Katherine Ann Johnson, the daughter of Douglas Johnson and Phyllis Smith, was born September 27, 1943 in Schenectady, New York.
DNA
Paternal and maternal relationships are confirmed with a GEDmatch test match between Kay (Johnson) Wilson GEDmatch T596586 and her sister Lynn (Johnson) Andrews GEDmatch T408316. Their most MRCAs are their parents Douglas Johnson and Phyllis Smith. Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 1.2, based on sharing 2654.8 cM across 46 segments.
Sources
United States of America, Bureau of the Census; Washington, D.C.; Seventeenth Census of the United States, 1950; Record Group: Records of the Bureau of the Census, 1790-2007; Record Group Number: 29; Residence Date: 1950; Home in 1950: Schenectady, Schenectady, New York; Roll: 218; Sheet Number: 267; Enumeration District: 70-110
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It may be possible to confirm family relationships by comparing test results with Kay or other carriers of her ancestors' mitochondrial DNA.
Mitochondrial DNA test-takers in the direct maternal line:
Kay (Johnson) Wilson:
Family Tree DNA mtDNA Test Full Sequence, haplogroup H10e, FTDNA kit #95490
It is likely that these autosomal DNA test-takers will share some percentage of DNA with Kay:
Hi Kay, just found we are 8th cousins twice X through William Tuttle of New Haven. Always glad to greet a new cousin, especially one as helpful as you. Speaking of you, this word always appears on my comments instead of my name and I don’t like it. HELP!!!! How can I change it???? With special thoughts. Lula Tuttle Sinnott
Kay, I appreciate the fact that you want DNA relationships properly represented on individual profiles. I also appreciate your notificatipn of same. I do not however appreciate you changing my DNA relationships without giving me a window to properly document DNA relationships of MY FAMILY ANCESTORS MYSELF. Please kindly refrain from editing my ancestors. Your time and consideration in this matter is greatly appreciated. Are you trolling everyone’s profiles in an official capacity as “The DNA DOCUMENTATION POLICE”. If you look further, you would see I supported my DNA with photos of my connections through Ancestry Tru Lines.
See specifically the instructions that say “If there isn't a proper source citation for a DNA-confirmed conclusion the relationship status should be changed by you or another member to Confident.”
You will be able to mark any appropriate parental relationships ‘confirmed with DNA’ again, just as soon as you’ve added appropriate citations. I think you will find the DNA Confirmation Citation Maker app very helpful.
You should also be aware that Ancestry ThruLines can never be used on WikiTree to confirm any relationships. ThruLines should only be used as “hints” to relationships. Because they are based on Ancestry trees, if those trees are wrong (which is not uncommon), then ThruLines can be extremely misleading.
Please let me know if you still don't understand, or if there’s anything I can do to help.
Hello Kay, You flagged many of my profiles as incomplete or missing. So many that I chose to remove the DNA confirmed for all of them. I do not much care to take the time to prove a relative or ancestor is a triangulated match. The only time it should be of real concern is when trying to determine adoptive paternity. I will leave that to adoption angels from here on.
Kay, thank you for looking at my DNA confirmations. I appreciate it as I knew I didn't do them right but need to sit down and really spend time redoing them. k
Kay, thank you for looking at my DNA confirmations. I appreciate it as I knew I didn't do them right but need to sit down and really spend time redoing them. Maybe this weekend. You are the BEST!
Kay Wilson.
Have You been busy or What!!!
Thanks For find the Mergers..
I'm Honored that .
You help in My..Wikitree ..
And Your..Service to Myself and Others..
Cousin Mike...
Your James Savery was quite a character...
The case of the eccentric but brilliant James
Savery· was the most noted of the church trials
of this society. Charged with "unchristian walk
and conversation, particularly in absenting himself from the bouse of worship, traveling here and
there on the Lord's Day, unchristian feeling and
conversation towards those of his brethren who
. had labored to redeem him," he became the topic
for discussion throughout the Precinct.
