Alice  (Judde) Smythe

Alice (Judde) Smythe (abt. 1532 - 1593)

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Categories: Ashford, Kent | St Helen Bishopsgate, City of London | All Hallows Lombard Street, City of London.

Biography

Alice Judde was the daughter of Sir Andrew Judde of St Helens Bishopsgate, London and Kent. Her year of birth is uncertain but was most likely between 1531 and 1533 (see sources below). Her place of birth is also uncertain but was most likely London.

The memorial to Sir Andrew Judde in St Helen's Bishopsgate, London indicates that he had a daughter from his first marriage to Mary (Murfyn). The daughter is not named in the memorial, however, given his second daughter was born in 1550 or later to his third wife, his first daughter must have been Alice.

In the visitation of London in 1568 Alice was recorded as the daughter of Sir Andrew Judde and the wife of Thomas Smythe. The visitation recorded 11 children of Thomas and Alice[1]. Two further children were born after this time.

Based on the earliest known child of Thomas and Alice, i.e. Mary Smythe baptised at All Hallows Lombard Street, London, in June 1554, it is assumed that Alice Judde married Thomas Smythe around 1553, and probably in London.

Alice was not mentioned in her father's will of 1558[2], presumably she had received her inheritance on her marriage to Thomas Smythe. Both of her brothers appear to have died shortly after her father and hence Alice may have been the ultimate recipient of most, if not all, of her father's estate.

The portrait of Alice (Judde) Smythe (private collection) is believed to be by Cornelius Ketel, painted in 1579. On the painting is written aetatis 46 (meaning age 46 or in the 46th year)[3], indicating she may have been born in 1532/1533. A copy of the portrait of Alice (Judde) Smythe is on display at Corsham Court in Wiltshire.

Of the nine children of Alice and Thomas that are known to have had issue a daughter, all nine named a daughter Alice.

Her husband, Thomas Smythe, died in June 1591 and was buried at St Mary the Virgin, Ashford, Kent. In his will[4] he bequeathed to his wife, Alice, for her natural life, his Lease and interest in his house in London, along with all the household stuff and implements.

Alice died in 1593 and was also buried at St Mary the Virgin, Ashford, Kent. The entry in the parish register reads: Alice Smith the widow of Thomas Smith Lord of this towne deceased at London & buried here the XXI st June 1593[5].

An impressive monument to Alice and her husband, Thomas (Customer) Smythe, exists in the church of St Mary the Virgin, Ashford, Kent. The monumental inscription indicates that she was 60 years of age [presumably, at her death].

Alice was also recorded in the Smythe family pedigrees at the Visitations of Kent 1619-1621[6] and London 1633-1635[7].

Summary of the Will of Alice (Judde) Smythe

In her will made on 10 Jul 1592, with a Codicil of 22 May 1593, and proved 11 May 1598, she was recorded as Alice Smythe of London wydowe late wife of Thomas Smith late of London Esquier[8].

The position with her husband’s estate must have been uncertain as she commented “as touchinge the disposicion of that porton which I have I would sett downe some certaintie although not so certenlie as I would yf her Maiesties sute were at an end and with the Executors of my said husband”.

She requested that she be buried in the parish Church of Ashford in Kent by the body of her husband “without any pompe or vayne glory or morninge Apparell other then for such morninge Apparell as I shall hereunder give”. She bequeathed mourning apparel to her sons and daughters, their husbands and wives, and servants.

She then described a number of legacies which were to be those delivered first by her executors. She willed that her executors should purchase land which would generate an income of at least fifteen pounds per annum and that these lands should be conveyed to the Company of Skinners in London. The Skinners were to give ten pounds eight shillings per annum to six Almshouses “in greate St Helins parish [St Helens, Bishopsgate, London] founded by Sir Andrewe Judde my father”; thirty six shillings per annum to three poor women in the parish of All Saints Lomabrd Street [London]; twenty four shillings per annum to two poor women of the parish of St Gabriel Fenchurch [London]; and the remainder to the poor of the Skinners. She bequeathed one hundred pounds each to the Universities of Oxford and Cambridge, for poor scholars.

Sixty gowns were to be provided to poor women; i.e. twenty gowns to poor women of the parish of All Saints Lombard Street; ten to the parish of St Andrew Undershaft [London]; ten to the parish of St Gabriel Fenchurch; ten to the town of Barns [presumably Barnes, Surrey]; and the remainder to other parishes in London at the discretion of her executors.

