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Joseph Kimball (abt. 1660 - abt. 1711)

Joseph Kimball
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Died about in Surry, Surry, Virginiamap [uncertain]
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Biography

Name: Joseph Kimball
Age: 22
Birth Year: abt 1660
Arrival Year: 1682-1686
Arrival Place: Virginia
Primary Immigrant: Kimball, Joseph[1]

Joseph Kimball is recognized by many southern Kimball/Kimbrell genealogists as the Progenitor of the "Southern" tier of Kimballs, Kimbels, Kimbroughs, Kimbells, Kimbriels, Kimbrells, etc,. who migrated from Virginia throughout the Southern States in the period 1700 to 1850 and beyond. (Bio originally written by Butch Kimbrell.)

His children were:

  1. Joseph Kimball Jr. 1700, Unknown, married Sarah Adams.
  2. Charles Kimball 1702, Unknown, married Alice Moore.
  3. Peter Kimball, 1706, Unknown Married Winnie Gilliam.
  4. William Kimball, 1707, 1767, Married Elizabeth.
  5. Benjamin Kimball, 1708, Unknown Married Lucy Shearin.

Earliest Records

SURRY COUNTY TITHABLES: 1693 Lawn's Creek Parish, upper Sunken Marsh Surry, Viriginia, Tho: & Jeffrey Busby, Jos: Kimball, Con Indian - 4.[2]

William Peebles who married both Judith Drayton and Elizabeth Busby, widow of Thomas Busby was grandfather to John Peebles Sr., whose parents were William Peebles and Elizabeth Hamlin and the step-son of Joseph Shearing. Joseph Shearin was the father-in-law of BenJamin Kimball , son of this man Joseph Kimball.

Thomas Busby was known for trading with the Indians. With this in mind, Joseph Kimball could have been the same. Joseph's sons Charles and William were well known Indian interpreters. Another Indian trader of the family was Robert Hicks. Robert was the father of Joseph Kimball Jr.'s wife, Sarah Hicks.

Charles City County Order book,1694-1700: "Joseph Perry brings action against Thomas Harrison for defamatory words,to 10,000 lbs. tobacco damages. Jury is impanelled with 12 men, and there were 3 witnesses, one being Joseph Kimloe" (Kimball).[3]

Death

Joseph died 1711 in Surry County, Virginia. Thomas Avent witnessed Joseph Kimball's will.[4]

When Joseph died, his estate totalled 10 English pounds. Francis Mallory was made the Executor of his estate, as he was Joseph's largest creditor in Surry County, Virginia. It took several years for Mr. Mallory to complete his task, though it's possible he was just a very busy man. He repeatedly missed court where he didn't show up to finish with the estate. At least six times he did not show up, leaving the matter to be continued to the next court date. He presented the final settlement in 1713.

Witness to will of Joseph Kimball in 1713, Surry

Kimball Joseph:Est- By John Simmons,Frances Mallory,Admin.Signed:Arthur Kavenaugh,Thomas Avent.June 15,1713 Book 6,page 180 From the Wills and Administation of Surry County Virginia 1671-1750 By:Eliza Timberlake Davis[5]

Research

11 Apr 1709. Chowan County, NC. Jacob COLSON witnessed s a deed from Robert Hicks to Arthur Kavanaugh of Meherin n River, 1280 acres (Note from Doug Tucker - Kavanaugh and Jacob COLSON were Indian Traders. Kavanaugh lived among the Meherrin Indians at a site near the mouth of the Meherrin River and Jacob COLSON was his close neighbor. This was before Jacob COLSON moved his family, including son John, south to the Roanoke River - then called the Marrotock River.) This Robert Hicks was father to Charles Kimball's wife, and Arthur Kavanaugh signed Joseph Kimball's will in 1713, Surry County, Virginia. Another signer to that will was Thomas Avent. 16 July 1716. Chowan County, NC. Thomas AVENT of Chowan Precinct, weaver to Jacob COLESON of Chowan Precinct, carpenter, for 4 pounds, 270 acres more or less at Mount Royall at the mouth of the first branch, joining the branch next to the mouth of the Morattock River as by patent to me 29 July 1712. Wit: Richard Moore, John Nairne. Registered 6 Aug 1716.

Joseph's sons Charles and William were young men, by the following we know that in 1717. Jacob COLSON was called before the Virginia Council along with James Lundy, Charles Kimball, William Kimbal l and Thomas Reeves. They were charged with "illegal trading with the Tuscarora's"

Found a John Kimball Charles City County Virginia, June 4,1694. page 179[6]

Research Notes

  • Needs Research: This profile—in particular the Research Notes that were merged from at least two profiles, but kept separate below—contains information, some conflated, about more than one Joseph Kimball. The origin of this Joseph Kimball is also disputed; there are multiple story lines to consider. This profile needs research to deconflate the information, move information to the correct profile, document the disputed origin stories, and modify the Research Notes into a cohesive refection of what is known and not known about this Joseph Kimball. Spratlin-29 16:50, 25 January 2022 (UTC)


Sources

  1. CHANDLER, M.J. "Emigrants from Britain to the Colonies of America and the West Indies." In The Journal of the Barbados Museum and Historical Society, vol. 36:1 (1979), pp. 28-43.
  2. Surry County Tithables.
  3. https://www.americantapestry.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Charles-city-County-Virginia-Court-Orders-1687-1695.pdf
  4. Avent Family Website
  5. https://www.bholliman.com/files/Surry-Co-VA-1671-1750-Court-Records-Holliman-and-Allied-Families-33pp.pdf
  6. https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/records/item/65179-charles-city-county-virginia-court-orders-1687-1695-with-a-fragment-of-a-court-order-book-for-the-year-1680?viewer=1&offset=0#page=182&viewer=picture&o=&n=0&q=


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I am doing the best I can ,with what I find. Ken if you want to help feel free. I only want to show facts myself. I am not the best Wikitree person. But I do try. I am starting to think that Joseph only had two maybe three of those children lised above,and there profiles maybe combined with fathers and son's sources mixed together. I am desperately try to sort this out.
posted by Teresa Davis
When this profile was created on 8 Apr 2011, it was for:

Joseph Kimball; Born 21 Jan 1662 in Ipswich, Essex, MA; Died 1669 in Ipswich, Essex, MA; Father Thomas Kimball (Kimball-59), died Bradford, Essex, MA; Mother Mary Knowlton (Smith-11004), died Ipswich, Essex, MA

So died young, presumably with no children!

Now Joseph was born in 1660 in England, died in Virginia at age 51, and was the father of 6 children. And he has no parents.

I guess it is possible the current Biography still represents the Joseph who was at one time thought to have been born 21 Jan 1662 in Ipswich, Essex, MA. But I don't think any of us want to revisit the change history to figure out what happened.

I recommend that someone decide who this Joseph Kimball is meant to represent, and define that person with one or two primary sources. Research can then proceed "outward" from those one or two primary sources while remaining consistent with that definition of who this is. Document it with a Note at the top of the profile defining who this is. See Knight-996 and Knight-3193 for an example of how this was done for two Peter Knights that were hopelessly conflated for a hundred years.

I then second Jack Day's recommendation to start deconflating all sources in the profile into one or more Joseph Kimballs down in the Research Notes, each with their own subheadings, each with their own one or two primary sources defining who they are. Keep the first Joseph Kimball with his confirmed information above in the Biography section as who this profile is. With a profile this confused, should consider only allowing primary sources into the Biography section until it is on a solid foundation.

posted by Ken Spratlin
edited by Ken Spratlin
A tree search for Joseph Kimball born 21 Jan 1662 in Ipswich returns 818 trees. That makes him widely-shared! Among the 818 are flavors of the tree with mother Mercy Hazeltine listed as mother instead of Mary Smith. And the first 100 I checked have ZERO records.
posted by Ken Spratlin
I am working on finding new and better sources. Thanks for the feed back. I may have a new lead on Joseph's father . But so far not turning out.
posted by Teresa Davis
When there is the possibility of conflation, I usually recommend that the possibilities be developed on the already existing profile. There should always be a separate subsection on Children in which the children are listed along with a source as to how you know each child was a child of this particular father and mother. I see a list of children on this profile, but no source as to where it came from. If the list of children is well sourced, then it answers the question, "who is this profile about? -- The answer is "this is the man who is the father of these children."


