John Hill
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John Hill (abt. 1745 - 1817)

Capt. John Hill
Born about in North Carolinamap [uncertain]
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
[spouse(s) unknown]
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Died at about age 72 in Greene, Georgia, United Statesmap
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Biography

1776 Project
Soldier John Hill served with North Carolina during the American Revolution.
Daughters of the American Revolution
John Hill is a DAR Patriot Ancestor, A055843.

John Hill was born about 1745, probably in North Carolina. At his death in 1817, he had a claim to land in North Carolina, possibly from an inheritance.

Capt. John Hill lived on his 862.5-acre tract of land along Richland Creek, a tributary of the Oconee River, in what is now Greene County, Georgia, from about 1787 until his death in late 1817.

Richland Creek flowed north from the Oconee River, the hotly-contested boundary between the Creek Nation and Georgia during this period. During the Oconee War of 1786-1796, the Creeks made numerous raids on white settlements, and raids on John Hill’s plantation resulted in the theft of horses, cattle, and hogs between 1788 and 1792. [1] John Hill's land on Richland Creek lay close to the county seat of Greensborough, and so he and his family were in close proximity to the Creek raid made on the settlement in November 1787 in which they burned the wooden courthouse and a few cabins.

We have no reliable indication for precisely when John Hill's birth occurred. His eldest known child appears to have been born around 1763-1765, which places John Hill's birth no later than the mid-1740s. Given that he appears to have remained active until his death in late 1817, his birth probably occurred between 1740 and 1745.

John Hill prospered in the three decades between his 1785 receipt of land on Richland Creek and his death in 1817, and he left a large estate. His wife (or wives) predeceased him, and we have no information on her identity.

John Hill's heirs had an extended legal battle with the executor of his will that lasted for several decades after Hill's death. Although he died in 1817, the Greene County Court did not finally discharge his executor until 1846. [2]

Sources

  1. Indian Depredation Claims, File II, Reference Services, RG 4-2-46, Georgia Archives. Claims of Joseph L. Hill, John Hill, and Robert Rea.
  2. Greene County GA Will Book 4, pp. 34-36 (will of John Hill).




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Thanks for updating the bio, Tim. Since the previous comments I have seen some of the records for your John Hill in Greene County. Have you verified his military service yet? There were so many men named John Hill that it is often difficult to sort out which records belong to a particular one of them.

Regards,

George Farris

posted by George Farris
Hi George. It is difficult to sort out the John Hills since there were at least four men living in post-Revolutionary War Wilkes County by that name. However, these facts stand out:

1) "My" John Hill of Greene County, Georgia owned 862.5 acres of land on Richland Creek in Greene County. The earliest surviving tax digests show him paying taxes on this 862.5 acres of land in 1788-1789, although the official grant for the land wasn't made until 1791 (and for 860 acres). The grant stated the land lay in Washington County, but that goes back to the warrant on which the grant was based.

2) 6 June 1785 - John Hill was issued a warrant for 862.5 acres of land in Washington County, with the warrant signed by Gen. Samuel Elbert and Lt. Col. Elijah Clark, both officers in the Wilkes County Militia. I can't get beyond the very odd total of 862.5 acres, which happens to be the sum of:

575 acres - awarded men who served as "Captain in Militia"

287.5 acres - awarded men who were Georgia citizens

We know that "my" John Hill wasn't the man who served as commander of Fort Martin, but the Rev. War Pension application of Joseph Newton (R7635) details that he and his stepfather, Capt. John Hill, left Georgia after it was overrun by Indians and fled to North Carolina. He describes how Capt. John Hill formed a company that served there in action leading up to the Battle of Guilford Courthouse after which they made their way to South Carolina.

I'm trying to be careful to not assume too much based upon the land warrants issued in the 1780s for 287.5 acres. Those were issued to ordinary Georgia citizens, and from what I've studied, do not indicate military service. However, the 862.5 acres is carefully documented, and the only explanation seems to be the 575 (captain in militia) plus 287.5 (ordinary Georgia citizen).

