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William Jay (1720 - 1773)

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William Jay
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Biography

William Jay 1720 - 1796

Birth: 1720 Winchester, Frederick, Va

Religion: William Jay converted to the Quaker faith some time after he~~married Mary Vestal.

Marriage: Mary Elizabeth Vestal) 1743 Hopewell Meeting, Winchester, Frederick Co, Virginia

Death: 1796 Newberry County, South Carolina

Parents: Joseph Jay Unknown Jay

Wife: Mary Elizabeth Jay (born Vestal) 1727 - 1818

Children:

  1. James Jay 1744 - 1835
  2. William Jay 1745 - 1777
  3. Joseph Jay 1747 - 1806
  4. Deborah Mccool (born Jay) 1748 - 1805
  5. John Jay 1752 - 1829
  6. Mary Patty (born Jay) 1755 - ?
  7. Rachel Arnold (born Jay) 1758 - 1804
  8. Lydia Mcmillan (born Jay) 1761 - ?
  9. David Jay 1765 - 1839 [1]

Died Y. 4 MAR 1773. Bush River, Newberry, South Carolina, United States. Age: 52-53.

Residence 1773 Age: 52-53. 1773 Age: 52-53.

Event: Marriage 1743 Winchester, Frederick County Virginia. Age: 22-23.

Buried 1773 non cemetery burial.

Note:

Source: The Vestal Paper<p><p>William Jay was born in 1720 in Harford Co., MD. His father, Joseph Jay, was born in New Jersey, and lived for a time at Borderingtown in that state before moving to Maryland. Joseph Jay's father, John Jay,a planter of Barbadoes, visited Rhode Island on business in 1672, met George Fox, founder of the Quaker Society, who was visiting the Colonies. Jay went with him on the trip to Maryland, and later came to New Jersey. He is mentioned several times in Salem Co., NJ.

William and Mary Vestal Jay were not Quakers in good standing as was her mother. William and Mary were married "out of meeting" in 1743. Mary did not acknowledge this until after William's death. She had requested a letter in 1772 from Hoopewell MM at Winchester, VA.

It is known that the William and Mary moved to North Carolina in 1748. In 1751 Mary's mother, Elizabeth Mercer Vestal and her brothers followed them to North Carolina.

William was accepted into membership at the Cane Creek Church (by request) on the 8th month, 2nd day, of 1755. William is listed on the 1755 tax list of Orange Co., NC. He is also listed as a bondsman in the Orange County Court Minutes on December 1756, March 1759, and June 1759. Also in the Court Minutes,1752-1766: Court of November 12, 1765, states, "Robert Harlin (Hillard, later) brought into Court by John Allen Tharp, his security, acquitted. Accused of stealing a horse from Wm. Jay, Sr. In 1771, William and two of his sons signed a petition to have Caswell County set off from Orange Co., NC, Col. Records, N Vol. 9,p 90.

Then in 1772, William transferred his church membership to theBush Creek Church in Newberry Co., South Carolina. One year after this move William is referred to as deceased, but Mary wasstill living according to the marriage entries of their Children.

William Jay made his will dated 23 Nov 1772, Berkley Co., SC (a typewritten copy is on file at Charleston, SC; copy of originalhandwritten will can be found at the South Carolina Department of Archives and History in Columbia, SC Book "TT," pp 22-23.

Dedimus issued to John Caldwell Esq. to prove the Will of William JayDeceased & qualify the Exors therein named, July 30, 1773 (Probate Records of SC, Vol. 2, p 75). The Will was probated on August 31 1773, Berkley County, District 96, South Carolina.

TheWill:

"Know all men by these Presents that I William Jay of Berkley County and District of 96 and Province of South Carolina do constitute and appoint this my last Will and Testament as followeth:<p>First, I give unto my son John one certain tract of land containing two hundred acres, situated and being in theCounty and Province of the aforesaid, joining the Plantation whereon I now live to him and his heirs and assigns forever to dispose of as him or them thinks fitt/

Secondly, I give unto my son David two tracts of land one of one hundred acres and the other containing fifty acres on which I now live and cultivatein the County and Province aforesaid. The aforesaid 100 acres deeded by Robert Bull according to said Bulls bond to me; the aforesaid fifty acres being conveyed to me by David Mote to him and his heirs and assigns, provided nevertheless that my beloved wife Mary Jay is

to have peaceable possession and livelihood upon said one hundred acres of land during her life and all the rest and residue of my goods and chattels and personal estate after payment of my debts and funeral expenses to my beloved wife Mary Jay whom I leave as my sole Executrix of this my lastWill and Testament.

