Kay (Johnson) Wilson
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Kay (Johnson) Wilson

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Kay A. Wilson formerly Johnson
Born 1940s.
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Mother of and [private daughter (1970s - unknown)]
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Profile last modified | Created 28 Apr 2013 | Last significant change: 16 May 2022
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Kay (Johnson) Wilson is a descendant of Mayflower Passenger Richard Warren.
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Katherine Ann Johnson, the daughter of Douglas Johnson and Phyllis Smith, was born September 27, 1943 in Schenectady, New York.


Paternal and maternal relationships are confirmed with a GEDmatch test match between Kay (Johnson) Wilson GEDmatch T596586 and her sister Lynn (Johnson) Andrews GEDmatch T408316. Their most MRCAs are their parents Douglas Johnson and Phyllis Smith. Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 1.2, based on sharing 2654.8 cM across 46 segments.


  • United States of America, Bureau of the Census; Washington, D.C.; Seventeenth Census of the United States, 1950; Record Group: Records of the Bureau of the Census, 1790-2007; Record Group Number: 29; Residence Date: 1950; Home in 1950: Schenectady, Schenectady, New York; Roll: 218; Sheet Number: 267; Enumeration District: 70-110

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Hamil 37 and Hamil 671 are indeed the same person as per your request that I merge them,,,,could you do it,,,,thank you
Maggie, I appreciate that you agree that the two profile should be merged, but I'm afraid that I can't complete the merge for you. That has to be done by the profile managers.
posted by Kay (Johnson) Wilson
Hi Kay! Just wanted to say thank you for finding some documents on my ancestors William Cope-3109 and his wife Elizabeth a while back. I'm an amateur sleuth, and the things you found and updated on their profiles was very helpful and interesting. I really appreciate it!
posted by Victoria Marshall
Hi Kay, I noticed that you had entered information for Samuel Combs (Combs-3536). I was wondering if you had any source information for this? In particular, his marriage to Martha Langdon? I descend from his daughter Caroline Combs. Thanks!
posted by Diane Matthews
Hi, thank you for so patiently explaining what I needed to do when I didn't take the time to look and research it myself first. That was very kind of you.
posted by Wendy Beecher
I see the following edit entry for Burt-1666,

and since I know nothing about DNA testing and note that you had posted a DNA comment 2 yrs ago, could you help me understand your edit? I can't find the Father Status Indicator or even find the word "confident " on his page. Is your edit regarding Stephen as a father or Stephen's father(John William Burt)? "11 Feb 2022 06:02: Kay (Johnson) Wilson edited the Father Status Indicator and Data Status (Father) for Stephen Evan Burt (abt.1854-1919). (marked parent(s) 'confident' instead of confirmed with DNA because there is insufficient documentation) " Thank You

posted by Greg Bailey
Hi Greg,

The profile for Stephen Evan Burt-1666 previously showed that his relationship to his father, John William Burt-3656, was 'confirmed with DNA'. Two years ago, in February 2020 I left a comment indicating that there wasn't sufficient information on the profile for that relationship status, provided a link to the instructions about marking a relationship to a parent 'confirmed with DNA' and offered to help. Then recently I came across the profile again, saw that the relationship was still showing as 'confirmed with DNA', but that the necessary information to document that relationship still had not been added to the profile, so I changed his relationship to his father to 'confident'.

The Father Status Indicator is found on the 'edit' page for any profile. On the right hand side, near the top, in the 'edit family' section, you can choose from 4 different relationship statuses for the person's relationship to his/her father, and also to his/her mother: non-biological, uncertain, confident, or confirmed with DNA. To the right of each choice there is a question mark in a small black circle. Clicking on that question mark takes you to a page explaining more about that relationship status.

I hope that answers all of your questions. If it doesn't, please let me know. Thanks!

posted by Kay (Johnson) Wilson
(Wes Collinwood) I have just left a message for the profile MGR of Baumgardner 142, of the proposed merge. I have checked & the 2 are the same person. I have urged him to go ahead with the merge. Or you could do it, just let me know the results. Eve is my 5X great grandmother!

Hi Kay. Thanks for your comment. However, the DNA confirmation statements you are using are much different from the statements I just created per your request, via the new DNA Confirmation Citation Maker that I used to create appropriate statements: https://apps.wikitree.com/apps/clarke11007/DNAconf.php

Your DNA Confirmation statement reads:

Paternal and maternal relationships are confirmed with a GEDmatch test match between Kay (Johnson) Wilson GEDmatch T596586 and her sister Lynn (Johnson) Andrews GEDmatch T408316. Their most MRCAs are their parents Douglas Johnson and Phyllis Smith. Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 1.2, based on sharing 2654.8 cM across 46 segments.

