13 Sep 1670 ondertrouw Compareerden Hans Helmis van Lubeck varensgesel oud 26 jare ouders doot geast. met Boij Magnus woont opd Geldersekaij & Gerretie Willems van Sardam oud 19 jare geast. met haer groot moeder Annetie Mijnders woont ind Houttuinenrried[8]
Ondertrouw Hans Helmis & Gerretje Willems 13 Sept 1670 [9]
Death
Date: Hans Helm passed away about 1682 [4] / about 1699 [5] / before 31 December 1689 - on this day his widow was recorded on the Cape Muster Rolls as "Geertruijd Willems wed Helmes" with 1 son and 3 daughters [10]
Place: [Cape Town] [South Africa] [1] / Kaap de Goede Hoop, Kaap Kolonie [2] / Australia [4]
Sources
↑ 1.01.11.21.3 WikiTree profile Helm-426 created through the import of My Family.Pretorius.Van_Wyk.DeWaal.Potgieter.2011.ged on Sep 19, 2011 by Judy Potgieter. Source:
Title: PEGIS (Port Elizabeth Genealogical Information System) data base Repository
↑ 2.02.12.2 WikiTree profile Helm-413 created through the import of Haye-1_2011-08-17.ged on Aug 17, 2011 by Jesse Haye.
(www.ballfamilyrecords.co.uk) Webpage Ball Family Records, citing a record of retroactive ondertrouw agreement on page 303 the Huwelijksintekeningen van de Kerk, DTB 495, p.303, supplied by Corney Keller. According to the church inscription he were 26 years of age at that time.
http://www.ballfamilyrecords.co.uk/kfp/I930.html. Amsterdam - retroacta van de Burgerlijke Stand, Archief van de Burgerlijke Stand: doop-, trouw- en begraafboeken van Amsterdam (retroacta van de Burgerlijke Stand), Huwelijksintekeningen van de Kerk, DTB 495, p.303, kindly supplied by Corney Keller, page 303. Seen and added by Louis Heyman on 8 Nov 2015.
DNA Connections
It may be possible to confirm family relationships with Hans by comparing test results with other carriers of his Y-chromosome or his mother's mitochondrial DNA.
However, there are no known yDNA or mtDNA test-takers in his direct paternal or maternal line.
It is likely that these autosomal DNA test-takers will share some percentage of DNA with Hans:
Not final proof but looks like there is a baptism at Lubeck in 1644 which fits the bill - "Deutschland, ausgewählte evangelische Kirchenbücher 1500-1971," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPKX-NHBY : 25 March 2023), Hanß Helmes, 14 Apr 1644; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Baptism, Lübeck, Schleswig-Holstein, Freistaat Preußen, Deutschland, , German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.
Odendaal-393 and Helm-426 appear to represent the same person because: Duplicates. Married same spouse. Odendaal is the incorrect LNAB for this profile.
The two "spouses" Hans Helm-547 (born 1642 in Vollenhove, Brederwiede, Overijssel, Netherlandsmap, has Jochim Helms-583 born 1598 in Bad Oldesloe, Stormarn, Schleswig-Holstein, Germany) and Hans Helm-426 (born 1644 in Lubeck, Germany, parents Hans Helm-495 born 1612 in [Germany?] and Margaretha (Schultze-39) Helm (1614 - 1647)) of Geertuij Willemse will be temporarily profile protected until can be established exactly which Hans Helm she was married to. There is also the possibility of two persons with the very common name of Geertruijd Willemse for that period, was to two Hans Helms ....
https://www.openarch.nl/saa:ca846648-c70c-4731-9c70-59678d9cfc47 So definitely from Lubeck very likely baptised 14 April 1644 Lubeck
100 % Speculation
I can't access to see if the mother is named.
edited by Gerhard Swart