Andrew (Huber) Hoover is a DAR Patriot Ancestor, A211783.
Andrew (Huber) Hoover performed Patriotic Service in Pennsylvania in the American Revolution.
Andreas Huber is believed to have been born in Ellerstadt in the German Palatinate. One source records that he was born on 1 Dec 1722 [1] although another records that he was born on 23 Jan 1723, son of Jonas and Anna Maria.[2] He was the son of a wine-merchant, and grew up in a large Lutheran family of Swiss ancestry.[3][4]
His presumed birth and baptismal record in the church records of Ellerstadt reads as follows: [5]
Anno 1723, den 29. Jan: ist Jonas Hubern und seiner Frau Anna Maria ein Söhnl: geboren und den 7t. Febr. noe Andreas getauft worden. (Anno 1723, on the 29th of January was born to Jonas Huber and his wife Anna Maria a little boy, he was baptized on the 7th of February with the name Andreas.)
He emigrated to Pennsylvania in 1738, aged just 15 [4][6][7] and married Margaretha Pfautz[1] about 1745 in Philadelphia.[3] They soon moved to Maryland, where most of their children were born.[3][4]
In 1762, Andrew traveled with his family by oxcart down the Great Wagon Road to settle near the Uwharrie River in Randolph (then Rowan/Orange) County, North Carolina. Here he established a well-known and profitable grist mill.[4] In 1772, Andrew joined the Separate Baptist Church, but Margaret was known to be a Quaker in 1789, and several other members of the family also later became Quakers.[3]
"The early groups of Friends in America were perhaps the best compromise between individualism and community needs that man has ever reached. Men and women were equal members of the Society ; personal conscience was the only law-giver, and the worship of God had been freed of all creed and ritual. In this environment Andrew Hoover and his wife found peace, and in it they reared their thirteen children." [8]
Andrew contributed 100 pounds to the patriot cause during the American Revolution [4] and is recorded as having "furnished supplies in the Hillsborough district.[1] Given his Quaker connections, it is unlikely that he saw active service.
He died in Randolph County [3] c.1794.[1] His exact burial place is unknown although he is popularly believed to have been buried in the Hoover Family Cemetery at Jackson Creek.[2]
Andrew and Margaret were the parents of thirteen children, most of whom moved to Ohio, Indiana, and Iowa, probably because of opposition to slavery and because of disastrous floods in North Carolina in 1795 and 1798. Their children included :
Jonas m. Rachel Briles [1] and remained in North Carolina
Peter m. Elizabeth Byrne [1] (sister of Thomas Byrne)
Catherine b.1748 MD d. Harrison, IN m. Thomas Byrne (brother of Elizabeth Byrne)
Elizabeth b.1749 MD d.1827 m. David Pfautz (Fouts)
Research Notes
Birth : A Findagrave entry gives that Andrew was born on 23 Jan 1723, citing an entry in the Lutheran Church book at Ellerstadt, Germany : Anno 1723. Den 29 Jan. 1st, Jonas Huber and Seiner frau Anna Maria ein sohn gebohren und den 7ten Feb. Andreas getauft. [2] The working theory connecting this baptism record to this Andrew appears to rely on miscellaneous associations between the Huber and Eller families, pointing to the baptism record at Ellerstadt.[9]
Arrival in PA : Evidence needed to confirm that the widely-reported 1738 arrival date is correct. Other sources record the arrival of a man named Andrew Huber in 1741, aged 20. [10]
Death : Earlier version of profile recorded death date as 29 Jan 1723, but gave no sources.
Ancestor of President Herbert Hoover : One source identifies Andrew (Andreas) as the "great-great-great-grandfather" of Jesse Hoover, and thus 4 x gr.grandfather of President Hoover.[4] Another source identifies Andrew as the "great-great grandfather" (i.e. 2 x gr.grandfather) of President Hoover.[11] However, Andrew Hoover of this profile appears as the 3 x gr.grandfather of President Hoover. It is assumed these sources are mistaken.
↑ 2.02.12.2 Find a Grave, database and images (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/5063981/andreas-hoover: accessed 03 March 2023), memorial page for Andreas “Andrew” Hoover (23 Jan 1723–1794), Find A Grave: Memorial #5063981, citing Hoover Cemetery, Jackson Creek, Randolph County, North Carolina, USA; Maintained by Armantia (contributor 19036309). Entry cites a 1723 entry in the Lutheran Church book at Ellerstadt, Germany, but is otherwise unsourced. No grave details are known, and memorial is virtual only.