In Witness whereof I have hereunto setmy hand and seal this twenty third day of November in the year of our Lord onethousand seven hundred and seventy two.

William Jay(his mark)

Testamentin the presence of us:

William Wright

Enos Elleman

Thomas Pugh<p>Proved by virtue of a Dedimus from the Honorable William Bull, Esq. (Lieut. Gov) to John Caldwell dated 31 Aug 1773. Mary Jay was qualified as William Jay's Executrix at the same time. <p>GEDCOM Import

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Biography

Please see this excellent evidentiary research summary on the subject of William Jay's birth year and location from the Jay Family Website. http://www.jayfamily.org/docs/research/ResearchDoc3.pdf
The research summary concludes the following:

1. It has now been established that Jay family tradition as told by Eli Jay and others is not 100% accurate and that Eli Jay had no family tradition concerning the 21 year stay in North Carolina passed to him. As a result, he states all major events either occurred in VA or SC.
2. It can be established that the William Jay who received a land grant in Orange Co. VA (to become Frederick Co. VA) was the same William Jay who married Mary Vestal and died in 96th District South Carolina.
3. It can be established that William Jay was born no later than 1711.
4. By extension it is logical that William Jay could have easily been married by 1732.
5. It can be established that William Jay could have married Mary Vestal as early as 1740.
6. Logic would dictate that if the Vestal marriage was not before 1740, then he was married previous to that union.
7. No documentary or traditional evidence exists showing any other Jay family in Frederick/Fairfax Co. VA at this date.
8. Only the youngest children (those born in NC) of William Jay and Mary Vestal can be proven by documentation. The older children (William, James, Joseph, etc.) can ONLY be associated to the family by tradition...which can be shown as flawed in many cases. By extension it can logically be assumed that the traditional record of the eldest children was not necessarily accurate, ordered properly or complete.
9. Sarah Satterfield, by tradition and interaction is most certainly a JAY and by extension and logic the daughter of William Jay.
10. William Jay Jr., tradition held second son of William Jay and Mary Vestal, is most probably the eldest son of William Jay Sr. based on a preponderance of the evidence.
11. It can be established that most genealogists and individuals posting information have generally quoted or cited conclusions or assumptions made by the early Jay researchers. However, many of these early assumptions were flawed based on incomplete data and a lack of understanding of colonial laws. It can be specifically substantiated that the early quoted researchers were never working with as complete a set of documentary evidence and knowledge base as it exists today.

The above document was authored by Vince King and Christy Jay and represents excellent genealogical work. I thank them for their excellent contribution to the understanding of the Jay family. Oesting-1 15:30, 12 April 2016 (EDT)

Sources

  1. MyHeritage


Jay family index : the descendants of William Jay (born Harford County, Maryland, 1720) and Mary Vestal Jay / from the workbook of Cassius Milton Jay, 1886-1953 ; compiled and edited by Bessie Kohner. Print. A scanned version can be found at http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=wu.89066167164;view=1up;seq=7

A DISCUSSION ON WILLIAM JAY OF FREDERICK COUNTY VIRGINIA: Tradition vs. Evidence. October 20, 2007. http://www.jayfamily.org/docs/research/ResearchDoc3.pdf

Biography

William Jay ... [2]

Notes on William Jay

William Jay: 1. The lineage for William Jay is still uncertain. Two theories exist:

First: From the Vestal/Jay Notes by Percy Pemberton Brown:

"William Jay was born in 1720 in Hartford Co., MD. His father, Joseph Jay had been born in New Jersey, and lived for a time at Borderingtown in that state before moving to Maryland. Joseph's father, John Jay was a planter of Barbados. He purchased land in Monmouth County, East Jersey from Robert Story in 1671 and William Shakerly in 1672. He visited Rhode Island on business in 1672, met George Fox, the founder of the Quaker Society, who was then visiting the colonies. Jay went with him on the trip to MD, and later came to New Jersey. He is mentioned several times in Salem Co., NJ. George Fox, Quaker founder, lists this John Jay as "a friend, pretty, rich planter of Barbados...and his large family" in his journal of his settlement in the northeast."