I have not found more information.

Have you uncovered anything else on your John Hill?

Thanks,

Tim

posted by Tim Hudson
edited by Tim Hudson
Tim,

It seems to make sense that the John Hill who was the stepfather of Joseph Newton was your Greene County, GA ancestor. His Washington County land grant does seem to indicate that he was a militia captain somewhere. It's almost impossible to "prove" our assumptions regarding the John Hills from that chaotic era so we do the best we can with the information available.

Of the references that I think are to my own ancestor, the John Hill of Warren County, the one item in which I have the least confidence is the 1777 Light Horse Cavalry account which I attributed to him primarily because of the presence of the Joshua Hill who I think was his son. But we know there was also another Joshua Hill who was probably the son of the Greene County John Hill. The question that I don't think I can answer is when did the Greene County John leave Georgia and return to NC. Was it before or after 1777?

I don't think I have much additional information since we last corresponded. I think my ancestral John Hill must have died soon after moving to Jackson County GA in 1801. In the 1802 tax list his son, John Hill, Jr. was listed separately in Jackson County with land in Warren County but was also listed as trustee for the land of John Hill, Sr. who must have died prior to that tax list.

I have summarized the information about that John Hill along with that about some others of my ancestors and there families in a document on my website at http://www.ibi-tn.com/farris/hill-shaddock-caldwell.html The same document is also on the Jefferson County Illinois genweb site at https://iljeffer.whalen-family.org

George

posted by George Farris
Hi George,

Thank you for the information and the link to your excellent and detailed work on the Hill, Shaddock, and other families. I look forward to studying it in more detail.

To answer your question about when the Greene County John Hill left Georgia for North Carolina: all I know is based upon the Revolutionary Pension application of Joseph Newton. Since his declaration was made after many years, the details aren't completely clear. From his recollection of the details, he describes their departure from Georgia as occurring when the region was overrun by Tories and Indians. From my study of how the Revolution progressed in Georgia, that would have been in late 1779 or early 1780. He describes them moving from Georgia to Randolph County, North Carolina which was formed in 1779. Based upon the timeline that Newton gave, it appears that John Hill recruited a company of men to serve in the Randolph County NC Militia beginning in about September 1780. So from everything I've studied, John Hill of Greene County left Georgia and moved to North Carolina AFTER 1777.

Thanks,

Tim

posted by Tim Hudson
edited by Tim Hudson
This account totally intermixes the records of the two John Hills who first settled in Wilkes County. The John Hill who first shows up in Wrightsborough Township in 1774 later lived on Rocky Comfort Creek near current day Warrenton in Warren County. He was the one who built Fort Martin and served there after also serving as a Captain in the Upper Richmond Militia with many of the same men who were later at Fort Martin. The signature shown on this page for John Hill is from a letter to Governor John Martin written by John Hill from Fort Martin in February 1782. It is not the signature of the Broad River/Greene Country John Hill. The family interactions apparent in numerous Warren County records over many years clearly identifies him. In 1801 he and his wife Naomi and several other interrelated families moved to Jackson County. He never lived in Greene County and never returned to NC. There were also at least three other John Hills in Wilkes, Richmond and Hancock Counties who are often confused and their records intermixed by various researchers. I suggest that this particular writeup be removed since it hopelessly intermixes records of different people.
posted by George Farris
Hello. Thank you for your comment. I complete agree that the writeup needs significant revision/correction, for when I posted it, I mistakenly attributed the Fort Martin service of Capt. John Hill to the John Hill who later lived in Greene County. I realized this upon further study of the available records and have been working on a revision, but have been delayed in completing it. As you suggested, I will remove this information until I can finish a revision on the service of the Greene County John Hill that is more accurate.

However, you are mistaken in your statement that the signature shown on this page for John Hill is from a 1782 letter. The signature I have shown is from a promissory note signed by the Greene County John Hill in 1813. It is today preserved in his original Greene County estate papers.

Thank you,

posted by Tim Hudson
edited by Tim Hudson