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Rick Heiser

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Biography

This profile is part of the Clezie  Name Study.


An autosomal DNA test done in 2019 says my ancient ancestors were about 52% Hunter-Gatherers, 38% Farmers and 10% Metal Age invaders.

They were entirely European, coming mainly from West and Central Europe (79%), Northeast Europe (12%), and Southeast Europe (9%). The only puzzle is that last group. I’ve got no known ancestors from Southeast Europe. Who were they; how long ago?

My immediate ancestors - the last 3 or 4 generations - were all Northern European migrants to the New World:

Clezie ancestors from Berwickshire, Scotland moved to Edinburgh, then left Scotland after baby twins tragically died from measles; they migrated to Canada in 1832, settled near Montréal, later moved to Toronto, then across the Great Lakes to Cleveland (cousins in Scotland variously wrote the name Clazie, Clazey, Clazy, Clezy);

Lockhart ancestors left Renfrewshire, Scotland and migrated to Canada around 1830; William Lockhart was shown with his family in the 1831 census at Saint-Philippe, Québec, near Montréal; he died, his widow remarried and moved across the Great Lakes to New York;

Megert family members - 13 together - left the canton of Bern, Switzerland in 1850, sailed on the ship “St. Nicholas” from the French port of Le Havre during the Christmas season; most of them later added “h” to the name making it Megerth, for unknown reasons;

Heiser ancestors came from Hessen, in west central Germany, where they had been farmers and shepherds for centuries; they migrated to the United States in 1865, just as the Civil War was ending, and settled at Cleveland, Ohio.

Schwab ancestors from Württemberg, in southwest Germany arrived in New York about 1872; they intermarried with other German migrants and ended up living at Cleveland;

Żarnowska was my Polish grandmother’s family name when she migrated to the U.S. in 1903, following her sister, who left home a year earlier; they settled at Cleveland; Żarnowski is the spelling for males, Żarnowska for females;

Tomoń was my Polish grandfather's name but Poland had ceased to exist, swallowed up by its neighbours, so my ancestors were Austro-Hungarian subjects when they migrated in 1903; they met other Poles at Cleveland and soon married.

Other family surnames prominent among my ancestors were Bogaczewicz and Cieśla in Poland; Henderson and Lockie in Scotland; Schenk and Rupp in Germany; Iseli and Stalder in Switzerland.


I'm doing a one-name-study on the Clezie - Clazey - Clazie - Clazy - Clezy name, found here: http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Clezie_Name_Study

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  • Autosomal DNA test taken in 2019 through www.familytreedna.com

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Thanks for the Jervis info. Looking at the document, she was in transit to Shanghai, China.
posted by Joe Farler
Rick,

I see you initiated a match of Margaret Turner (Turner-32281) with Margaret Turner (Turner-5746) to make her a wife of James Newton. Do you have any evidence? [wr]

posted by William Ross III
No, William. A man named James Newton, who lived at or near Duns in early 1800s, married a woman named Margaret Turner, according to a researcher who has now died. No middle names, so positive identification remains uncertain. That's why they were set as unmerged matches; because they look like they might be the correct people. If someone else has clearer evidence about identity, they can either accept or reject the match.
posted by Rick Heiser
Rick,

Sorry, I can't make sense out of your comments. If you have no evidence then why are you initiating an unmerged match? Who is the anonymous researcher that has now died and where is his/her evidence? Your Turner-5746 record states that Margaret Turner was born about 1780 in Berwickshire, with no evidence, and that she married James Newton in Berwickshire in 1795, also with no evidence. I searched ScotlandsPeople. There are only 4 marriages during the decade 1790 to 1800 in all parishes in Berwickshire with a marriage where a spouse is named Turner, and only 2 of these marriages featured a bride named Turner, and neither of them was named Margaret. Also, there are only 6 marriages in all parishes in Berwickshire during the same decade with a spouse named Newton/Neuton, none with the forename James. On ScotlandsPeople there is a Margaret Turner born in Berwickshire in 1776, did you research her as a potential spouse for your James Newton? Duns Parish in Berwickshire is SEVEN parishes away from Yetholm Parish in Roxburgh County, where the Margaret Turner I maintain was born. There were 34 brides named Margaret Turner in all of Scotland between 1794 and 1820. Nine married a groom named James, none with the surname Newton. I've looked and found no evidence for your assertion. I'm asking you a second time for evidence for the unmatched merge you have initiated. [wr]

posted by William Ross III
edited by William Ross III
As I said: I've got no evidence. They were set as "unmerged matches" - so you or anyone else is free to either confirm or reject the match.
posted by Rick Heiser
Rick,

What I see is a frivolous abuse of the unmerged match feature. Having looked at your page before I responded, I suspected as much. Which is why I conducted this discussion entirely on your page. Rather than waste my time forcing me to reject a nuisance unmerged match that you admit has no evidence, please better focus your time by actually sourcing your several unsourced profiles. With best regards, [wr]

posted by William Ross III
Hi Rick. A bit of advice. You only need to set a rejected match if the two people might be confused for each other. So, for example, there was no need to set Margaret Smallhorn of Ireland and Margaret Rowat of Scotland as rejected matches because it's not necessary to prevent them getting mixed up. The 100 or so rejected matches on Rowat's profile do more harm than good.
Hi Philip. When a Wikitree search turns up names as potential matches, in my view it is most appropriate to reject them, rather than simply ignore them. I’ve had people attempt to “match” or "merge" profiles that were clearly not the same person but simply had a similar name. I think it is appropriate to mark false matches as rejected, so there is no doubt.

Sarah Rowat married a man who was a 3rd cousin of my great-grandfather. The cousins lived on different continents, never met or even knew about each other. It would be devilishly difficult to "un-merge" a premature match, so I'm simply not going to do it. You, or someone else who is knowledgeable about the Rowats, are free to do what you think best.

posted by Rick Heiser
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Thanks for the comment on East Lothian
posted by Kay Simpson
Thanks for all the updates!
posted by Shirley Heiser

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