This first theory is supported and further developed by Bill Timmons and has support in deed and will records.

Second: From Cassius Milton Jay in the Los Angeles SAR November 1928 "Bulletin" and in the "Jay Family Index":

"William Jay was born in 1720, was the son of John Jay of Salem Co., NJ and Chester Co., PA. This John was the son of John Jay born September 30, 1672 in Boston to John and Mercy Bartlett Jay. NOTE: Mercy Bartlett's parents were Robert Bartlett and Mary Warren (daughter of Richard Warren of the Mayflower)."

This line, though widely published, has not been substantiated. It has, however, been used in this document.

2. William and Mary Vestal Jay lived in Frederick Co., VA (Hopewell) where their oldest children, including Deborah Jay, were born. William was not yet a Quaker, so Mary Vestal Jay was disowned when they married.

3. Census Index: Colonial America: William Jay, Orange Co. NC - 1755

4. From Cane Creek MM, NC: William Jay - 1755, 8, 2 Recrq

The Cane Creek MM was established 7th of 10th month, 1751, being located on the stream from which it took its name, in the central part of the large area which comprised Orange County. This area included all the present counties of Caswell, Person, Alamance, Chatham, and Orange, and parts of Rockingham, Guilford, Randolph, Lee, Wake, and Durham. The meeting house is now located in Alamance County, adjacent to the village of Snow Camp, and about 15 miles south of Graham, the county seat.

William Jay became a Quaker while living in Orange Co., NC, and his wife was reinstated.

5. From Bush River MM, SC: William Jay listed as deceased on daughter Elizabeth's wedding notice dated March 4, 1773.

6. From Nedra L. Zagorski: An article on William Jay stated that he was so insistent that all his children (married or not) come with the family to Bush River instead of (staying at) Cane Creek that when his two oldest sons refused to go, he cut them out of his will. Deborah and James McCool went to Bush River with the family. He had already given his daughters an inheritance when they married however, and the married daughters were not mentioned in the will. He died so soon after the move, from an accident, that most of his estate was left to his youngest child David who was only 7 at the time.

More About William Jay and Mary Elizabeth Vestal: Marriage: 1743, Winchester, Frederick Co., VA.

Children of William Jay and Mary Elizabeth Vestal are: +Deborah Jay, b. 1748, Frederick Co., VA, d. Abt. 1805, Frederick Co., VA

Primary Source from the Autobiography of Allen Jay

[3]

From online copy of the book, 'The Autobiography of Allen Jay'.

[4]