Best! Richard J.

posted by Richard (Jordan) J
My statement was created before the DNA Confirmation Maker was developed, but I believe it is consistent with the format of the "Simple DNA Match" which is to be used when the matching test takers are third cousins or closer.
posted by Kay (Johnson) Wilson
thanks for the merge help im new here
posted by [Living Coombes]
You're welcome, Phelps!

You still need to complete the merge. On either profile, scroll down to the lower left of the page, in the "Matches and Merges" section, and click on the "merge" link just below Don's name. That will take you to a page where you can complete the merge. Let me know if you don't understand, or if you still have questions. Thanks!

posted by Kay (Johnson) Wilson

Thank you so very much for helping me with my family tree. As a newbie I appreciate all the help I can get! Karla Goddard

Hi Kay Johnson Wilson!

I'll definitely approve your merge of your record and mine of Louisa Tenney. Before I do it, I want to hear from you, and I want to update my WikiTree information about Louisa Tenney - I have her parents' names, for one thing.

People almost never reply to my WikiTree comments. I prefer to correspond by e-mail - I'm rsrichmond on gmail.

Louisa Tenney is my great-great-grandmother. How are you related to her?

posted by Robert Richmond
THANK YOU for the advice on my tree it really helped me out
I am trying to find out history for David Davis (b:@1771-1772 and died 4/1834 in Lewis Co., Kentucky. How do I search of Wiki Genealogy Feed to see if anyone is entering anything about this David Davis? It appears you added some info for David Davis.

Regards, William ("Bill" Davis [email address removed]

posted by William Davis
Thanks for pointing that out, Beryl. I've removed the DNA test information.
posted by Kay (Johnson) Wilson
Kay, I've noticed another oddity - I've messaged Susan DeFoe and she says she has no known connection to the Manchester line.


Thanks again...

posted by Beryl Meehan
Hi Beryl, Thanks for asking.

Both Susan DeFoe and Gershom Manchester are direct maternal line descendants of Mary Paine-49 (1616-1687), and would have inherited her mtDNA. (Note that both men and women inherit their mother's mtDNA, but only women can pass that mtDNA down to their children.) You can see how Susan and Gershom are related by clicking on the small green box, with the two arrows facing one another, that is just to the right of Susan's name (in the DNA Connections section) on Gershom's profile .

posted by Kay (Johnson) Wilson
Kay, that's brilliant. Both Susan and I are 9th gr-grdaus of Mary Paine.
posted by Beryl Meehan
Hi Kay, I just noticed the work you did on my many times great grandfather Walter Scott Cowan. Thanks so much! My biggest mistake when I first started at Wikitree was uploading a gedcom. And I was early in my genealogy search and didn't realize the value of sourcing and following established processes. It is volunteers like you who make Wikitree a great place to collaborate! Thank you.
Hi Kay!

Thanks for contributing to Puritan Great Migration profiles over the last six months. Every little bit helps, so please keep those edits coming!

Like all WikiTree projects we check in with team members twice per year and it's that time again. Please respond within the next two weeks to let me know:

  1. If you'd like to continue as a PGM project team member
  2. If you're happy with the team you're on (Research and/or Profile Improvement) or if you'd like to make a change
  3. Optionally, what you like since the reboot back in May or what you think could be improved. This could be something about Discord, or Google Groups, or managed profile spreadsheets, or challenge participation or really anything. If you like everything the way it is, you can let me know that too :)

If you'd like to tell me about a particular project or family you're working on, I'd love to hear about that as well.

Please respond to this message by posting a reply below or sending me a private message on WikiTree. I look forward to hearing from you.

Many thanks!

Brad Stauf, PGM membership coordinator

posted by Brad Stauf
Kay, thank you for your attention to Hannah Crosby, who is one of my direct ancestors and in a Mayflower line that I am documenting.
posted by Alan Jewett
Kay, thank you for the comments and corrections about the DNA statements on the numerous Acadian profiles you've attended to. It's much appreciated.

