Thomas Howard (b.1443 Stoke Neyland, Suffolk - d. 21 May 1524 Framlingham Castle, Framlingham, Suffolk; bur. 26 June 1524 Thetford Abbey, Norfolk) is the son of John Howard, 1st Duke of Norfolk and Catherine Moleyns.
Honours
14 Jan 1478: created Knight of the Bath (KB) by Edward IV at the marriage of the King's second son, the young Duke of York.[1]
1483: 1st Earl of Surrey
1483/5: Privy Counsellor (P.C.)
1491: Order of the Garter (K.G.)
01 Feb 1514: 2nd Duke of Norfolk (created with precedence of any previous Dukedoms of Norfolk, effectively restoring father's attainted title).
Marriage
He married twice. Both wives carried the Tilney surname at birth.
Elizabeth Tylney
m.1 (30 Apr 1472) Elizabeth, dau of Frederick Tylney and Elizabeth Cheney. Issue:
Edmund b. bt 1472 - 1497, d. 19 Mar 1539
Adm. Sir Edward Howard b. bt 1472 - 1497, d. 25 Apr 1513
Elizabeth b. bt 1472 - 1497, d. 3 Apr 1538
Marcella b. bt 1472 - 1497
Thomas, 3rd Duke of Norfolk+ b. 1473, d. 25 Aug 1554
Agnes Tylney
m.2 (17 Aug 1497) Agnes, dau. of Hugh Tilney.[2]. Issue:
Elizabeth b. bt 1497 - 1534, d. 18 Sep 1537
Lord Thomas Howard b. bt 1497 - 1545
Katharine b. bt 1497 - 1545, d. c May 1554
Dorothy b. bt 1497 - 1545
Anne b. abt 1497 - 1545
William, 1st Baron Howard of Effingham b. c 1510, d. 21 Jan 1572/73
Property
Manor of Hooks and Pinnacles
"In 1449 William Say, clerk, John Say and Lawrence Cheyne his [father]-in-law were listed as tenants of a group of manors including Hooks. Sir John Say died in 1478 holding Hooks and Pinnacles of the Abbot of Waltham. He was succeeded by his son Sir William. In 1515 Robert Turbervyl, at the request of Sir William Say, granted this manor to Thomas Howard, Duke of Norfolk, steward of Waltham Forest during the minority of John de Vere, Earl of Oxford. Dorothy, daughter and heir of Sir William Say, brought this manor to her husband William, Lord Mountjoy. Their only daughter Gertrude married Henry Courtenay, Marquess of Exeter, in 1519, and the manor subsequently came into Exeter's possession. In 1539 he was attainted and this manor was forfeit to the Crown."[3]
↑ 'Waltham Holy Cross: Introduction and manors,' in A History of the County of Essex: Volume 5, ed. W R Powell (London: Victoria County History, 1966), 151-162, accessed March 16, 2016, [2]
Lewis, M. (2014, March 11). "Sir Thomas Howard, Earl Marshal of England, 2nd Duke Norfolk, Sheriff of Norfolk & Suffolk, Lord High Treasure #15419, b. 1443, d. 21 May 1524," citing: Burke, 1938 and various works by Douglas Richardson. ORTNCA. Web.
Richardson, D. (2011). "Howard 11," in Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd ed, II, p. 414. Google Books.
Richardson, D. (2011). "Howard 12," in Plantagenet Ancestry, 2nd ed, II, p. 274. Google Books.
Richardson, D. (2013). Royal Ancestry, I: 486, III: 336.
See Also...
Pine, L. G. (1971). The New Extinct Peerage 1884-1971, pp. 9. London: Heraldry Today)
Proceedings of the Society of Antiquaries of London, 1, pp. 14. J.B. Nichols and Son, for The Society of Antiquaries, Somerset House, London, 1849. Archive.org. "buried at Thetford Priory; and Blomefield states, that his remains were removed to Framlingham, but it is more probable that they were deposited at Lambeth in the chapel founded by him"
Space: The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom.see also: Cokayne, G.E. (1910). The Complete Peerage. London: The St. Catherine Press, London; Cokayne, et. al. (n.d.). The Complete Peerage, II: 153, VIII: 61, 521; Cokane, G.E., Gibbs, V., Doubleday, H.A. White, G.H., Warrand, D. & De Walden, H. (2000). The Complete Peerage, I, pp. 253. Gloucester, UK: Alan Sutton Publishing;
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She is Elizabeth Fitz Alan, wife of Thomas Mowbray, 1st Duke of Norfolk. Her son was John Mowbray, 2nd Duke of Norfolk. Richard III created John Howard (this guy's father), Duke of Norfolk using the pretense that he was the great-grandson of the Thomas Mowbray, 1st Duke of Norfolk. If we follow Complete Peerage's numbering we should call this guy Thomas Howard, 7th Duke of Norfolk and his father John Howard, 6th Duke of Norfolk (rather than restarting the numbering with a new creation of the title).
Wikipedia says his father was Thomas Howard, 2nd Duke of Norfolk, not John Howard (as listed in this profile). I didn't see an existing John Howard 1443 21 May 1524 to connect as father. Do we have to create a new one? See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Howard,_3rd_Duke_of_Norfolk. The picture here is actually Thomas Howard II, so it looks like father and sone were accidentally merged.
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edited by Joe Cochoit
Thank you!
I changed the dates, but the other information has to be checked.