↑ Pfalz: Zentralarchiv der Evangelischen Kirche, Bad Dürkheim, Ellerstadt. Taufen, Trauungen, Beerdigungen, Sonstiges 1686-1767. Mikrofiche 11/1-3, Image 57/158. Retrieved from Archion, 27 Oct 2023: http://www.archion.de/p/21b5060917/
↑ BURGERT, ANNETTE KUNSELMAN. Eighteenth Century Emigrants from German-Speaking Lands to North America. Publications of the Pennsylvania German Society, 16/19. Birdsboro, PA: The Pennsylvania German Society. Vol. 1: The Northern Kraichgau. 1983. 461p. Viewed via https://www.ancestry.com.au/discoveryui-content/view/3114796:7486 : Andreas Huber, age 15, arrival 1738.
↑ WUST, KLAUS. "The Emigration Season of 1738 - Year of the Destroying Angels." In The Report: A Journal of German-American History (Society for the History of the Germans in Maryland), vol. 40 (1986), pp. 21-56. Viewed via https://www.ancestry.com.au/discoveryui-content/view/332689:7486 : Andreas Huber, age 15, arrival 1738.
↑ EGLE, WILLIAM HENRY, editor Names of Foreigners Who Took the Oath of Allegiance to the Province and State of Pennsylvania, 1727-1775, with the Foreign Arrivals, 1786-1808. (Pennsylvania Archives, ser. 2, vol. 17.) Harrisburg [PA]: E.K. Meyers, 1890. 787p. Reprinted by Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, 1967. Viewed at https://www.ancestry.com.au/discoveryui-content/view/3115507:7486 : Arrival of Andrew Huber, aged 20, 1741.
↑ Henry, J. M. (1936) History of the Church of the Brethren in Maryland p.46, Elgin, IL : Brethren. Viewed at https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=wu.89067481028&view=1up&seq=54&skin=2021&q1=hoover : [Philip Engler] purchased a farm of 107 acres from Stephen Bower in Frederick County in 1762. This farm once belonged to Andrew Hoover, great-great-grandfather of Herbert Hoover.
See also :
Roberts, Gary Boyd, Ancestors of American Presidents p 77
1560-1900, U.S. and International Marriage Records, database with images, Ancestry.com (2005) :
Acknowledgments
Thank you to Cameron Sivley for creating WikiTree profile Huber-1085 through the import of Sivley Family Tree.ged on Oct 29, 2013.
WikiTree profile Huber-584 created through the import of Jason Allington family tree.ged on Jan 10, 2012 by Jason A.
WikiTree profile Huber-796 created through the import of Jamie Matthews Coyle Family Tr.ged on Nov 29, 2012 by Jamie Coyle.
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DNA Connections
It may be possible to confirm family relationships with Andrew by comparing test results with other carriers of his Y-chromosome or his mother's mitochondrial DNA.
Y-chromosome DNA test-takers in his direct paternal line on WikiTree:
I see an extensive quote from Burgert on this man, suggesting persuasively that the 1738 immigrant on Two Sisters was b. May 13, 1724 in Ittlingen to Johannes and Ottilia Unk., and also this article from Kris Hocker. https://www.krishocker.com/andreas-huber-origins-trippstadt-ellerstadt-or-ittlingen/. Does anyone know if the parents of the 1738 immigrant Andreas have been determined one way or the other? I can provide Burgert's quote if that would be helpful, but don't want to reinvent the wheel. I see her cited here but don't see discussion on this question.
Hoover-7221 and Huber-140 appear to represent the same person because: Clear duplicate. Baptism record confirms LNAB as Huber, and so merge should proceed to Huber-140. Bio from Huber-140 is extensively sourced and should be retained.
From the information I got when I was at the museum, they did have a daughter named Mary, but not this Mary. She was born about 1747 in Maryland. They didn't have a daughter named Hannah. The second Andrew is the son of the first Andrew. Their daughters Elizabeth and Catherine are mentioned after his alternative death.
This profile has significant similarities with Huber-140, including same birth place and wives named Pfautz. It makes me wonder if there is confusion or conflation going on here.
According to footnote #2 on Hocking's site, it looks like there were two different Andreas Huber's that have gotten mixed up. And this man is NOT the ancestor of Herbert Hoover.
I have adopted the profiles without a manager, and approved the merges on my side. The problem is that one of the husbands of Hannah needs to be merged with the father of the other Hannah, and also the son, it seems. This will be a difficulty, and I will try to search for more sources to see which one would be correct.
Among the children listed a Hannah is listed twice. I have never before seen a Hannah listed among their children, and the two Hannah's have little, but similar information, and should at least be merged, and preferably additional information or documentation supplied.
I have that Andreas and Anna (5th Great-Grandparents)had a total of 13 children. I descend from their son Andrew. I have a lot of information on this Hoover line and am willing to share.
Thanks for the input! I'll try to arrange a merge.
Thanks
Bio does note that Andreas and Anna Margaretha possibly had thirteen children, so Hannah may well belong here, but better sources would be helpful.