Johann Heide
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Johann Peter Heide (abt. 1728 - aft. 1810)

Johann Peter Heide
Born about in Neubrandenberg, Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, Germanymap
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died after in Grimm, Saratov, Russiamap
Profile last modified | Created 4 Jul 2016
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Contents

Biography

Volga German
Johann Heide is a Volga German.
Johann Heide has German Roots.

Family #21 in the 1767 Grimm census.

Family #105 in the 1775 Grimm census.

Family #45 in the 1798 Grimm census.

Birth Date and Place

  • about 1730
  • Neubrandenberg, Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, Germany

Parents

Marriage

Children

Death Date and Place

  • after 1798
  • Grimm, Saratov, Russia




There was only one Heide family listed in the Kulberg Lists: Johann Peter von der Heide. [1] There are only two Heide families listed in the 1798 census for all the Volga German colonies, and both are in Grimm. [2] It is reasonable to conclude that the Johann Heide in the 1767 Grimm Census is a match with Johann Peter von der Heide in the Kulberg Lists. The Johann Heide in the 1767 census is a match with Johann Heide in the 1775 and 1798 census. The second Heide listing in the 1798 census is for his daughter Katharina Heide who married Johannes Schröder and is listed in family #144.

Johann Peter von der Heide in the Kulberg Lists is married to Maria Catharina and the couple has four children.

Kulberg Reports [3]

"Heide von der Johann Peter, Lutheran, farmer from Darmstadt, document number 6055, wife: Maria Catharina, children: Johann, 14, Anna Margaretha, 8, Elisabeth, 4, and Anna Maria, 3."


Neither Maria Catharina nor any of their children appear in the 1767 census, just one year after immigrating from Germany to Russia. Although divorce existed in 1700s, it was extremely rare. None of the children were old enough to marry, although his son Johann was 15 and conceivably could have been living in another family for one reason or another. The most likely scenario, however, is that his wife and children did not survive either the winter in Saint Petersburg, or the journey from Saint Petersberg to the Volga region.

By 1767, Johann Heide, as he now identified himself, was married to Dorothea Rusch, a woman 18 years his junior. She was probably the daughter of another immigrant whom he married after the death of his wife. The only child in their family was two week old Anna Dorothea. If his wife had a full-term pregnancy, she would have become pregnant in October of 1766, while the immigrants were still in Saint Petersburg. Minimally, his first wife perished in the Russian capital, while his children may have died at any time between 15 September 1766 and August of 1767, when the first census was taken.


1767 Grimm Census [4]

Family # 21
Head of the Household Johannes Heide, age 39, Lutheran craftsman from Brandenburg.
Spouse Elisabeth Dorothea, age 20
Child #1 Anna Dorothea, 2 weeks old


Research by descendant Sergei Heide shows that Johannes Heide was born about 1728. [5] Johannes told the 1767 census taker he was a handwerker or craftsman from Brandenburg, but he was probably from Neubrandenburg, near Mecklenburg-Vorpommern. Neubrandenburg had a Scandinavian population which would account for his surname being written as von der Heide in the Kulberg Lists, which was not a common surname prefix in those records. Heide coming from Neubrandenburg doesn't square with the information in the Kulberg Reports, which say he was from Darmstadt. [6] The two locations are more than 400 miles apart, so we are not talking about a suburb or nearby town. That original group of travelers may have stopped in Neubrandenburg before reaching Lübeck, their port of departure for Russia, [7] or the Heides may have been able to join the group from Darmstadt by simply meeting up with them in Lübeck, only about 160 miles from Neubrandenburg. [8]


By 1775, Johann and Dorothea Heide had 5 children ranging from 8 years to 1 week old.


1775 Grimm Census [9]

Family # 105
Head of the Household Johann Heide, age 45
Spouse Maria Dorotea, age 29
Child #1 Johann Philip, 1 week old
Child #2 Georg Heinrich, 1 year 6 months
Child #3 Anna Dorotea, age 8
Child #4 Maria Katarina, age 6


By 1798, there were 7 children living with Johann Heide and his wife. The names of three older children are missing, most likely because they married and were living in a different household. Of course this does not include the four children who did not survive the journey to Grimm.


1798 Grimm Census [10]

Family # 45
Head of the Household Johann Heide, age 70
Spouse Dorotea Rusch, age 52
Child #1 Georg Christof, age 20
Child #2 Ernst Friedrich, age 15
Child #3 Adolph, age 7
Child #4 Maria Katarina, age 29
Child #5 Louisa Margareta, age 20
Child #6 Katarina, age 18
Child #7 Anna Barbara, age 11



Sources

  1. Pleve, Igor. List of Colonists to Russia in 1766, "Reports by Ivan Kulberg," Ministry of Education and Science of Russian Federation, Saratov State Technical University; Published in Saratov, Russia 2010; page 383, Johann Peter von der Heide, Lutheran farmer from Darmstadt, document number 6055, wife: Maria Catharina, children: Johann, 14, Anna Margaretha, 8, Elisabeth, 4, Anna Sophia, 1.5.
  2. Mai, Brent Alan; 1798 Census of the German Colonies along the Volga, Volume 1; American Historical Society of Germans from Russia, Lincoln, Nebraska; Published 1999 and 2005; page 1507.
  3. Pleve, Igor. List of Colonists to Russia in 1766, "Reports by Ivan Kulberg," Ministry of Education and Science of Russian Federation, Saratov State Technical University; Published in Saratov, Russia 2010; page 383, Johann Peter von der Heide, Lutheran farmer from Darmstadt, document number 6055, wife: Maria Catharina, children: Johann, 14, Anna Margaretha, 8, Elisabeth, 4, Anna Sophia, 1.5.
  4. Pleve, Igor. Einwanderung in das Wolgagebiet 1764-1767, Herausgegeben von Alfred Eisfeld under Mitarbeit von Sabine Eichwald, Published by the Nordost-Instsitut - 38085 Göttingen, 2005; page 76, family #21, Johannes Heide, age 39, wife Elisabeth Dorothea, age 20, daughter Anna Dorothea, 2 weeks old.
  5. Personal research, family documents, and files of descendant Sergei Heide, Russia. Copies of the original and translated pages he sent to me are attached as images to this profile.
  6. Darmstadt to Neubrandenburg, 437 miles, see: https://tinyurl.com/y95o833v.
  7. Googlemaps.com, Darmstadt to Lübek, 360 miles, see: https://tinyurl.com/yajakl6t.
  8. Googlemaps.com, Neubrandenburg to Lübeck, 160 miles, see: https://tinyurl.com/y8juwkx6.
  9. The 1775 and 1798 Census of the German Colony on the Volga, Lesnoy Karamysh, also known as Grimm; Published by the American Historical Society of Germans from Russia, Lincoln, NE, USA; Published 1995; family #105 in the 1775 census, Johann Heide, age 45; family #45 in the 1798 census, Johann Heide, age 45, Maria Dorotea, age 29, Johann Philip, 1 week old, Georg Heinrich, 1 year 6 months, Anna Dorotea, age 8, and Maria Katarina, age 6.
  10. The 1775 and 1798 Census of the German Colony on the Volga, Lesnoy Karamysh, also known as Grimm; Published by the American Historical Society of Germans from Russia, Lincoln, NE, USA; Published 1995; family #105 in the 1775 census, Johann Heide, age 45; family #45 in the 1798 census, Johann Heide, age 70, Maria Dorotea, age 52, Georg Christof, age 20, Ernst Friedrich, age 15, Adolph, age 7, Maria Katarina, age 29, Louisa Margareta, age 20, Katarina, age 18, Anna Barbara, age 11.


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