Then use the Research Notes sections to pose different answers to the question as to the man's origins. "Is this the Joseph Kimball who was in Barbados?" -- now you have a place to document the Barbados information, and whether it might (or might not) fit the Kimball who fathered the list of children. "Is this the Joseph Kimball of Charles City County, Virginia"? And place the documentation for such. Answering these questions takes months and years, so it's good to assemble the information currently available in as coherent a form as possible to assist future researchers.

When you think there is conflation, another approach is to have (two equal signs) Biography for Joseph Kimball of Barbados, (two equal signs) Biography for Joseph Kimball father of the children, etc, as well as (two equal signs) Undiffererentiated Joseph Kimball. That gives you places to assemble all the facts without prematurely trying to get them to fit. If in the end you decide it';s really just one Joseph Kimball, all the material is already on the profile. If in the end you conclude there are several, then some of the material can be moved to new profiles, already sourced. But I wouldn't rush to create the new profiles; the research is a lot easier if it's all on the same profile, and you have the freedom to move a specific land purchase from the Bio of Joseph Kimball A to the Bio of Joseph Kimball B when you're trying to see how things fit together.

posted by Jack Day
edited by Jack Day
Is the M.J. Chandler source (#1) for the fact above or below the ref tag?
posted by Ken Spratlin
The puzzle of the origin of Joseph Kimball of Virginia and of his progeny goes on. We really need a clarifying note by that Research Note above about the John Kimball of Charles City County Virginia. From what we now know there are at least three Joseph Kimballs mixed up in that narrative. According to Morrison and Sharples, the one who married Elizabeth Needham was a 1st cousin of the Joseph Kimball, son of Thomas killed in the Indian raid. That Joseph was a mariner and although there is no record of this could have traveled to Virginia and may have had a second illegal family. The Joseph, son of Thomas, who was impressed into his Majesty's Service and many say jumped ship in southern Virginia was firmly in New England in 1692 when his brothers vouched for him. Also, his birth and death dates are often confused with his cousin, the other Joseph. The latter Joseph disappears from the written record after this, so the jump-ship theory could be possible - just not proven. The Joseph who came thru Barbados did so from England (rather than New England) as an indentured servant. We now have Chandler's original paper published by the Barbados Historical Society showing that. The record of an "Con" in Busby's tithables could be that same Joseph. Also "Con" could be either Conscript or Convict - we just don't know. Another possibility is that there were more than one Joseph Kimball in the Surry Virginia area that keep popping up in the record and confusing everything.

Bottom line: There are several possible origins for our Joseph Kimball of interest. Until we have some consistent written documentation, I suggest that it's wise to refer to "a Joseph Kimball" instead of just Joseph Kimball when discussing this guy. To say the latter implies that there is only one and we actually know his origins.

posted by Larry George
edited by Larry George
Hi Larry, Do I read your comment correctly that this profile currently contains conflated information? If so, what source nails down the person this profile is meant to represent? Will, other? And if so, is the conflation common in other on-line genealogies (Ancestry, FamilySearch, etc.)?

Thank you

posted by Ken Spratlin
No, I'm just saying this history currently posted adopts one story line about Joseph's origin without giving due diligence to other options. None of them are well documented. In this narrative, Joseph is from England rather than New England. Chandler's paper published by the Barbados Historical Society does document a Joseph Kimball who was a conscript on a ship bound for the American colonies via Barbados. I have a copy of that paper. However, there appears to be no record of his arrival or that of his bondsman in the colonies. There is the tithe record of the Busby's showing a Joseph Kimball, Con (Conscript or Convict?), so this story line is possibly true.

Then there was the long held popular story of Joseph, son of Thomas who was killed in the New England Indian raid, being impressed into the Royal Navy and perhaps jumping ship in Virginia to become the Joseph of record. That Joseph does disappear from the written record shortly after 1692 when he was vouched for by his brothers since he was not yet 21. (Morrison & Sharples). Again, possible, but no conclusive documentation.

No one, except me perhaps, has considered that Joseph's cousin, the mariner may have traveled to Virginia and had a second bigamous family there. In looking at the various comments on Joseph of Virginia some have him married to Elizabeth Needham. She was Joseph, the mariner's wife. On Ancestry and elsewhere, data for these two Josephs is mixed up and inconsistent birth and death dates derived. Again, possible, but absolutely no documentation on this other than speculation.

Then there was a Thomas Kimball who was an indentured servant on a Gloucester Virginia plantation who was about the right age to have possibly had a son who might have been named Joseph. No documentation of a son, but certainly a possibility.

Then there's Jim white's book that gives a completely different story line where a family of American mariners (many named William Kimball) had estates near Calais, France and traveled frequently to New England and the Virginia plantations. He posits that this group which had some family at one time on Virginia's northern neck, gave rise to Joseph and the southern Kimball/Kimbell clan.

What I'm saying is that there are multiple possibilities for Joseph's origin with poorly developed documentation. To pick one theory as fact seems premature. There may actually be more than one Joseph who lived in the Surry, VA area at the same time thus muddling the history even more. Thus, I think we should say "a Joseph" was identified doing such and such or at some particular place until we know which Joseph we may be talking about.

posted by Larry George
I have removed both wives until i can find better proof to their connection to Joseph Kimball.
posted by Teresa Davis
Hi Teresa, when you detach parents or spouses, it's best to put a note (perhaps under 'Research Notes') in the biography along with a link to the detached profiles. This allows others to be aware of the detached spouses as well as the reason for detaching them. Thanks.
We do know that the earliest record of Joseph is a tithe record for Thomas Busby. So I assume that he was either living on Thomas Busby's premises,or in his home.So I am going with this for more sources..Wish me luck!
posted by Teresa Davis
edited by Teresa Davis
Teresa - I was puzzled by the annotation ", Con" following Jos. Kimball's name in Busby's tithables list under Earliest Records. Initially I thought it meant "Conscript", but now I think he may have been an indentured Convict.

From the web:

What were the three types of indentured servants? ... bound to labor for a period of years. There were three well-known classes: the free-willers, or redemptioners; those who were enticed to leave their home country out of poverty or who were kidnapped for political or religious reasons; and convicts.

I think we're going to find that ship reported by Chandler in the Journal of Barbados Museum and History Society was a whole boatload of indentured servants bound for Virginia

My take is that Busby had one indentured servant (Convict) and one Indian servant that he had to pay tithes on.

posted by Larry George
You may be right ! I never thought about that. Do you think maybe the Indian my have been Josephs wife? His assumed sons were born right after the date of the tithable list.
posted by Teresa Davis
Some researchers (and even my family lore) have suggested that Joseph may have had an Indian wife at one point, so that is possible. (My own DNA shows no Native American heritage, so either the linkage is wrong somewhere or the DNA is too weak to detect from that many generations back.)

I had never realized how many indentured servants came from England to the Colonies - by the thousands it seems. As to Joseph possibly being a convict, one could get convicted in England of simply blowing your nose the wrong way according to one article I was reading.

Let me address some of the issues raised in other Joseph comments on this site. The lore and fanciful tales of Joseph, son of Thomas, of Indian abduction fame in New England being in the Royal Navy and jumping ship in Virginia would seem to be a relatively recent invention. Morrison and Sharples, "History of Kimball Family in Americal from 1634 to 1897 and of Its Ancestors the Kemballs or Kemboldes of England" (1897) did not mention this story. However, they took great delight in relaying the story of Thomas' dying at the hands of the Indians in 1676 and the abduction of his wife and several of his children including Joseph. (Of course, that story was well documented by the press and the authorities at the time.) Their book was published in 1897, so that story may well have evolved after this time.

In M&S' recount of Joseph, son of Thomas, he seems to disappear from the written history after he was indentured, impressed into his Majesty's Service twice and his brothers vouched for his age. By the way, if you do the arithmetic from the age given by his brothers as I think you may have done, his birth date was around 1670 - 71 rather than 1662. I think 1662 is the birth date of the Joseph in the next paragraph and the data is mixed up.

M&S also clear up one of the other puzzles that various researchers of this site have posed. Joseph, son of Thomas, had a cousin also named Joseph who was about the same age and died near the same time - maybe a few years earlier. He was son of Henry a brother of the other Joseph's father, Thomas. Both Henry and Thomas were sons of Richard the Emigrant who led a large group of Puritans to the Boston area from Ipswich, Eng in 1634. This Joseph was a Mariner and could have traveled to Virginia as a Yankee trader although there is no record of this. He's the one who married Elizabeth Needham. It appears that he was born and died in New England.

The snippet someone posted from the Journal of the Barbados Museum and Historical Society showing a Joseph Kimball from England age 22 arriving in Virginia is a quote from Jim white's book, "Cathey Family with 32 Immigrant Allied and Collateral Families" If you look up White on the web, you'll find a lot of researchers hold his work suspect and say that sometimes he just makes stuff up. Let's assume that's an actual quote for the moment. I'm trying to get a copy of Chandler's original journal article so we can see what it says in context.

White goes so far as to speculate that the meager 10 Lb. Joseph Kimball estate probated by Mallory in Surry Co. in 1713 belonged to Joseph Kimball, the Mariner. However, he also goes on to say that the father of the 5 sons was a William Kimball from Westmoreland Co., Vir. rather than Joseph although I don't think there's any evidence of this. At this point, I personally do not believe either of these claims without proof.

By the way, note that there are two Benjamin Kimball records given as sons of Joseph of Surry Co. in this record. Benjamin A. Kimball and Benjamin Ansel Kimball. One would suspect that the two are one in the same and we need to de-tease and verify the data and merge the records. Note that they are listed as half-brothers of the other 4. Maybe Benjamin was a son by the Indian wife?

posted by Larry George
I did finally get a copy of the article from the Barbados journal. Always good to read in context..

M.J Chandler,"Emigrants from Britain to the Colonies of America and the West Indies", Journal of Barbados Museum and Historical Society, vol 36.1 (1979), pp. 28-43.

The list is of 410 indentured servants bound for the colonies. The Joseph Kimball in question is on p. 35. His bondsman was Benjamin Johnson - 3 of his charges bound for Barbados and 31 for Virginia. Joseph is listed as being age 22 and bound for Virginia.

The list is abstracted from lists somewhere in the 3-year span from 1682 to 1684 was made by a clerk in London, so one would suspect that was their proposed point of origin. Now whether they ever actually boarded ship or actually arrived at their appointed destination is another question.

It is probable that they came thru Barbados or the author (Chandler) wouldn't have been interested. Also the list indicated quite a few bound for Barbados, so it's probably safe to assume the whole batch came thru there.

Interesting that Ruth Kimbell Charles in "The Kimbell Trail" listed a man named Emerson as Joseph's bondsman. Maybe there were two different Joseph Kimballs from England bound for America in that general time frame? She didn't provide a source so we cannot check it.

We've yet to find a record of a Joseph Kimball (either from Mass or England) arriving in Virginia. We do need to see if there is a record of the bondsman, Benjamin Johnson, arriving there. RKC says Emerson wound up in Massachusetts.

posted by Larry George
I am still looking to prove the wives. Frances maybe Ellen Frances Simmions. The Shearin lady is still yet to be determined. If I do not find something on her soon other than FAG. I will remove her also.
posted by Teresa Davis
I am removing the above disputed origins. Joseph who married Elizabeth Needham,and Joseph who was the assummed son of Thomas and Mary,are two different people.And neither seem to be kin to this Joseph Kimball.
posted by Teresa Davis
I have removed Frances Simmons as a wife for Joseph. I do not think there is a Frances Simmons to be found. I will keep looking.
posted by Teresa Davis
Teresa, I see you added Frances Simmons back as his wife. What's the source for her?
posted by Jillaine Smith
Can we get a source for Joseph's marriage, please?
posted by Jillaine Smith
CHANDLER, M.J. "Emigrants from Britain to the Colonies of America and the West Indies." In The Journal of the Barbados Museum and Historical Society, vol. 36:1 (1979), pp. 28-43.

Quoting from the article: "This list contains the names of 410 indentured servants and the original of it is to be found in the Muniment Room of the Guildhall Library, London under the call mark MS 6679. ... The manuscript had been previously catalogued as MS 6243." Joseph Kimball, age 22, is listed as from Britain to Virginia.

