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Barbara (Keener) Souder (abt. 1755 - 1821)

Barbara "Barbary" Souder formerly Keener
Born about in Lancaster, Pennsylvaniamap
Ancestors ancestors
Wife of — married about 1777 in Of, Lancaster, Lancaster, Pennsylvaniamap
Wife of — married 1792 in Pennsylvania or Virginiamap
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 66 in Greene, Pennsylvania, United Statesmap
Profile last modified | Created 22 Sep 2010
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Biography

Barbara was born in 1755 in Lancaster Co., PA. She was the daughter of Ulrich Keener I and Elizabeth Ann (Ehrehard) Keener. Marriage:[1]Barbary died on 21 August 1820 and was buried in Sebastian Keener Cemetery, Greene Township, Greene County, Pennsylvania, United States.[2]

  • Fact: Death: 21 Aug 1820 Greene Twp., Greene Co., Pennsylvania, USA

Notes

There are additional sources with no facts or date. Often these are sources for the baptism or marriage of children that mention the parents or father. This section can just be removed if you will be adding those children and using these sources there.Unclassified: Title: Pennington.FTW. NOTEPennington.FTW, Source Medium: Other. (accessed before 22 September 2010)

Sources

  1. Birth: Title: One World Tree www.ancestry.com. NOTEOne World Tree www.ancestry.com. (accessed before 22 September 2010)
  2. Burial: "U.S., Find a Grave® Index, 1600s-Current"
    Find A Grave: Memorial #26541492
    Ancestry Record 60525 #82984040 (accessed 26 February 2024)
    Barbary Masters burial (died on 21 Aug 1820) in Sebastian Keener Cemetery, Greene Township, Greene County, Pennsylvania, United States of America. Born in 1756.
  • Probate: "Pennsylvania, U.S., Wills and Probate Records, 1683-1993"
    Will Abstracts, 1721-1820; Probate Place: Lancaster, Pennsylvania
    Ancestry Sharing Link - Ancestry Record 8802 #484455 (accessed 26 February 2024)
    Barbara Keener probate in 1721-1820 in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA.

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Keener-363 and Keener-11 appear to represent the same person because: Same name, same parents. A birth date of 1756 is not plausible relative to the marriage date. Use 1742.
posted by Neal Parker
I reverted and edited the profile as there are minimal sources, ensuring that the FindAGrave citation is correct. That is all II have time to do at present.

This family needs sorting out, and we would appreciate any changes being brought to the Profile Managers before they are made due to the scarcity of records in the timeframe and known issues.

Thank you for the additional info, Rhonda.

posted on Keener-363 (merged) by [Living Moore]
Is there a Marriage record for Barbara Keener and Rudolph Souder? She is far too young to have married him. The FamilySearch tree adds Mennonite records, for Rudolph married to Barbara Unknown... no reference to Keener. It seems the birthdaye is incorrect and Barbara Keener b. 1756 should be detached from Rudolph Souder. Also, the correct birthdate for Barbara Keener is likely 1742 as in Keener-11.
posted on Keener-363 (merged) by Kie (Entrikin) Zelms
Rudolph and Barbara reportedly had a daughter Mary Magdalene Souder born 1780 whose married name was Sadler, and who died after 1850. Barbara’s children with Henry Masters were born between 1790 and 1816. If she were born in 1742 she would have been too old. Her headstone gives her age as 65 in 1821. I found this family history, which gives a birthdate of 1755:

“25 vii. Barbary Keener, born 1755 in near Narrow Passage, Frederick (now Shenandoah), VA; died August 21, 1820 in Greene County, PA; married (1) Rudolph Souder c. 1766 in Frederick (now Shenandoah) County, VA?; married (2) Henry Masters Aft. April 9, 1784 in Greene County, PA?.”

Both birth dates are somewhat problematic, making either her or her mother too old to have children.

As I stated below, 1777 is a more reasonable marriage date for Rudolph and Barbara. Ulrich Keener’s will dated 9 April 1784 lists her as Barbary Souter, so her marriage to Henry Masters was AFTER not ON that date.

posted on Keener-363 (merged) by Rhonda (Brymm) Steedman
Mary Magdalena Souder was the daughter of Rudolph Souder and his first wife, Veronica Schwartz, according to the Mennonite records here. here for some reason, the first wife is at the bottom of the card and her children are on the back.

Mary Magdalena was born in 1746 and married Jacob Sadler in 1769 according to FamilySearch, so I do not see how she can possibly be the daughter of Barbara Keener b in 1742 or in 1756.

posted on Keener-363 (merged) by Kie (Entrikin) Zelms
These Mennonite Index cards create doubt that the Barbara Keener who married Rudolph Souter and the Barbara who married Henry Masters are the same person. Specifically, the notation of a will in 1804 for Barbara Souter cannot be reconciled with the death of Barbara, wife of Henry Masters in 1820.

I think the card indicates that Veronica Swartz was a daughter of Rudolph Souder by his first wife, whose name is unknown, Magdalena is also listed as a daughter of the first wife, and they also had a daughter named Barbara. Could this daughter possibly be the Barbara who married Henry Masters? This might explain the confusion and conflicting ages. I appreciate your questioning the assumptions about Barbara’s identity.

posted on Keener-363 (merged) by Rhonda (Brymm) Steedman
Yes, Rhonda, you are correct, Veronica was a daughter of Rudolph's first wife LNAB Unknown, along with Magdalena and, yes, another child, Barbara, the youngest, who might have been born in 1756, but who would not have been Barbara Keener. Those dates would make sense. I suspect Barbara Souter, who left an 1802 will was the widow of Rudolph or possibly his daughter if she never married. Perhaps her will would have helpful details.

I hated to be a pest, but, once I was in the Keener rabbit warren, I couldn't stop the tour. Plus, my great great grandmother's family was from Whitely Township, Green County and Monongalia Co. W Virginia.;-)

posted on Keener-363 (merged) by Kie (Entrikin) Zelms
Did she really marry Rudolph Stouder when she was 6 to 7 years old?
posted on Keener-363 (merged) by Melvin Williams Jr
Family Search Family tree gives a more believable date of about 1777, and indicates she was his second wife. I have an unsourced notation for a 1766 marriage, and that they had a daughter named Mary Magdalene Souder Sadler. Evidently Rudolph died before Barbara was married on 9 Apr 1784 to Henry Masters, source for that date this message: http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.masters/674.1.1/mb.ashx
posted on Keener-363 (merged) by Rhonda (Brymm) Steedman

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