William Jay received a patent from the Colony on 3 October 1734 for a tract of Vanmeter/Hite land containing 100 acres located "below Daniel Burnetts line, below the falls of Evats Run, (on Shenandoah near Charleston)" [5]. Jay probably did not live on this land. He sold the tract to Thomas Sept. 5, 1748 executed deed to Thos. Rutherford for 50 pounds on 5 September 1748, as recorded by the Fairfax Company.[6] Jost Hite sold this same tract of land to Rutherford for 22 pounds on 5 March 1746 stating in the deed that Jay had sold it to Hite in Orange County. However, there are no records of Hite's purchase of this land from Jay in Orange County records. Apparently, Jost Hite was an opportunist, taking advantage of Jay who was east of the Blue Ridge, but he appears to have been somewhat fair in that he sold the land for less than half of Jay's price." [7] William Jay rented 100 acres of land in Frederick County, VA in 1746.[8] "The Bulletin" states he moved to North Carolina in 1748 followed in 1751 by the mother and brothers of Mary Vestal Jay. He is shown about 1757 as a surveyor's helper. A "William Jay & son" were on the 1755 tax list of Orange County, North Carolina [9]. May 6, 1756: Was issued 395 acres of land in Orange County, N.C. on NE side N. fork of Flat River. [10]. Also listed as bondsman in Orange Cnty Ct. Min., December 1756, March, 1759; June 1759. Orange County Court Minutes, 1752- 1766, Court of November 12, 1765 states: "Robert Harlin (Hillard, later) brought into Court by John Allen Tharp his Security, acquitted. Accused of stealing a horse from Wm. Jay, Sr." In 1771 signed petition (with 2 sons) to have Caswell County set off from Orange Co., N.C., Col. Records, N.C. Vol. 9, p. 90. He was married "out of meeting" in 1743; his wife Mary did not "acknowledge the error" until after his death and just prior to removal to South Carolina M.M., where she asked for her letter in 1772 from Hopewell MM at Winchester, VA. (The Bulletin by CMJ). William Jay made a will 23 Nov. 1772 Berkley Co., SC. [11]. Dedimus issued to John Caldwell Esqr. to prove the Will of Wm. Jay Decd. & qualify the Exors therein named. July 30th. 1773 [12]. Probated August 31, 1773 Berkley Co., SC. "KNOW all men by these Presents that I William Jay of Berkley County and district of 96 and Province of South Carolina . . . do constitute and appoint this my last will and Testament as followeth: First, I give unto my son John one certain tract of land containing two hundred acres, situate and being in the County and Province aforesaid joining the Plantation whereon I now live to him and his heirs and assigns forever to dispose of as him or them thinks fitt -- Secondly I give unto my son David two tracts of land one of one hundred acres and the other containing fifty acres on which I now live and cultivate in the County and Province aforesaid the aforesaid 100 acres deeded by Robert Bull according to said Bulls bond to me; the said fifty being conveyed to me by David Mote to him and his heirs and assigns, provided nevertheless that my beloved life Mary Jay to have peaceable possession and livelihood upon said one hundred acres of land during her life and all the rest and residue of my goods and chattels and personal estate after payment of my debts and funeral expenses to my beloved wife Mary Jay whom I leave my Sold Executris of this my last Will and Testament. In Witness whereof I have hereunto sett my hand and seal this twenty third of November in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and seventy two. William Jay (his mark) NB the above mentioned one hundred and fifty acres of land left to David Jay in case he should decease before he is of age then the land to be divided among my three daughters viz Mary Rachel and Lydia in equal parts after my wife's decease and also I leave my son John Executor along with my wife wittness my hand the day and year above written." William Jay (his mark) Sealed Published and declared by the above named William jay as and for his last will and Testament in the presence of us. Wm. Wright Enos Elleman Thomas Pugh Proved by virtue of a Dedimus from the Honorable Wm Bull Esqr. Lieut. Gov. to John Caldwell 31st Aug. 1773. At same time qualified Mary Jay Exrix." NOTE: For more information regarding land originally owned by William Jay, see NOTES for David Jay (son of William Jay, Jr.). NOTE: THERE ARE THOSE WHO BELIEVE THAT WILLIAM AND MARY MAY HAVE HAD TWO OTHER DAUGHTERS, DEBORAH AND SARAH. I've included some information here with respect to those two individuals, but have not included them as actual children of William and Mary Jay at this time. SARAH JAY: A Sarah Jay is believed to have married John Isaac Satterfield (1730-1802). John Satterfield died in Person Co., NC. James Jay's (s/o William and Mary Vestal Jay) will was witnessed by Isaac Satterfield, Jean Satterfield. "We know John was married to Sarah and her maiden name was Jay as verified in a book published in 1889 by Goodspeed Publishing Co., entitled "History of Benton, Washington, Carroll, Madison, Crawford, Franklin, Sebastian Counties, Arkansas." She was not in her father's will. She is however, highly likely to be a child of William Jay as her father deeded land to her husband the same time he received a patent of land in NC. They had travelled with William Jay to Caswell County, NC, and lived in the same places, all supporting the belief that Sarah is a daughter of WIlliam." (Dudick Web Site, "Descendants of William Jay: First Generation") DEBORAH JAY: "James McCool, Jr. was born on the 12 day 12th month, 1747, and died in 1804 in Frederick County. He married Deborah Jay, d/o William and Mary (Vestal) Jay about 1768. James McCool was disowned in 1772 by the Quakers for profane singing and dancing and offering to lay wagers. Apprently, his wife Deborah and her chidren remained in good standing with the church. In 1773, James bought land at Bush River, District 96, South Carolina, and in 1777 he sold it before returning to Virginia. . . "[13] ANCESTRY: The ancestry of William Jay is not proven. I have entered the lineage most accepted by Jay genealogists and that believed by Cassius Milton Jay. Another theory is from the VESTAL JAY NOTES by Percy Pemberton Brown. It states: "William Jay had been born in 1720 in Hartford Co. Md. His father, Joseph Jay, had been born in N. Jersey, and lived for a time at Borderingtown in that state before moving to Maryland. Joseph's father, John Jay, was a planter of Barbadoes. He purchased land in Monmouth County, East Jersey from Robert Story in 1671 and WIlliam Shakerly in 1672. He visited Rhode Island on business in 1672, met George Fox, founder of the Quaker society, who was then visiting the colonies. Jay went with him on the trip to Md., and later came to N. Jersey. He is mentioned several times in Salem Co. (NJ)." George Fox, Quaker founder, lists this John Jay as "a Friend, pretty, rich planter of Barbadoes...and his large family" in his journal of his settlement of the northeast." A biography on Henry Jay, ggrandson of William Jay, appears on pp. 817-818 of "History of Wayne Co., IN" (1884) Vol. II. This source states that his paternal grandfather, John Jay, Sr. (son of William Jay and Mary Vestal), "was of Welsh descent, being a son of one of three brothers (William) who came from Wales. Two of the brothers settled in the east, one of whom was the father of John Jay, of Revolutionary fame, and one, the father of John Jay, Sr., settled in Virginia where John Sr., was born and reared, but subsequently removed to South Carolina . . ." If the "John Jay of Revolutionary fame" is intended to refer to John Jay, the Statesman from New York, this statement is incorrect. I add this reference as a possible theory as to the parentage of William Jay due to the correctness of other names, dates and places it contains. "JAY, William; b. abt. 1720 near Winchester, Va.; m 1743 Mary Vestal, dau of William and Elizabeth (Mercer) Vestal. The Vstal family came to Va. from Chester Co, Pa., William Jay removed to S. Car., soon after 1760, and died in Berkeley Co, prior to 1773; the widow Mary, came to Ohio with her children."[14]. Other records to note: A marriage between William Jay and Sarah Wilder, December 6, 1705, at All Hallow's Parish, Maryland. [15] A Josiah Jay was assessed 17 pounds in East Conestoga Assessment, 1722-23. [16]. Marriage Notes for WILLIAM JAY and MARY VESTAL: [17]