Cindy Bourque Cooper, co-leader Acadians Project

posted by Cindy (Bourque) Cooper
Yes I do think these two are the same, sorta new at this, so I will try to merge on my end. Have much more to add. I have all his childrens names and birthdays. He was my grandfather on my mothers side. Thank you for the comment!
posted by Elina Rowlett
Thank you. I am in the process of learning how to do this.All help is greatly appreciated. I haven't had much extra time to really learn what is what. I won't add anymore to my tree.
posted by Diane Green
Thanks for your note, Diane. You've created a lot of duplicate profiles, and also confused a couple of generations of one family.

Please complete the merges that have been proposed, and before creating any new profiles for people, look around a bit on WikiTree to see if there isn't already a profile for the person on WikiTree.

posted by Kay (Johnson) Wilson
Hi Kay,

Since you have been so strict with my profiles ;-)..............I see that you have your parents marked as DNA-confirmed based on a match with your sister. This match only confirms that you share the same parents but not necessarily both these parents. Your parents can only be marked as confirmed based on a test match between you/your sister and your parents. However, I do see you have more confirmations higher up in the tree. I like to advise you to copy them to the child's profile because they do confirm the DNA trail. I have many examples were the father did not supply the DNA. Had to tell my father and uncle a few years ago that their stepfather was their biological one. Them being 100% brothers, did not confirm the official father.

posted by Remko Stift
edited by Remko Stift
Hi Kay, You corrected the DNA match information on my ancestors recently. You changed maternal to paternal and maternal. The match was from a MT test. Does that confirm the paternal ancestry as well? Beth
posted by Beth (Jones) Gay
Hi Beth, Are you talking about the change I made on the profile of Amanda Jane Canterbury-456? You're correct, that if the match is from an mtDNA test, only the maternal relationship can be confirmed. But the DNA confirmation statement on her profile refers to a match on GEDmatch between you and your 3rd cousin. GEDmatch can only be used with autosomal DNA, but not mtDNA. Amanda Jane's parents are the MRCAs for your match with your cousin, and it is appropriate to mark her relationship to both of them 'confirmed with DNA'. If you still have questions, please let me know.
posted by Kay (Johnson) Wilson
Vielen Dank Kay für die Arbeit zu meiner Unordnung. Ich hoffe Du achtest weiter auf meine Eintragungen.

Gruß Utz

posted by Utz Bohlmann
Kay - I don't know how to merge these two. Maybe you can give me a pearl of wisdom! David Davis
posted by William Davis
David, It looks like you were able to figure it out.
posted by Kay (Johnson) Wilson
Thanks for the updates on the DNA confirmations. I started that work a while ago and forgot to go back with the revised guidelines concerning third cousins versus third cousins once removed. I've been making headway on DNA Painter and Chromosome mapping for Triangulation confirmations.
posted by Stormy Faw
Thanks for the merge proposal, Kay. I knew some work needed to be done with Philippa, and you reminded me to do it!
posted by L Sauls
Hello Kay!

Thank you for helping me merge my grandfather's profile. As time goes by and the more I visit where he lived with my newly married grandmother, I feel so much closer and really have a need for the file to reflect my love of him.

posted by Anne Langley
Thanks Kay for the merge proposal of Martha Barnes.

It appears we are 8th cousins twice removed thru: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Barnes-775 I checked GEDMatch and found that you match my Dad with about 7.3cM on Chromosome 18 and lesser amounts on 5 other Chromosomes. My father also matches at a very low level with Waugh Smith GEDmatch, who is listed on Barnes-775.

posted by Andrew Ross
Many thanks Kay! Hope I did it correctly. Cheers, Lynne
posted by Lynne Date
Thanks for your merger suggestions. When I was entering my ancestors some of them did pop up and I accepted them. I didn’t realize there was another method. Thank you.
posted by Terry Neal
Terry, When the profiles "did pop up" I'm afraid you mis-read the instructions. The box you checked indicated that the profile was NOT a match, and by checking that box you rejected the match and created a new profile.
posted by Kay (Johnson) Wilson
Thank you for your help with my tree. I am learning slowly but surely. I do not have very much time to work on my tree just a few minutes here and there. I appreciate any and all suggestions and tips. I will be adding some more of what you suggested just as quickly as I can.
posted by Wayne Stone
Hi Wayne, That's great that you've found the time to add profiles for more of your ancestors! I strongly encourage you to enter birth and death locations when you create a profile. If you don't know the exact city, a county, or even the name of the state can be extremely helpful. Let me know if I can help. Thanks!
posted by Kay (Johnson) Wilson
Kay, you understandably posted a comment on many of my profiles a statment sayin I needed to add a statement explaining how DNA was used. I am trying to correct those. But I do not understand what is wrong with the one on https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Little-3775/

Please clarify.