Previous steps had been taken to redeem him,
both on the part of the brethren and the cburch,
when it was decided to take the third gospel step
·While a man of sterling character, Jam8!l Savery WB8 so eccentric 8S to antagonire the conventionality of common folks.
With Albert Shurtleff he shocked the tbougbtlellll people of tbe
town, by voting for abolition long before tbe rank and file could see anything objectional in chattel Blavery.
118 HISTORY OF CARVER
and he was suspended until such time as he should
make Christian satisfaction. Mter five years of
rebellion he went forward, confessed his misdemeanors and was restored to fellowship. Again
he came before the disciplinarians when, in 1823,
a committee was named to labor with him in regard to making a disturbance in the choir, an.d
failing to come to an agreement, Nathan Cobb was
detailed to call on him and respectfully request
him not to sing in such a manner as to interrupt
the singers. The following year he faced trial on
an indictment of four counts as follows filed by
Bennett Cobb:
Cutting wood on the Lord's Day.
Disturbing the choir by irregular manners.
Casting reflections upon the singers.
Disturbing the religious services of the young.
Mter a patient hearing during which the defendant was unyielding, Savery the eccentric, was
excommunicated. Still belligerent he continued
the contest, until his case went up on appeal to a
Council of Ministers. In this Council he was overruled, the church proceedings covering the trial
were adjudged regular, and in 1831 he made a full
confession and was restored to fellowship in the
church.
Thanks, Ray! I've added a link to that site to James's profile.
Please remember that on WikiTree it's not okay to copy/paste from other websites. It's best to summarize the information in your own words, and provide a link to the source for people to find more detail for the information.
Hi Kay, Just a quick note to thank you for the changes that you made this last week to some of my postings on the Doanes/Witts/DeWitts that we communicated about in our correspondences. I have more to add to many in my tree and hopefully I can finally get around to it. Bless you and thanks for all your great work. Marv
Thanks for saying okay to the merge, Lula. You’re the profile manager for both of those profiles, so you can complete the merge yourself. I’m not a profile manager for either, so I can’t.
On https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Truelock-11 scroll down to the bottom of the profile. On the lower left side in the “Matches and Merges” section, click on the link that says [merge]. You will be taken to a page where you can complete the merge yourself.
Kay
Maggie, I appreciate that you agree that the two profile should be merged, but I'm afraid that I can't complete the merge for you. That has to be done by the profile managers.
Hi Kay! Just wanted to say thank you for finding some documents on my ancestors William Cope-3109 and his wife Elizabeth a while back. I'm an amateur sleuth, and the things you found and updated on their profiles was very helpful and interesting. I really appreciate it!
Hi Kay, I noticed that you had entered information for Samuel Combs (Combs-3536). I was wondering if you had any source information for this? In particular, his marriage to Martha Langdon? I descend from his daughter Caroline Combs. Thanks!
Hi, thank you for so patiently explaining what I needed to do when I didn't take the time to look and research it myself first. That was very kind of you.
and since I know nothing about DNA testing and note that you had posted a DNA comment 2 yrs ago, could you help me understand your edit? I can't find the Father Status Indicator or even find the word "confident " on his page.
Is your edit regarding Stephen as a father or Stephen's father(John William Burt)?
"11 Feb 2022
06:02: Kay (Johnson) Wilson edited the Father Status Indicator and Data Status (Father) for Stephen Evan Burt (abt.1854-1919). (marked parent(s) 'confident' instead of confirmed with DNA because there is insufficient documentation) "
Thank You
The profile for Stephen Evan Burt-1666 previously showed that his relationship to his father, John William Burt-3656, was 'confirmed with DNA'. Two years ago, in February 2020 I left a comment indicating that there wasn't sufficient information on the profile for that relationship status, provided a link to the instructions about marking a relationship to a parent 'confirmed with DNA' and offered to help. Then recently I came across the profile again, saw that the relationship was still showing as 'confirmed with DNA', but that the necessary information to document that relationship still had not been added to the profile, so I changed his relationship to his father to 'confident'.
