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Hans Helm (abt. 1644 - bef. 1689)

Hans Helm aka Helmis
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Husband of — married about 13 Sep 1670 in Oude Kerk, Amsterdam, Holland, Nederlandmap [uncertain]
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Died before before about age 45 in Cape of Good Hope, South Africamap
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Biography

Name

Hans Helm [1][2] / Hans Helms [3][4][5] / Hans Helm Odendaal [6] / Hans Helmis [7]

Birth

Date: Hans Helm was born about 1640 [3][4][5] / about 1642 [1] / about 1650 [2][3] / about 1644 [7] / about 1645. [6]
Place: [Germany] [1] / Nederland [3][5] / Denmark [4][5] / Lubeck [7]

Marriage

Event date: 13 September 1670 (Ondertrouw) [7]
Event date: 28 September 1670 (Huwelijk voltreck)
Event place: Oude Kerk, Amsterdam, Netherlands [7]
Groom: Hans Helmis [7]
Bride: Gerretie Willems [7]
13 Sep 1670 ondertrouw Compareerden Hans Helmis van Lubeck varensgesel oud 26 jare ouders doot geast. met Boij Magnus woont opd Geldersekaij & Gerretie Willems van Sardam oud 19 jare geast. met haer groot moeder Annetie Mijnders woont ind Houttuinenrried [8]
Ondertrouw Hans Helmis & Gerretje Willems 13 Sept 1670 [9]

Death

Date: Hans Helm passed away about 1682 [4] / about 1699 [5] / before 31 December 1689 - on this day his widow was recorded on the Cape Muster Rolls as "Geertruijd Willems wed Helmes" with 1 son and 3 daughters [10]
Place: [Cape Town] [South Africa] [1] / Kaap de Goede Hoop, Kaap Kolonie [2] / Australia [4]

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 WikiTree profile Helm-426 created through the import of My Family.Pretorius.Van_Wyk.DeWaal.Potgieter.2011.ged on Sep 19, 2011 by Judy Potgieter. Source:
    • Title: PEGIS (Port Elizabeth Genealogical Information System) data base Repository
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 WikiTree profile Helm-413 created through the import of Haye-1_2011-08-17.ged on Aug 17, 2011 by Jesse Haye.
  3. 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 WikiTree profile Helms-336 created through the import of wikitree upload.ged on Jul 19, 2012 by Arrie Klopper.
  4. 4.0 4.1 4.2 4.3 4.4 WikiTree profile Helm-519 created by Pieter Meyer, Apr 18, 2013.
  5. 5.0 5.1 5.2 5.3 5.4 WikiTree profile Helm-525 created by Pieter Meyer, Mar 22, 2013.
  6. 6.0 6.1 WikiTree profile Odendaal-393 created by Karina Mulder through the import of export-Ancestors.ged on Jul 31, 2014. Source:
  7. 7.0 7.1 7.2 7.3 7.4 7.5 7.6 Seen and entered June 8, 2015 by Susanna de Bruyn. Sources:
  8. Source:
    • http://www.ballfamilyrecords.co.uk/kfp/I930.html. Amsterdam - retroacta van de Burgerlijke Stand, Archief van de Burgerlijke Stand: doop-, trouw- en begraafboeken van Amsterdam (retroacta van de Burgerlijke Stand), Huwelijksintekeningen van de Kerk, DTB 495, p.303, kindly supplied by Corney Keller, page 303. Seen and added by Louis Heyman on 8 Nov 2015.
  9. Source: Seen and added by Philip van der Walt Jul 29, 2018.
  10. Source:




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Hans Helmis van Lubeck notice to marry 13 September 1670

https://www.openarch.nl/saa:ca846648-c70c-4731-9c70-59678d9cfc47 So definitely from Lubeck very likely baptised 14 April 1644 Lubeck

posted by Phillipp Weyers
No proof of parents attached here.

100 % Speculation

posted by Phillipp Weyers
Not final proof but looks like there is a baptism at Lubeck in 1644 which fits the bill - "Deutschland, ausgewählte evangelische Kirchenbücher 1500-1971," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPKX-NHBY : 25 March 2023), Hanß Helmes, 14 Apr 1644; images digitized and records extracted by Ancestry; citing Baptism, Lübeck, Schleswig-Holstein, Freistaat Preußen, Deutschland, , German Lutheran Collection, various parishes, Germany.

I can't access to see if the mother is named.

posted by Gerhard Swart
edited by Gerhard Swart
Odendaal-393 and Helm-426 appear to represent the same person because: Duplicates. Married same spouse. Odendaal is the incorrect LNAB for this profile.
posted by Philip van der Walt
Is somebody any closer yet to which of the two Hans Helms is the correct spouse?
The two "spouses" Hans Helm-547 (born 1642 in Vollenhove, Brederwiede, Overijssel, Netherlandsmap, has Jochim Helms-583 born 1598 in Bad Oldesloe, Stormarn, Schleswig-Holstein, Germany) and Hans Helm-426 (born 1644 in Lubeck, Germany, parents Hans Helm-495 born 1612 in [Germany?] and Margaretha (Schultze-39) Helm (1614 - 1647)) of Geertuij Willemse will be temporarily profile protected until can be established exactly which Hans Helm she was married to. There is also the possibility of two persons with the very common name of Geertruijd Willemse for that period, was to two Hans Helms ....
posted by Philip van der Walt
Helm-765 and Helm-426 do not represent the same person because: Diffirent fathers and death date!
posted by Jesse Haye
Helm-765 and Helm-426 appear to represent the same person because: Seems to be the same person. Merging Helm-764 and Helm-425
posted by Wilhelm Venter

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