Jane, Your DNA confirmation statement on the profile for Meryle Little looks fine. It was added after I left the comment. Thank you for adding it! I've removed my comment.
posted by Kay (Johnson) Wilson
Thanks for the comment in the DNA. Sorry about the miss I'll get the other one removed this weekend and rework it when I have time and headspace to focus on DNA. Out if curiosity is there a tool In the works or exists in wikitree where you can put the info in of the three matches to confirm they count for seperate enough lines ? Keats thought it would be neat then it could auto fill in the confirmed as appropriate..
posted by Kristina Wheeler
Before you use triangulation for DNA confirmation, if two people are 3C or closer and share a MRCA, just use the regular method of DNA confirmation, using those two tests. If the relationship is >3C, then you need to look for one more distant cousin match to the same MRCA who shares the same >7.0 cM segment on the same chromosome. If you're using GEDmatch, compare the three GEDmatch IDs, using the 3D Chromosome Browser tool. At the very top of the resulting page, there's an indication of how much DNA the test takers share with one another. At the bottom of the page you can find the shared segment data, by chromosome. It doesn't auto fill the DNA confirmation statement, but provides all the information you need to write the statement yourself. If all three of the test takers don't have visible profiles on WikiTree, it's a good idea to name the MRCAs of the three, and how they're related.
posted by Kay (Johnson) Wilson
does it really matter about du[licates?
Yes, Elizabeth, it really does matter about duplicates. Please re-read the Honor Code that you signed on 23 April 2020: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Special:Honor_Code The first item says we collaborate. Click on the link to "same ancestor profiles" which takes you to this page https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Help:Collaboration and look at item #2: Collaboration means "one profile for every individual". "Every person who ever lived should have one and only one profile on WikiTree. If a duplicate profile has been created unintentionally we merge them."
posted by Kay (Johnson) Wilson
Can you explain to me why "References" are being moved under "Sources"? References are not sources. They are footnotes. It clutters up the sources and makes reading very awkward if not down right difficult, especially when there are a lot of references. When I first joined seven years ago they were classed correctly. The reason I ask is every time any one of the team leaders or group leaders edits one of the profiles on my watch list they always move the references up to the first thing under sources. It seems to be a formatting rule. Until a year or so ago there was always a "= Footnotes =" section.
posted by Dave McNally
Hi Dave,

It's the standard now. See this page: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Help:Biographies

posted by Kay (Johnson) Wilson
Thanks for the edit on some of my pages. I’ve been doing a lot of adopting of pages. It’s to bad though, it would have been someone who was related to me.
posted by Alice (Galligan) Glassen
edited by Alice (Galligan) Glassen
You're welcome, Alice.

I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean by "It's too bad though". What is too bad?

posted by Kay (Johnson) Wilson
Kay, Thanks for your help...I am having problems trying to get Ellen Florida Wilder Whitlock to show on her husband's family tree page...I suppose I need to move her family to the same page, but I have the Whitlocks and the Wilders on separate pages, and Florida's profile is a Wilder +#, and not a Whitlock. Is there any to fix this? I'd just as soon delete pages, and start over. Kathy Wingate
posted by Kathy Wingate
I merged George Randolph Joseph Maule (Maule-273) and Joseph Randolph Anthony Maule (Maule-264) as you suggested, but I have no idea what it should really look like. If you do, please clean it up.
posted by Chris Garrigues
Hi Chris, Thanks for completing the merge. I can't clean it up for you because of the privacy level on the profile (private with public biography). I can see that when you completed the merge you kept everything from each of the two profiles, so that half of everything in the biography should be removed just because it's duplicate information. What is in the biography is from a gedcom you imported in 2017. It would probably be a good idea for you to re-write it in a more user-friendly format. Unfortunately gedcom imports don't create very readable biographies.
posted by Kay (Johnson) Wilson
LOL -- I give up and will merge the two John Lloyd Howell ... decided that my dec'd cousin William Cozby (former Mayor in Coppell, TX) may have been confused or that I confused what he said .... so now there is only one John Lloyd Howell
posted by Susan Smith
Thanks Kay for fixing Rebecca Wells Turley and... I forget who else, but thanks! Sadly, it's just a reminder of how much work I have yet to do on my profiles (sigh).
posted by Gregory Morris

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