John Kingman
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John Kingman

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I need to break through the brick walls between my Puritan Great Migration (PGM) Henry Kingman (abt.1594-1667) ancestors and their English ancestors and also my maternal line back to Germany through Charles Cyrus Babst (1848-1938).

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John A. Kingman
Born 1940s.
Ancestors ancestors
Brother of [private sister (1930s - unknown)], [private sister (1940s - unknown)] and [private brother (1950s - unknown)]
Descendants descendants
Father of [private daughter (1970s - unknown)] and
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Contents

Biography

Descendant
Descendant of PGM migrant Henry Kingman and others (see bio).
This profile is part of the Kingman Name Study.
John Kingman is a member of the Kingman Name Study Project.
John Kingman is a descendant of Mayflower Passenger Mr. & Mrs. John Billington & son Francis (see bio).
John Kingman is a descendant of Mayflower Passenger Mr. & Mrs. James Chilton & dau. Mary (see bio).
John Kingman is a descendant of Mayflower Passenger Francis Cooke.
John Kingman is a descendant of Mayflower Passenger Edward Doty.
John Kingman is a descendant of Mayflower Passenger Mr. & Mrs. Francis Eaton & son Samuel (see bio).
John Kingman is a descendant of Mayflower Passenger Samuel Fuller Sr..
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Descendant of several Magna Carta Surety Barons (see bio).
John Kingman is a Military Veteran.
Served in the United States Army 1965-1967 attaining rank of Specialist E-5
Served during Vietnam era.

John Anthony Kingman was born in 1943 in Los Angeles, California. He is the son of Paul Henry Kingman and Cecile (Babst) Kingman.[1][2]

John married Drena Dawn Flynn in Los Angeles, CA, in 1968. They have two daughters.[1][3]

  1. April Anne
  2. Kelly Elizabeth

John grew up in West Los Angeles, California, and has lived in North Carolina, Colorado, Connecticut, and Texas. All of these moves were made while John worked for IBM. John joined IBM in 1967 and retired from IBM in 1997.[1]

John is an agnate of Henry Kingman (abt.1594-1667) (click to see the relationship) the first Kingman known to have emigrated from England to America in 1634-5.

John is both an 8th great grandson and a 9th great grandson of Henry via his grandsons Henry Kingman and Samuel Kingman, respectively. Although Henry was only one of John's 512 theoretically possible 8th great grandfathers and 1,024 9th great grandfathers, John's surname and Y-DNA came from him. (The line from Samuel is not patrilineal.)

Relationships

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John and his brother-in law Philp Henry Steward are 8th cousins twice removed (click to see the relationship trail).

Mayflower Ancestors

Elinor (Unknown) (Billington) Armstrong (10th great grandmother Confident)
Francis Billington (9th great grandfather Confident)
John Billington (10th great grandfather Confident)
James Chilton (10th great grandfather Confident)
Mrs. James Chilton (10th great grandmother Confident)
Mary Chilton (9th great grandmother Confident)
Francis Cooke (9th great grandfather Confident)
Edward Doty (9th great grandfather Confident)[6]
Samuel Eaton (8th great grandfather Confident)
Francis Eaton (9th great grandfather Confident)
Sarah (Unknown) Eaton (9th great grandmother Confident)
Samuel Fuller, Sr. (8th great grandfather Confident) [6][7]
  • John is also collaterally related to the following Mayflower passengers:
John Billington (9th great grand uncle Confident)
Catherine (White) Carver (11th cousins 10 times removed Uncertain)
John Cooke (8th great grand uncle Confident)
Edward Fuller (8th great grand uncle Uncertain)
Samuel Fuller (1st cousins 9 times removed Uncertain)
Gilbert Winslow (9th great grand uncle Confident)
Edward Winslow Jr. (9th great grand uncle Confident)
Richard More, Sr. (6th cousins 11 times removed Unknown Confidence)
Henry Samson (6th cousins 9 times removed Unknown Confidence)
Agnes (Cooper) Tilley (5th cousins 10 times removed Unknown Confidence)

Jamestown Society Ancestors

  • John is directly descended from the following Jamestown Society Ancestors[8] (click to see the relationship trail)

Other 17th Century Immigrants

John is descended from several other English immigrants who emigrated to America in the 1600s. They are shown on these pages:

Notable Relations

Notes:[9] As of 21 Jul 2021,
<1> This Magna Carta Gateway Ancestor is unconfirmed and may be erroneous.

Ancestral Surnames

These are the surnames of my ancestors as of 27 January 2021:

Click on Surname to view EKA - Earliest Known Ancestor
Ames
Babst, Ball , Basinger , Bates , Booker , Boulby , Brooks , Bruner
Carver, Crocker
Dawson, Dew
Edson
Fuller
Green
Harpham, Harrison , Hathaway , Howard
Kerling, King , Kingman
Lanning, Leichliter , Leighliter , Lester
Marsden, Messene , Miller , Mulford
Ogden, Olivant
Packard, Perkins
Ressler (Resler)
Stanton
Vanorsdol (Van Orsdall, VanArsdale, Van Arsdalen, Jansz, Van Aersdaele, Van Haesdale) , Vessey
Wier, Williams , