When Mary Maria KETNER Ottinger was born on March 26, 1806, in Virginia, her father, John, was 31, and her mother, Elizabeth, was 29. She married Henrich Henry Ludwick Ottinger on March 12, 1825, in Greene, Tennessee. They had 14 children in 25 years. She died on June 30, 1878, in Cocke, Tennessee, at the age of 72, and was buried in Greene, Tennessee. A son David 1833-1850 may have been a twin of son George 1833-1863 Rebecca
Mary was a daughter of John and Elizabeth (Hulver) Ketner. She had two brothers and two sisters.
She married Henry Ludwig Ottinger, date and location unknown. They are said to have had 21 children, fourteen sons and seven daughters.
Burial: Saint James Lutheran Church Cemetery, Saint James, Greene County, Tennessee.
Mary Ottinger in the 1850 United States Federal Census: Name Mary Ottinger Gender Female Race White Age 45 Birth Year abt 1805 Birthplace Tennessee Home in 1850 District 11, Cocke, Tennessee, USA Line Number 6 Dwelling Number 866 Family Number 866 ///// Household Members: Henry L Ottinger 54 // Mary Ottinger 45 // Jonathan Ottinger 1827-1870 21 // Elizabeth Ottinger 1831-1874 19 // Hannah Ottinger 1832-1903 18 // George Ottinger 1833-1863 twin 16 // Andrew Ottinger 1835-1911 15 // Catherine Ottinger 1839-1815 12 // Henry Ottinger 1840-1901 9 // Mary Ottinger 1842-1875 5 // Ephraim Ottinger 1845-1904 3 // Ceram (Siram) Ottinger 1847-1924 2 //
https://gw.geneanet.org/conroyj?n=ketner&oc=&p=mary&
A son David 1833-1850 may have been a twin of son George 1833-1863
I have found Rebecca Ottinger 1825-1870, married her 2nd cousin John Henry Ottinger 1821-1905, wasn't in the 1850 census of her parents.
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Elizabeth and Rebecca are sisters and had more siblings
How do we reconcile dates of birth and death. The Findagrave record doesn't mention Ketner and, while it lists seven children, it omits Rebecca, who would evidently have been the first born -- an odd child to omit. Can you shed any light on that? I seem to have misplaced any references to the dates I recorded, unfortunately.
The find a grave list some but not all of their 13-15 children, named in census records 1850, 1860,1870. https://gw.geneanet.org/conroyj?lang=en&p=henry&n=ottinger
edited by Mary Ottinger
1860 census https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M8TW-YFJ Samuel is Cerum listed as F age 2, he is Sirom (Siram) Samuel 1847-1924. 1850 census https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MCDH-GZ8
Susannah Nehs (Neas) Ottinger married Henry "Big" OTTINGER (1793-1866) on 16 Oct. 1816 • Cocke, Tennessee,