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Rene (Julien) Julian

Rene Julian formerly Julien aka St. Julien, Julian
Born [date unknown] [location unknown]
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married 1700 in Isle, Bermudamap
Descendants descendants
Died in Winchester, Frederick, Virginiamap
Profile last modified | Created 23 Jan 2016
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Rene (Julien) Julian was a Huguenot.

Biography

René Julien and his family were living in Cecil County, Maryland, in 1712. The earliest record of René in Bohemia Manor is in 1720 as shown by land leases. The rest of the period from 1712 until 1720 is blank so far as he is concerned, except for the record of the birth of his son, Isaac, in 1716, which appears in the Register of St. Ann's Parish at Annapolis, which is now in the Hall of Records there.

René and Mary had seven sons and three daughters who grew up in Bohemia Manor, Cecil County, Maryland. Whether or not they were born there is uncertain. It is known that two of his daughters were married there, and it is probable that some of the other children were also. By 1737, When René assigned his lease in Bohemia Manor to Henry McCoy, he was 68 years old. It is assumed that this is the date of his leaving for Winchester, Frederick County, Virginia. René was still living in 1744, the last documentary date for him that is known to exist. It is thought that he and his wife are buried among the stones of old Opequon Cemetery near Winchester. The land for this cemetery was given by William Hodge into whose family their son Isaac Julien (aka "Julian") married.

The Julien family (Julian) is one of the most noteworthy of the old American lines. Today over 80% of Julian descendants trace their ancestry to René Julien. Numerous descendants of René Julien fought during the American Revolution, including Isaac Julien who received a Revolutionary War Pension. As our line of the family descended to the fourth generation in America the Julian family made its way to Tennessee. The family homesteaded East Tennessee in the early 1800's. Numerous Julian descendants from East Tennessee fought for the South during the War Between the States (US Civil War: 1861-1865) such as, Lt. John Julian of the 36th Tennessee Infantry, Sgt. Marcena L. Julian also of the 36th and William I. Julian of the 5th Tennessee Cavalry. The Julians became large landowners in McMinn and Bradley Counties in Tennessee and across the state line into northern Georgia. Volumes have been written about the family and extensive histories exist about the Julian families in America, however the following descendants of Count René de Saint Julien directly relate to the East Tennessee line and the descendants of James A. P. Guthrie and Mary Adeline Julian.[1]

He is listed as "St. Julien, René" on the Huguenot Society of America's list of Ancestors. Past and current members have joined the Huguenot Society of America by right of descent from the following Huguenot ancestors who qualify under the constitution of the Society. [2]

Death Date: 1745 at: Winchester, Frederick, Virginia[3]
Burial Place: Kernstown, Frederick County, Virginia[4]

Interred at Old Opequon Cemetery, Kernstown, Frederick County, Virginia


Many members of the Julien family, including Rene Julien, as well his brother Louis and his brother-in-law Rene Ravenel, accepted South Carolina’s invitation, leaving Ireland in 1699. Rene, Louis Julian (note spelling change) and Rene Ravenel, and their respective families, settled in or near Jamestown, South Carolina. Rene’s parents, as well as some of his younger siblings, may have remained in Northern Ireland, for one source reports that Pierre died there.

The ship carrying Rene Julien to the Colonies also carried the English Bullock (Bulloch) family. While en route it stopped off for water and other provisions at Bermuda. It would not have remained there long, but it was long enough for Rene to marry Mary Margaret Bullock. Rene and Mary had twelve children.

1. Stephen Julian, 1700-1773. He was born near Santee River, in Charleston Co., SC. He later lived in Prince George Co., MD. Married Allatha Buchelle about 1725. His second wife was Ann Hedges.

2. Infant, born 1701, died 1701.

3. Rene Julian, born 1704, and died about 1712 of “swamp fever.”

4. George Julian, 1706-1781; lived in Frederick Co., VA and later South Carolina.

5. Mary Julian was born about 1711 in Charleston Co., SC. She married John Thompson in 1734.

6. Peter Julian was born in 1714 in Frederick Co., MD, and died in 1806. He married Mary Bahls, and lived in Orange Co., NC. He was listed as a “Capt.” in the 1790 census.

7. Isaac Julian was born December 30, 1716, in Anne Arundel Co., MD, and died in 1778. He married Barbara White, and lived in Randolph Co., NC.

8. Rene Julian was born in 1718 in Cecil Co., MD (it was a common practice to name a child the same as one who had died). He went to Georgia with Gen. Oglethorpe. He married Catherine Biggs.

9. Jacob Julian was born ca. 1720 and died in 1751. He married Catherine Hedges. His will was probated August 30, 1751 in Prince George Co., MD.

10. John Julian was born in 1721 in Cecil Co., MD, and died in 1762. He lived in Orange Co., NC, and married Elizabeth Trogden.

11. Catherine Julian was born about 1722 in Bohemia Manor, Cecil Co., MD. She married Joseph Wood III on September 11, 1747, in Frederick Co., MD.

12. Ruth (Ann) Julian was born 1724 in Bohemia Manor, Cecil Co., MD.

Sources

  1. "A History of the Albert Taylor and Frances McCamy Rymer Families from 1680 to the present day,"
  2. Huguenot Society of America: Ancestor pages
  3. Source: #S-1259098864 APID: 1,70635::1251212
  4. Source: #S-1259098864 APID: 1,70635::1251212


Acknowledgements

  • WikiTree profile Julian-129 was created through the import of Donnell_FosterTREE gedFILE.ged on Oct 2, 2011 by Ann Fuller.
  • Family resources, History of North American Families,




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On The Huguenot Society Of America, they have Rene, listed as Rene St. Julien, not Pierre-Rene St. Julien. Why is there the name Pierre attached to his first name? I thought it was proven that Pierre and Rene are two different people? I just want to make sure I have the correct information?
Yes, Pierre and Rene are two different people. Rene is not the person born 4 July 1669 or the son of Pierre/Peter Sr . See my message of 24 June 2018 below, that the administrators of this profile seemed to have chosen to ignore, and continue to list the FORGED/FALSIFIED information above that the person born 4 July 1669 was named Rene.

You can see that birth record at: https://en.geneanet.org/archives/actes/view?idacte=311273&verifauth=1 and that it is Pierre, not Rene.

There is also an abstract of all of Pierre's children at: https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/records/item/635293-redirection pp. 143-144 Again, the name is Pierre, not Rene.

Note that that there are NO records of Rene as "St. Julien". All records are as Julien or Julian. The de St. Julien family of Pierre de St. Julien is a different family.

The actual Pierre de St. Julien born on 4 July 1669 died in 1719 in South Carolina. His wife was Damaris Elizabeth LeSerrurier. An abstract of his will is at: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C95M-PF5N

posted by Rick Saunders
edited by Rick Saunders
De St Julian-2 and Julien-147 appear to represent the same person because: Same dates & spouse, etc
posted by C Handy
This person had no name Pierre, and he was not born 4 July 1669 at Vitre, France. He NEVER used the surname "de. St. Julien". That is an entirely different family which is no known relation.

There was a person named Pierre de. St. Julien born at Vitre on 4 July 1669. Pierre (de) Saint-Julien, sieur de Malacare (NOT Pierre Rene) and his wife Jeanne Lefebvre had 3 sons (Pierre, Jr., Louis, and Paul) and 9 children total baptized at Vitre. ("Eglise Protestante de Vitre" by L'Abbe Paul Paris-Jallobert (Rennes, (France): Plihon et Hevre, 1890): 143-144.)

See also Transactions of the Huguenot Society of South Carolina, 10: 26-29, 11: 25-44 and 105:70-87 (particularly the latter) for more information on this "de St. JULIEN" family.

posted by Rick Saunders
St. Julian-1 and Julien-147 appear to represent the same person because: Duplicate. Julian is an anglicized version of the name, used after his time.
posted by A. (Garcia) Banks

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