John Jones (abt. 1529 - abt. 1565)

Born about 1529 in Treowen, Mitchell Troy, Wales [uncertain]

Died about 6 Dec 1565 at about age 36 in Mildenhall, Wiltshire, England [uncertain]

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Biography

William ap John had 16 children, including three sons named John Jones: one by his wife Ann Hawley, one by his wife Constance Morgan, and one by a mistress.^[1]

Research Notes

Profiles for William's children included ones for Philip and Elizabeth (Ann's children) with birth years of 1531 (for Philip) and 1533 (for Elizabeth). This profile, with 1529 birth year, would fit as first-born son of Ann. And one of the profiles for John had a death date of December 6, 1565, which would fit for him considering his brother named William, son of his half-brother John, as heir.

This source says that William's first son was John (but does not say who the mother was - one source says Ann was 2nd wife,^[2] while Bartrum says Constance was 2nd and Ann was 3rd, but dates work better if Constance is 3rd).

One John was the half-brother of Ann's son Philip (the John with son William who was Philip's heir). This John cannot also be Ann's son. It seems he would be Constance's son, as her son John is said to have married Ann, daughter of Giles Doddington. (But on Bartrum's chart, that John appears to be the one referenced as William's first son, and Bartrum has noted him as being son of Constance).

The father of William, heir to Philip, was said to have died before 1609, but to have been alive in 1604. See biographies posted by the History of Parliament Online for Philip and William.^[2]

Jonet ferch William Wogan is the only mistress Bartrum names, and Bartrum shows her as mother of Alswn and Richard. The mother(s?) of the third John (and second Elsbeth) is not named.

Sources

1. ↑ Godwin 3(F2) (#Bartrum)
2. ↑ ^{2.0 2.1} History of Parliament Online:
   • Philip Jones (d 1603)
   • Moore Gwillim (d 1611) (father-in-law of Philip's heir)
   • William Jones ii (after 1566-1640): William Jones, born after 1566,[1] was the first son of "John Jones of Treowen and Anne, da. of Giles Doddington of Fayland, Som., m. 1 Dec. 1599, Jane (d. aft. 1648/9), da. and h. of Moore Gwillim† of Monmouth, Mon., at least 3s, 4da. suc. uncle Philip Jones† 1603, fa. by 1609.[2] d. 27 July 1640.[3]
     

   [1] Approx. date of parents’ mar.: Gwent RO, D583.66.
   

   [2] J.A. Bradney, Hist. Mon. i. 306; Harl. 5058, f. 9v; Gwent RO, D/Pa29.1, f. 3; D43.4919; NLW, Kyrle-Fletcher, A(17). G.T. Clark claims there were 6s. (1 d.v.p.): Limbus Patrum Morganiae et Glamorganiae, 260.
   

   [3] Gwent RO, D/Pa58.1, f. 11.

• The Bartrum Project (digitization of "Welsh Genealogies AD 300- 1500" by Peter C. Bartrum)

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