The Father Status Indicator is found on the 'edit' page for any profile. On the right hand side, near the top, in the 'edit family' section, you can choose from 4 different relationship statuses for the person's relationship to his/her father, and also to his/her mother: non-biological, uncertain, confident, or confirmed with DNA. To the right of each choice there is a question mark in a small black circle. Clicking on that question mark takes you to a page explaining more about that relationship status.
I hope that answers all of your questions. If it doesn't, please let me know. Thanks!
(Wes Collinwood) I have just left a message for the profile MGR of Baumgardner 142, of the proposed merge. I have checked & the 2 are the same person. I have urged him to go ahead with the merge. Or you could do it, just let me know the results. Eve is my 5X great grandmother!
Hi Kay. Thanks for your comment. However, the DNA confirmation statements you are using are much different from the statements I just created per your request, via the new DNA Confirmation Citation Maker that I used to create appropriate statements: https://apps.wikitree.com/apps/clarke11007/DNAconf.php
Your DNA Confirmation statement reads:
Paternal and maternal relationships are confirmed with a GEDmatch test match between Kay (Johnson) Wilson GEDmatch T596586 and her sister Lynn (Johnson) Andrews GEDmatch T408316. Their most MRCAs are their parents Douglas Johnson and Phyllis Smith. Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 1.2, based on sharing 2654.8 cM across 46 segments.
My statement was created before the DNA Confirmation Maker was developed, but I believe it is consistent with the format of the "Simple DNA Match" which is to be used when the matching test takers are third cousins or closer.
You still need to complete the merge. On either profile, scroll down to the lower left of the page, in the "Matches and Merges" section, and click on the "merge" link just below Don's name. That will take you to a page where you can complete the merge. Let me know if you don't understand, or if you still have questions. Thanks!
I'll definitely approve your merge of your record and mine of Louisa Tenney. Before I do it, I want to hear from you, and I want to update my WikiTree information about Louisa Tenney - I have her parents' names, for one thing.
People almost never reply to my WikiTree comments. I prefer to correspond by e-mail - I'm rsrichmond on gmail.
Louisa Tenney is my great-great-grandmother. How are you related to her?
I am trying to find out history for David Davis (b:@1771-1772 and died 4/1834 in Lewis Co., Kentucky. How do I search of Wiki Genealogy Feed to see if anyone is entering anything about this David Davis? It appears you added some info for David Davis.
Regards, William ("Bill" Davis [email address removed]
Both Susan DeFoe and Gershom Manchester are direct maternal line descendants of Mary Paine-49 (1616-1687), and would have inherited her mtDNA. (Note that both men and women inherit their mother's mtDNA, but only women can pass that mtDNA down to their children.)
You can see how Susan and Gershom are related by clicking on the small green box, with the two arrows facing one another, that is just to the right of Susan's name (in the DNA Connections section) on Gershom's profile .
Hi Kay, I just noticed the work you did on my many times great grandfather Walter Scott Cowan. Thanks so much! My biggest mistake when I first started at Wikitree was uploading a gedcom. And I was early in my genealogy search and didn't realize the value of sourcing and following established processes. It is volunteers like you who make Wikitree a great place to collaborate! Thank you.
Thanks for contributing to Puritan Great Migration profiles over the last six months. Every little bit helps, so please keep those edits coming!
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Yes I do think these two are the same, sorta new at this, so I will try to merge on my end. Have much more to add. I have all his childrens names and birthdays. He was my grandfather on my mothers side. Thank you for the comment!
Thank you. I am in the process of learning how to do this.All help is greatly appreciated. I haven't had much extra time to really learn what is what. I won't add anymore to my tree.
Thanks for your note, Diane. You've created a lot of duplicate profiles, and also confused a couple of generations of one family.
Please complete the merges that have been proposed, and before creating any new profiles for people, look around a bit on WikiTree to see if there isn't already a profile for the person on WikiTree.