There were small bequests to her cousin Constance Glover, Thomas Stubberfield, Frances Jenkins and Mary Gyles; the poor of three parishes in Kent namely, Ashford, Stanford, and Postling; Christs Hospital; St Thomas’ Hospital; Brydewell Hospital; Alice Adison; John Stoddard of Mortlake; Mistress Grace Rosyer; Bridgett Hawkes and her son Thomas Hawkes; her brothers Henry Smythe and Robert Smythe; Suzanna Craunte and her son Thomas Craunte; Mr Churke; Mr Greeneham; Alice Kyte of Kent; Johane Garvie the widow of John Garvie als Gardeners.

With her first legacies completed she then made bequests to her immediately family. The beneficiaries named and their sequence was carefully structured suggesting that her 12 children and 26 grandchildren recorded in the will is likely to represent a comprehensive list of her immediate family living at the time the will was made. The members of the immediate family recorded were her:

son John Smythe, his wife (not named) and their children Alice, Margaret, Catherine and Elizabeth.

son Thomas Smythe.

son Henry Smythe and his wife (not named).

son Richard Smythe and his wife (not named) and their children Thomas and John.

Son Robert Smythe.

Son Simon Smythe.

Daughter [Mary] Davye, her husband Robert Davye, and their children John and Alice.

Daughter [Ursula] Butler, her husband William Butler, and their children Thomas, Oliver, Alice and Catherine.

Daughter [Joan] Fanshawe, her husband Thomas Fanshawe, and their children Thomas, William, Alice and Katherine.

Daughter [Katherine] Hayward, her husband Sir Rowland Hayward, and their children George, John, Alice, Katherine, Mary and Anne.

Daughter [Alice] Harris, her husband William Harris, and their children Thomas, Arthur, Alice and Dorothy.

Daughter Elizabeth Smythe.

There were also bequests to Master Sarjeant Owen [i.e Thomas Owen, Serjeant at Law, the father of Elizabeth Owen wife to the Testator’s son Henry Smythe], Master doctor Smith of Little Wood Street; Andrew Judde; Mistress Fisher; her brother Horsepoole and his wife; her cousin Kinge and his wife; her cousin William Horspoole; her cousins Simon, Thomas, Hawis, Joan and Katherine Horspoole; her sister Martha Goldinge and her two children; her cousin Johane Myller; Mistress Parnell Towerson; John Gathron and his wife; Alice Browne the wife of Henrye Smithe; George Gaywoode and his wife; Mistress Anne Coole; and Bridgett Birde Mistress Rosiers daughter. She also made bequests to a number of servants.

Her sons Thomas, Richard and Robert were appointed Executors. The overseers were named as Sir Rowland Hayward, Master Thomas Fanshawe and Mr Robert Davie.

In a Codicil dated 22 May 1593 she made additional bequests to many of those named above and to some further beneficiaries, namely: her sister Vynor; her cousin Henry Smythe and his brother Richard Smythe; Sir Drewe Drewrye; Mr William Worteley; Mr Richardson; and Thomas Taverner.

Sources

  1. Visitation of London, 1568: With Additional Pedigrees, 1569-90, the Arms of the City Companies, and a London Subsidy Roll, 1589. Publications of the Harleian Society. Vols 109-110. Edited by Stanford H and Rawlins SW. 1963.
  2. Transcript of the Will of Androw Judde 2 September 1558. Kent Archaeological Society.
  3. Hearn K (1995) Dynasties : painting in Tudor and Jacobean England 1530-1630. Tate Publishing.
  4. Will of Thomas Smythe of London. 29 Oct 1591. PROB 11/78/226. National Archives.
  5. Ashford Parish Register. Kent History Centre.
  6. The Visitation of Kent . Taken in the Years 1619-1621. The Publications of the Harleian Society Vol XLII. Edited by Robert Hovenden 1898.
  7. Visitation of London 1633, 1634 and 1635. Publications of the Harleian Society. Edited by Joseph Jackson Howard 1883.
  8. Will of Alice Smythe, Widow of London. 11 May 1598. PROB 11/91/377. National Archives.




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On 12 Mar 2017 at 17:40 GMT Kitty (Cooper) Smith wrote:

Judde-38 and Judde-2 appear to represent the same person because: Similar vitals, same husband. Please merge Judde-38 into Judde-2. Thank you!

On 25 May 2016 at 00:04 GMT Kitty (Cooper) Smith wrote:

Judd-607 and Judde-2 appear to represent the same person because: Though the vital dates are a generation or two off, I think these are the same Alice Judd/Judde. Please merge Judd-607 into Judde-2 unless you can provide a good source that shows they are two different women. Thank you!

On 13 May 2014 at 17:47 GMT Kitty (Cooper) Smith wrote:

Judde-20 and Judde-2 appear to represent the same person because: they have the same birth and spouse information. Please compare and merge Judde-20 into Judde-2 if you agree they are two profiles for the same person. Thank you. Kitty Cooper-1 Smith



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