Clearly the man who arrived in Virginia c. 1682 is NOT the same man who was born in Massachusetts. There were two Joseph Kimballs who are combined in this profile and need to be separated.

posted by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
edited by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
Have you read :

http://legendsofthefamily.blogspot.com/2014/10/joseph-kimball-carpenter-sailor-and.html This will explain why it is thought he went from Mass. to Barbados to Virginia.

posted by Teresa Davis
If you feel this is wrong,please make changes.
posted by Teresa Davis
So I found this today. Showing a Joseph,Charles and William Kimball . It's about a land grant in Surry co. Va. Sept,28,1728.

http://www.planetmurphy.org/pagebuild.php?pagebody1=TatumPeter1675-1771.htm Not sure if this is the Joseph of this Profile. I will keep looking.

posted by Teresa Davis
Thanks, Teresa. The referenced land deeds start 20 or more years after this Joseph's death, so must refer to 1-2 generations after him.
posted by Jillaine Smith
I know now that this is the son of Joseph.Also named Joseph. The dates confirm this.
posted by Teresa Davis
Kathrine Patterson and Teresa Davis, we need a good source for the Joseph son of Thomas and Mary being the man who ended up in Virginia, as well as sources for his wives and children. Can you help?
posted by Jillaine Smith
I will spend more time on this. Virginia Rebecca Shearin is my kin. It will be hard,I will do my best.Thanks
posted by Teresa Davis
Hey group, I am not sure if this is the best way to communicate. If not please let me know. For the sources listed 1 and 3 list Joseph son of Henry as the husband of Elizabeth Needham. I have add and linked them to a new profile for the second Joseph Joseph Kimball. Looking at the Family Search profile it is suggested they were married about 1701. I assume that is based of the birth date of their first son Joseph born in 1701.

Joseph son of Thomas is also listed in sources 1 and 3 but they do not say who he is married too. Reference 1 It does state (Judicial Records, 52, 68). pg. 43.

I am still looking for copies of NEW ENGLAND MARRIAGES PRIOR TO 1700, pg. 438., "THE KIMBELL TRAIL" by Ruth Kimbell Charles;1993; (It says unpublished but you never know), and I am waiting for a copy of CHANDLER, M.J. "Emigrants from Britain to the Colonies of America and the West Indies.".

We should completely disregard Find a Grave as a source. There are no grave markers as evidence. Elizabeth is attached to both Joseph's and may be attached to incorrect parents. Edmund Needham of Lynn, Mass., and his descendants https://archive.org/details/edmundneedhamofl00lind/page/n17/mode/2up/search/Elizabeth+?q=David+Needham+Chadwell suggest she was married to Anthony Sears. Someone also made a comment on the Find a Grave profile.

If we look at the Family Search Profile with the three wives there is an overlap with the children born, and look to have these two Joseph's confused. https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/L19C-KH1 Marriage dates suggested are Ellen Frances Simmons - 1697, Elizabeth Needham- 1701, and Virginia Rebecca Shearin - 1703. Or on this profile Virginia being the mother of all 5 children. If we believe that Charles Kimball is a son of this profile, Joseph son of Thomas could not have married Elizabeth Needham.


I still suggest that we disconnect Elizabeth Needham from this profile unless there is a reliable source that we can read.

posted by Kaylinn Stormo
edited by Kaylinn Stormo
I do wonder if two Joseph Kimball profiles where accidentally combined. The Joseph listed in the History of the Kimball Family in America, from 1634 to 1897: And ..., Volume 1, is married to Elizabeth Needham. He does not leave NH. If this Joseph did not marry a Elizabeth Needham, I recommend that detach her and start a new Joseph Kimball Profile. https://books.google.com/books?id=DrJsSz3KXHoC&pg=PA198&dq=Betsey+Scales+Kimball+Lovejoy&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiDuJiY9enoAhUKGDQIHX0kB9MQ6AEwAnoECAMQAg#v=snippet&q=Joseph%201701&f=false

There is definitely a tangle somewhere.

posted by Kaylinn Stormo
edited by Kaylinn Stormo
That looks right, Kaylinn. Would you help in the detangling?
posted by Jillaine Smith
If Joseph wasn't 21 in 1692 and lacked 5 months of being so , it would mean his birth date is 1670-1671 not 1662.Correct?
posted by Teresa Davis
Kimball-473 and Kimball-241 appear to represent the same person because: These appear to be the same individual and have the same spouse of Shearin-1.
posted by Tim Bittner

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