Since you have been so strict with my profiles ;-)..............I see that you have your parents marked as DNA-confirmed based on a match with your sister. This match only confirms that you share the same parents but not necessarily both these parents. Your parents can only be marked as confirmed based on a test match between you/your sister and your parents.
However, I do see you have more confirmations higher up in the tree. I like to advise you to copy them to the child's profile because they do confirm the DNA trail. I have many examples were the father did not supply the DNA. Had to tell my father and uncle a few years ago that their stepfather was their biological one. Them being 100% brothers, did not confirm the official father.
Hi Kay, You corrected the DNA match information on my ancestors recently. You changed maternal to paternal and maternal. The match was from a MT test. Does that confirm the paternal ancestry as well? Beth
Hi Beth, Are you talking about the change I made on the profile of Amanda Jane Canterbury-456? You're correct, that if the match is from an mtDNA test, only the maternal relationship can be confirmed. But the DNA confirmation statement on her profile refers to a match on GEDmatch between you and your 3rd cousin. GEDmatch can only be used with autosomal DNA, but not mtDNA. Amanda Jane's parents are the MRCAs for your match with your cousin, and it is appropriate to mark her relationship to both of them 'confirmed with DNA'. If you still have questions, please let me know.
Thanks for the updates on the DNA confirmations. I started that work a while ago and forgot to go back with the revised guidelines concerning third cousins versus third cousins once removed. I've been making headway on DNA Painter and Chromosome mapping for Triangulation confirmations.
Thank you for helping me merge my grandfather's profile. As time goes by and the more I visit where he lived with my newly married grandmother, I feel so much closer and really have a need for the file to reflect my love of him.
Thanks Kay for the merge proposal of Martha Barnes.
It appears we are 8th cousins twice removed thru: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Barnes-775
I checked GEDMatch and found that you match my Dad with about 7.3cM on Chromosome 18 and lesser amounts on 5 other Chromosomes.
My father also matches at a very low level with Waugh Smith GEDmatch, who is listed on Barnes-775.
Thanks for your merger suggestions. When I was entering my ancestors some of them did pop up and I accepted them. I didn’t realize there was another method. Thank you.
Terry, When the profiles "did pop up" I'm afraid you mis-read the instructions. The box you checked indicated that the profile was NOT a match, and by checking that box you rejected the match and created a new profile.
Thank you for your help with my tree. I am learning slowly but surely. I do not have very much time to work on my tree just a few minutes here and there. I appreciate any and all suggestions and tips. I will be adding some more of what you suggested just as quickly as I can.
Hi Wayne, That's great that you've found the time to add profiles for more of your ancestors! I strongly encourage you to enter birth and death locations when you create a profile. If you don't know the exact city, a county, or even the name of the state can be extremely helpful. Let me know if I can help. Thanks!
Kay, you understandably posted a comment on many of my profiles a statment sayin I needed to add a statement explaining how DNA was used. I am trying to correct those. But I do not understand what is wrong with the one on https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Little-3775/
Jane, Your DNA confirmation statement on the profile for Meryle Little looks fine. It was added after I left the comment. Thank you for adding it! I've removed my comment.
See specifically the instructions that say “If there isn't a proper source citation for a DNA-confirmed conclusion the relationship status should be changed by you or another member to Confident.”
You will be able to mark any appropriate parental relationships ‘confirmed with DNA’ again, just as soon as you’ve added appropriate citations. I think you will find the DNA Confirmation Citation Maker app very helpful.
You should also be aware that Ancestry ThruLines can never be used on WikiTree to confirm any relationships. ThruLines should only be used as “hints” to relationships. Because they are based on Ancestry trees, if those trees are wrong (which is not uncommon), then ThruLines can be extremely misleading.
