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Maria Magdalena (Helm) Thurn (1810 - 1884)

Maria Magdalena Thurn formerly Helm
Born in Neudorf, Glückstal, Odessa, South Russiamap
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Wife of — married before 1831 in Neudorf, Glückstal, Odessa, South Russiamap
[children unknown]
Died at age 73 in Neudorf, Glückstal, Odessa, South Russiamap
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Black Sea Germans
Maria (Helm) Thurn was a Black Sea German.


Maria Magdalena was born on December 16, 1810 in the village of Neudorf in the Glückstal district of the Odessa area and Black Sea region of South Russia to Johann Friedrich Helm and Maria Margaretha (Krein) Helm. She was the first of her father's 13 children and the only child of her mother's.[1][2]


Sometime before 1831, around the age of 19, Maria married Johann Georg Thurn (1807-1885) in Neudorf.[2]

  1. Friedrich (1831-1896)
  2. Johann Jakob (1833-1834)
  3. Christina Barbara (1835-unknown)
  4. Georg Friedrich (1837-1918)
  5. Magdalena (1839-1877)


On November 23, 1884, at the age of 73, Maria passed away in Neudorf.[1][2]

Census Data

1816 Neudorf Census:
Age 5, living in Neudorf, South Russia with her parents and 2 siblings.[3]
Family #43
Helm, Friedrich 30, aus: Oberhausen/Koblenz, seine Frau Margareta 22, seine Kinder Maria Magdalena 5, Eva, 1815 gestorben, Friedrich Karl 3 1/2, Johann Konrad 1/2.

1858 Neudorf Census:
Age 48, living in Neudorf, South Russia with her husband, 3 children, and their families.[4]
Family #125
Georg Thurn 50 - Wife: Magdalena 48
Sons: Friedrich 27 - Wife: Margaretha 24
     Son: Friedrich 1
Georg 21
Daughter: Magdalena 19

Research Notes

Birthdate calculated from age on burial record: 78y, 3m, 15d.[1]


  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 "Россия, дубликаты Лютеранских метрических книг, 1833-1885," database with images, FamilySearch ( : 21 May 2014), Kherson > Tiraspol′ > Glückstal: Neu-Berezina > 1884: Births, marriages, deaths ( 828-14/261) > image 57 of 61; Russland Historischen Staatsarchiv, St. Petersburg (Konsistorium Petersburg. Russian State Historical Archive), St. Petersburg. Entry #46
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 Glückstal Colonies Points of Origin, Margaret Freeman and Gwen Pritzkau, Edited & Annotated by Thomas A. Stangl (2008); Gluckstalers DVD; Glückstal Colonies Research Association, Page 166, Helm.
    Transcript: TAS – Helm family found in S.Prussia – father, Leonhard Helm, arrived 7.1803, 4 persons, in Kolonie Hilsbach (Czarny Las), Amt Krzepice, near Czenstochau. Kolonie Kuhlhausen was nearby and was a major departure point for emigrants to Russia from that area.

    Johann Friedrich Georg Helm (in 1816 NRL:43; *ca 3.2.1790 Oberhausen bei Kirn-Rh, +6.9.1861; in 1858 NRL:160) married his unknown first wife in Kol. Hilsbach before departure for Neudorf (oldest daughter, Maria Magdalena, *ca 16.12.1810, may be from first wife). He remarried ca 1811 to Maria Margaretha Krein (1816 NRL:69; *21.11.1792 Henau by Kirn-Rh, +5.10.1864). The Konrad Krein family had arrived in S.Prussia with the Helm family and also traveled together to Neudorf – see Krein.

    Surviving children of Johann Friedrich Georg Helm & Maria Margaretha KreinMaria Magdalena Helm (probably daughter of unknown first wife; +23.11.1884 N, *ca 16.12.1810 N; married to Johann Georg Thurn, in 1858 NRL:246, age 48); Friedrich Karl Helm (*ca 1812; married on 12.11.1835 to Anna Barbara Dörr, in 1858 KRL:253, age 46); Elisabeth Helm (*ca 1.6.1821, +23.10.1842, single); Ludwig Helm (*ca 1823; married on 20.11.1845 to Catharina Schauer, in 1858 NRL:160, age 36); Michael Helm (*ca 1828; married on 21.11.1850 to Barbara Martel, in 1858 NRL:160, age 31); Jacob Helm (*ca 13.9.1829, +21.2.1875; married on 5.2.1852 to Carolina Schauer, in 1858 NRL:160, age 29).
  3. The Emigration from Germany to Russia in the Years 1763 to 1862 Volume I, Karl Stumpp, American Historical Society of Germans from Russia, Lincoln, NE, Published 1993; Neudorf, gegr. 1808 (Evang.) Revisionsliste 1816: Nr. 1--121; 1858: Nr. 122--252.
  4. Black Sea German Russian Census Volume I, A supplement to the "Stumpp Book"; Germans from Russia Heritage Society, Bismarck, ND, Published 2003; Neudorf, gegr. 1808 (Evang.); Glückstal Gebiet; Revisionliste 1816/58 (Census List) – Stumpp page 699; 10th Revisionliste – 1 January 1858

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