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New Netherland Settlers project members noted the problems with the two Jannetje Jacobs 4 years ago (and probably earlier). It appears that there were two women in New Netherland with this not-so-unusual name, with two different [and mutually exclusive] husbands. They've both been given the same parents and sometimes the same birth data; it's not clear that the parents are correct for either of these women, and it's unlikely that she was born as early as 1629 in Mombackus (which, anyway, would not have been in "Ulster County" when it was under Dutch control).
It seems to me that it's better to keep the two questionable profiles in their current forms "for now" than it would be to pretend that we can conclusively settle the problems in the absence of good sources.
Conflicting info online; different fathers same mothers:
Some have te family like this:
Jan van der Chijs. Jan was born in 1592, in Zevenhuizen, Franekeradeel, Friesland, Netherlands he married Elisabeth Valrinck. They had one daughter:
Jannetje Jacobsen married Jacob Jansen van Noordstrand
All I could find so far for or about the van der Chijs family is that they were beer brewers.
And some like this:
Family 1 : Aaron Jacobs married Elisabet Valrinck
Jannetje Jacobs married Jacob Jansen van Noordstrant
The Aaron Jacobs 'father' from some genealogies, probably is just a mix up/mistake and this couples son ? There is Aaron Jacobs van Noorstrandt who married Aeltie van Steenwyck on September 4, 1687 in Kingston, Ulster and second Geertruij van Gelder 1709 in NY.
So at least it looks like these parents are only meant for this Jannetje here and will look for sources, but so far it looks indeed (Stevens comment) like Jannetje perhaps was born with Jans or Jansen for LNAB (her Patronymic) and that she used or was registered with husbands first name as her patronymic/last name, so ... Jannetje wife of Jacob ?
Anyway unless Jannetje Jacobs married twice, I think the other Jannetje Jacobs could probably be detached from these parents. (they are not the same and these parents everywhere only are mentioned for this Jannetje ?)
After just some minutes' research, I fully concur with Steven Mix' questions related to these lineages. The relation between Jannetje and "Jan Van der Chijs" is tenuous at best, and certainly questionable. Research in this area needs to be done. Nederlandse speakers would have a pronounced advantage regarding Van der Chijs in the Netherlands.
It seems that this Jannetje who married Jacob van Noorstrandt may be a different woman than the Jannetje who married van der Schruyven.
The husband Jacob was well known, had eight children with Jannetje through at least the 1660s and maybe up to as late as 1675.
Jacob is accounted for in records through the 1670s, 1680s, and my notes show a date of October 11, 1686 when Jacob sold the house that he was living in the city of Albany, Albany Co., NY Colony.
So he was not an early death, which would have allowed for Jannetje to be a widow married to van der Schruyven by the 1665 birth of their daughter Cornelia Willems.
So something is not right about one of the Jannetje lineages.
Note that the "Harrison, Indiana, USA" as attached to New Amesterdam in the marriage is a bit of a false artifact oddity which appears as imported from various gedcoms.
My idea about it is that it must have been an early auto-complete function on Ancestry, in which a submitter did a bad copy and paste, when entering New Amsterdam as a location. And so then later submitters never bothered to correct the auto-complete data, before they generated these gedcoms from Ancestry.
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Per researcher John Van Nostrand, 2001, Jannetje's father was Aaron Jacobsen. That matches her patronymic name Jacobs, although for her it is not patronymic, since she would then be named something more like Jannetje Aaronsdr. And neither Jacobs nor Jannetje Jacobsen (as John has her name) is patronymic for her currently attached father as Jan, either. For Jan as father, she would instead have to be Jans or Jansen or Jansdr. So this connection needs further study.
It seems to me that it's better to keep the two questionable profiles in their current forms "for now" than it would be to pretend that we can conclusively settle the problems in the absence of good sources.
Some have te family like this:
All I could find so far for or about the van der Chijs family is that they were beer brewers.
And some like this:
The Aaron Jacobs 'father' from some genealogies, probably is just a mix up/mistake and this couples son ? There is Aaron Jacobs van Noorstrandt who married Aeltie van Steenwyck on September 4, 1687 in Kingston, Ulster and second Geertruij van Gelder 1709 in NY.
So at least it looks like these parents are only meant for this Jannetje here and will look for sources, but so far it looks indeed (Stevens comment) like Jannetje perhaps was born with Jans or Jansen for LNAB (her Patronymic) and that she used or was registered with husbands first name as her patronymic/last name, so ... Jannetje wife of Jacob ?
Anyway unless Jannetje Jacobs married twice, I think the other Jannetje Jacobs could probably be detached from these parents. (they are not the same and these parents everywhere only are mentioned for this Jannetje ?)
The husband Jacob was well known, had eight children with Jannetje through at least the 1660s and maybe up to as late as 1675.
Jacob is accounted for in records through the 1670s, 1680s, and my notes show a date of October 11, 1686 when Jacob sold the house that he was living in the city of Albany, Albany Co., NY Colony.
So he was not an early death, which would have allowed for Jannetje to be a widow married to van der Schruyven by the 1665 birth of their daughter Cornelia Willems.
So something is not right about one of the Jannetje lineages.
My idea about it is that it must have been an early auto-complete function on Ancestry, in which a submitter did a bad copy and paste, when entering New Amsterdam as a location. And so then later submitters never bothered to correct the auto-complete data, before they generated these gedcoms from Ancestry. * * * * * Per researcher John Van Nostrand, 2001, Jannetje's father was Aaron Jacobsen. That matches her patronymic name Jacobs, although for her it is not patronymic, since she would then be named something more like Jannetje Aaronsdr. And neither Jacobs nor Jannetje Jacobsen (as John has her name) is patronymic for her currently attached father as Jan, either. For Jan as father, she would instead have to be Jans or Jansen or Jansdr. So this connection needs further study.