Please let me know if you still don't understand, or if there’s anything I can do to help.
edited by Steven Morehead
Please let me know If I can help you with your use of DNA matching and confirmations on WikiTree. Kay
Maggie
Jill Cohen
Kay Wilson. Have You been busy or What!!! Thanks For find the Mergers.. I'm Honored that . You help in My..Wikitree .. And Your..Service to Myself and Others.. Cousin Mike...
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Your James Savery was quite a character... The case of the eccentric but brilliant James Savery· was the most noted of the church trials of this society. Charged with "unchristian walk and conversation, particularly in absenting himself from the bouse of worship, traveling here and there on the Lord's Day, unchristian feeling and conversation towards those of his brethren who . had labored to redeem him," he became the topic for discussion throughout the Precinct. Previous steps had been taken to redeem him, both on the part of the brethren and the cburch, when it was decided to take the third gospel step ·While a man of sterling character, Jam8!l Savery WB8 so eccentric 8S to antagonire the conventionality of common folks. With Albert Shurtleff he shocked the tbougbtlellll people of tbe town, by voting for abolition long before tbe rank and file could see anything objectional in chattel Blavery. 118 HISTORY OF CARVER and he was suspended until such time as he should make Christian satisfaction. Mter five years of rebellion he went forward, confessed his misdemeanors and was restored to fellowship. Again he came before the disciplinarians when, in 1823, a committee was named to labor with him in regard to making a disturbance in the choir, an.d failing to come to an agreement, Nathan Cobb was detailed to call on him and respectfully request him not to sing in such a manner as to interrupt the singers. The following year he faced trial on an indictment of four counts as follows filed by Bennett Cobb: Cutting wood on the Lord's Day. Disturbing the choir by irregular manners. Casting reflections upon the singers. Disturbing the religious services of the young. Mter a patient hearing during which the defendant was unyielding, Savery the eccentric, was excommunicated. Still belligerent he continued the contest, until his case went up on appeal to a Council of Ministers. In this Council he was overruled, the church proceedings covering the trial were adjudged regular, and in 1831 he made a full confession and was restored to fellowship in the church.
https://buzzardsbay.org/download/history_town_of_carver_ma.pdf
Please remember that on WikiTree it's not okay to copy/paste from other websites. It's best to summarize the information in your own words, and provide a link to the source for people to find more detail for the information.
Click here to compare the profiles side-by-side."
I have not done it because I am still researching a possible marriage certificate on Tennie and James's fake marriage under assumed names.
FYI: we are: Kay (Johnson) Wilson mother-in-law of 5th great-grandnephew of wife of 1st cousin 5x removed Add MyTreeTags™
edited by Jacque (Ragsdale) Koscheski
On https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Truelock-11 scroll down to the bottom of the profile. On the lower left side in the “Matches and Merges” section, click on the link that says [merge]. You will be taken to a page where you can complete the merge yourself. Kay
and since I know nothing about DNA testing and note that you had posted a DNA comment 2 yrs ago, could you help me understand your edit? I can't find the Father Status Indicator or even find the word "confident " on his page. Is your edit regarding Stephen as a father or Stephen's father(John William Burt)? "11 Feb 2022 06:02: Kay (Johnson) Wilson edited the Father Status Indicator and Data Status (Father) for Stephen Evan Burt (abt.1854-1919). (marked parent(s) 'confident' instead of confirmed with DNA because there is insufficient documentation) " Thank You
The profile for Stephen Evan Burt-1666 previously showed that his relationship to his father, John William Burt-3656, was 'confirmed with DNA'. Two years ago, in February 2020 I left a comment indicating that there wasn't sufficient information on the profile for that relationship status, provided a link to the instructions about marking a relationship to a parent 'confirmed with DNA' and offered to help. Then recently I came across the profile again, saw that the relationship was still showing as 'confirmed with DNA', but that the necessary information to document that relationship still had not been added to the profile, so I changed his relationship to his father to 'confident'.