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  2. Entered by Steve Tipton, Tuesday, September 24, 2013.
  3. From online copy of the book, 'The Autobiography of Allen Jay'.
  4. https://dcms.lds.org/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE80874&from=fhd
  5. (Virginia Land patent Book 15, p. 319.) (Tract 128, Map 3)
  6. (signed Wm. Jay of Parish of Fairfax) (Frederick County, VA, Deed Book 1, p. 425.)
  7. Pioneers of Old Frederick County, Virginia by Cecil O'Dell, (1995), p. 98-99.
  8. ("Abstracts of Wills, Inventories, and Administrations Accounts of Frederick County, VA" Compiled by J. Estelle Stewart King (1961), p. 107.)
  9. (The North Carolinean, Vol. 1-2, 1955-56, p. 107)
  10. (Grant 170, Book 14, p. 432, Land Grant Records of N.C., Vol. 1)
  11. (typewritten copy on file at Charleston S.C.; copy of original handwritten will can be found at S.C. Dept. of Arch. and Hist. in Columbia, S.C. Book "TT", p. 22-23)
  12. (Probate Records of South Carolina, Volume 2, p. 75)
  13. ( "Settlement and Some First Families of Back Creek Valley", p. 188.)
  14. (Lindsay M. Brien, "A Genealogical Index of Pioneers in the Miami Valley, Ohio" (1970), p. 87)
  15. "Anne Arundel County Church Records of the 17th and 18th Centuries" by F. Edward Wright, p. 22; and "Maryland Marriage, 1634-1777" compiled by Robert Barnes, p. 96.)
  16. (Lancaster County (PA) Historical Society, Volume XX, 1916)
  17. See Cassius Milton Jay Index, Quaker Families of South Carolina and George by William F. Medlin, p. 106. See also: TITLE: "Jay family index : the descendants of William Jay (born Harford County, Maryland, 1720) and Mary Vestal Jay" AUTHOR(S): Jay, Cassius Milton, 1886-1953. (Main) Kohner, Bessie. (Added) PUBLISHED: [Detroit? Mich.]


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On 24 Nov 2016 at 00:38 GMT Van Landry wrote:

Jay-337 and Jay-227 appear to represent the same person because: looks like the same person



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