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John Huddleston (abt. 1325 - 1367)

John Huddleston
Born about in Cumberland, Englandmap [uncertain]
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married about 1350 in Cumberland, Englandmap [uncertain]
Descendants descendants
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Died at about age 42 [location unknown]
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Profile last modified | Created 25 Dec 2015
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Biography

The Pennington Pedigree by Foster describes this John as the son of Sir Richard Hoddleston and his wife Alice.[1] Foster gives this marriage as 1317/18 but that seems much too early. Nicolson[2] said his parents Richard and Alice married c. 1320 and their grandson John married c. 1391 which would put THIS generation of John and Maude Pennington likely married about 1350. That would put this profile's birth year at about 1325 per WikiTree standards (25 years to first marriage).

3 generations (and more) of ancestors are shown in the Visitation of Cumberland[3] and the "History and Antiquities...&c" work by Joseph Nicolson and others.[2] The Visitation of Cumberland does not credit this marriage to Maude Pennington; it says instead that John the son of Richard & Alice married a "Daughter of Henry Fenwick"

Some sources give Alice's name as "Troughton", some don't assert a surname.

"Visitation of Yorkshire" for 1654 says that she was Alice Tunstall, daughter of Thomas Tunstall and Alice Nevell.[4]

There are (at least) 4 different versions of this lineage as shown in the Huddleston Free Space Page on WikiTree, not all of them show a Pennington marriage. Hopefully more sources and analysis will come to light along with original documents such as IPMs.

Research Notes

A fascinating pair of 1398 court petitions appear at the UK National Archives related to Richard Huddleston, son and heir of John Huddleston (aka de Hodelston) and Robert Harrington (aka de Haryngton) and Millom manor. While it's hard to tell "which" John and Richard Huddleston is meant, given that in 1398 Richard was a grown man it seems very likely to be the son of this profile. Possibly, if THIS John who married Maude Pennington DID have a son John who married Catherine Tempest, then it might be the Richard of one generation later. The text of the complaints are these:

Haryngton requests remedy since until recently he was seised and in peaceful possession of the manor of Millom because of the minority of Richard de Hodeleston, which manor malefactors now occupy, after forcibly entering, expelling his servants, destroying goods worth £200 and taking his tenants' rents. The chancellor should make a commission to certain men, including (John) Scarborough, to enquire into this matter and certify it with all possible haste.[5]
A request to grant a commission to certain men and a serjeant at arms to arrest Richard son of John de Hodeleston, Harrington, Richard and Gilbert de Newton, Twisleton, Richard de Hodeleston of Hayton and Chamber and bring them before the King's council to answer for their deeds mentioned in the attached bill, and that the commissioners enquire into their forcible entry into the manor of Millom and the names of their accomplices.[6]

Sources

  1. Pedigree of Sir Josslyn Pennington, fifth baron Muncaster of Muncaster and ninth baronet by Foster, Joseph, 1844-1905. Publication date 1878 p1
  2. 2.0 2.1 The history and antiquities of the countries of Westmorland and Cumberland by Nicolson, Joseph; Burn, Richard, 1709-1785; Nicolson, William, 1655-1727 Publication date 1777 Publisher London W. Strahan pp. 11-15
  3. The visitation of the county of Cumberland in the year 1615 by Saint-George, Richard, Sir, d. 1635; Fetherston, John, ed; College of Arms (Great Britain) Publication date 1872 p. 22
  4. The visitation of Yorkshire in the years 1563 and 1564 by Flower, William, ca. 1498-1588; Norcliffe, Charles Best; Harleian Society Publication date 1881 p. 327
  5. UK National Archives 1398 Harrington Petition #1 [https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C9334225 Reference SC 8/214/10668
  6. UK National Archives Harrington Petition #2 [https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C9334226 Reference SC 8/214/10669




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503. JOHN DE HAVERYNGTON. IPM (Harington)

Writ, 3 June, 37 Edward III.(c 1364/1365)

Millum. The manor, held of the deceased by John de Hudeleston by homage and service of a knight’s fee and 13s. 4d. yearly.

posted by Steven Broadley
1299/1300

MEMBRANE 17d. May 4. Easton by Stamford.