The Father Status Indicator is found on the 'edit' page for any profile. On the right hand side, near the top, in the 'edit family' section, you can choose from 4 different relationship statuses for the person's relationship to his/her father, and also to his/her mother: non-biological, uncertain, confident, or confirmed with DNA. To the right of each choice there is a question mark in a small black circle. Clicking on that question mark takes you to a page explaining more about that relationship status.
I hope that answers all of your questions. If it doesn't, please let me know. Thanks!
Hi Kay. Thanks for your comment. However, the DNA confirmation statements you are using are much different from the statements I just created per your request, via the new DNA Confirmation Citation Maker that I used to create appropriate statements: https://apps.wikitree.com/apps/clarke11007/DNAconf.php
Your DNA Confirmation statement reads:
Paternal and maternal relationships are confirmed with a GEDmatch test match between Kay (Johnson) Wilson GEDmatch T596586 and her sister Lynn (Johnson) Andrews GEDmatch T408316. Their most MRCAs are their parents Douglas Johnson and Phyllis Smith. Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 1.2, based on sharing 2654.8 cM across 46 segments.
Best! Richard J.
You still need to complete the merge. On either profile, scroll down to the lower left of the page, in the "Matches and Merges" section, and click on the "merge" link just below Don's name. That will take you to a page where you can complete the merge. Let me know if you don't understand, or if you still have questions. Thanks!
Thank you so very much for helping me with my family tree. As a newbie I appreciate all the help I can get! Karla Goddard
I'll definitely approve your merge of your record and mine of Louisa Tenney. Before I do it, I want to hear from you, and I want to update my WikiTree information about Louisa Tenney - I have her parents' names, for one thing.
People almost never reply to my WikiTree comments. I prefer to correspond by e-mail - I'm rsrichmond on gmail.
Louisa Tenney is my great-great-grandmother. How are you related to her?
Regards, William ("Bill" Davis [email address removed]
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Manchester-505
Thanks again...
Both Susan DeFoe and Gershom Manchester are direct maternal line descendants of Mary Paine-49 (1616-1687), and would have inherited her mtDNA. (Note that both men and women inherit their mother's mtDNA, but only women can pass that mtDNA down to their children.) You can see how Susan and Gershom are related by clicking on the small green box, with the two arrows facing one another, that is just to the right of Susan's name (in the DNA Connections section) on Gershom's profile .
Thanks for contributing to Puritan Great Migration profiles over the last six months. Every little bit helps, so please keep those edits coming!
Like all WikiTree projects we check in with team members twice per year and it's that time again. Please respond within the next two weeks to let me know:
If you'd like to tell me about a particular project or family you're working on, I'd love to hear about that as well.
Please respond to this message by posting a reply below or sending me a private message on WikiTree. I look forward to hearing from you.
Many thanks!
Brad Stauf, PGM membership coordinator
Cindy Bourque Cooper, co-leader Acadians Project
Please complete the merges that have been proposed, and before creating any new profiles for people, look around a bit on WikiTree to see if there isn't already a profile for the person on WikiTree.
Since you have been so strict with my profiles ;-)..............I see that you have your parents marked as DNA-confirmed based on a match with your sister. This match only confirms that you share the same parents but not necessarily both these parents. Your parents can only be marked as confirmed based on a test match between you/your sister and your parents. However, I do see you have more confirmations higher up in the tree. I like to advise you to copy them to the child's profile because they do confirm the DNA trail. I have many examples were the father did not supply the DNA. Had to tell my father and uncle a few years ago that their stepfather was their biological one. Them being 100% brothers, did not confirm the official father.
edited by Remko Stift
Gruß Utz
Thank you for helping me merge my grandfather's profile. As time goes by and the more I visit where he lived with my newly married grandmother, I feel so much closer and really have a need for the file to reflect my love of him.
It appears we are 8th cousins twice removed thru: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Barnes-775 I checked GEDMatch and found that you match my Dad with about 7.3cM on Chromosome 18 and lesser amounts on 5 other Chromosomes. My father also matches at a very low level with Waugh Smith GEDmatch, who is listed on Barnes-775.
Please clarify.