTree has his father's death as "after 1588," while Timothy was born "before 29 Sept 1588."
Is the warning generated because we don't know just how far "before" 29 Sept 1588 dear Timothy was born?
Would it be okay if I brush it up a bit? --Gene