The like to John de Insula and Roger de Burton, on complaint by the abbot of Furneys that John de Hudleston and others took his beasts of the plough, contrary to the statute De averiis non capiendis, and other beasts at Millum and Butherilkil, co. Cumberland, and drove them to the said John's manor of Milium and impounded them there without food so that a great part of them died, took his waggons and carts laden with corn and extorted heavy ransoms for their delivery, imprisoned the lay brethren and other ministers of the abbey, cut down his trees in his wood of Kirkby Irlith, co. Lancaster, took his boats and nets in his common of fishery at Ulverston, co. Lancaster, and carried them away. By fine made at the Exchequer,

posted by Steven Broadley
116. ALICE, LATE THE WIFE OF RICHARD DE HODELESTON or DE HUDELESTON

Writ, 20 March, 11 Edward III. CUMBERLAND. Inq. Monday after Palm Sunday, 11 Edward III. Millum. The manor (extent given), including a park, another park called Ulfhou, a plot called Aunays, 12s. 4d. yearly from tenants who hold shielings at Bretby, 13s. 6d. yearly from tenants at Botil, and 11s. 9d. yearly from tenants at Satherton, held for her life of the manor of Egermund for a knight’s fee, and by service of 13s. 4d. yearly; which manor of Egermund is of the inheritance of John de Multon, lately deceased, who held of the king in chief, whose lands and tenements, because Alice late his wife is pregnant, are in the king’s hand. John, son of the said Richard, aged 32 years and more, is next heir of all the above. C. Edw. III. File 50. (27.) C1338 BHO Born 1306 or before?

posted by Steven Broadley
Millom. (c 1333)

Has in Goods: £ s. d. Dom. Richard de Hodeleston 3 15 0

from Cumberland Lay Subsidy Fifteenth and Tenth, 6 Edw. III Cumberland Lay Subsidy: Liberty of Egremont BHO

posted by Steven Broadley
331. THOMAS DE MULTON of Egermount. IPM BHO

Writ, 8 February, 15 Edward II.

[CUMBERLAND.] Extent of knight’s fees and advowsons, Monday after SS. Philip and James, 15 Edward II. Millom. The manor held of the said Thomas by Richard de Hodeleston by homage and fealty, suit at the court of Egremount and service of a knight’s fee, and 13s. 4d. yearly for food for two of the said Thomas’s servants every ninth day at his said manor. ( think c 1322/1323)

posted by Steven Broadley
[Cumb.] A. 9023. Feoffment by Richard de Hodeleston son of Sir Richard de Hodeleston to Sir William de Bedale, chaplain, and Thomas de Dutton, of his land &c. in Hyton in Botyll in Caupeland. Hyton, Friday after the Nativity of St. John the Baptist, 39 Edward III. ( Think this is c 1366/1367)
posted by Steven Broadley
628. JOHN DE MULTON of Egremound. Egremont IPM

Writ, 23 November, 8 Edward III. (think this is c 1335/1336)

Millum. A certain free tenant holding by fealty for life, of the inheritance of John de Hodeleston, viz.—Alice de Hodeleston, who renders 17s. 4d. yearly for an eyrie of falcons.

Also from same IPM quite vast lands throughout the Kingdom.

Extent, Monday the eve of St. Nicholas, 8 Edward III. Millum. The manor, held of the said John for life by Alice, late the wife of Richard de Hodeleston [or de Hudleston], of the inheritance of John, son and heir of the said Richard, by homage and fealty, and by service of doing suit at the said John’s court at Egremond every three weeks, and by service of a knight’s fee and 13s. 4d. yearly, and by food (puturam) for two servants of the said John every ninth day at the said manor.

Miluum. A knight’s fee, which Alice, late the wife of Richard de Hodeleston, held of the inheritance of John, son and heir of the said Richard.

Mulcastre. The manor, held by William, son and heir of John de Penyngton, a minor and in the wardship of the executors of the said John de Multon, by homage and fealty and suit at the court of Egremond as above, and by service of a sixth part of a knight’s fee, 12d. yearly for sea-wake, and food for two servants as above.

posted by Steven Broadley
edited by Steven Broadley
adding sources and info which of course is contradictory in a lot of ways but it's all we've got for now
posted by Brad Stauf
I show the father as Richard and the spouse as Alice Throughton.

Richard's father is John Huddleston and Lady Sybil De Cornwall.

posted by Alan Huddleston
richard huddleston 1282-1334

alice throughton 1295-1339

john huddleston 1223-1311 joan millon

adam huddleston 1200-1311 unknown john de huddleston 1175- sybel de kirkbie

richard huddleston b) 1150 yorkshire, england

nigel de huddleston 1000-

richard huddleston 1062-1036

richard huddleston 1040-1090

john huddleston 1000-1065

adam huddleston 0936-0988

posted by White White

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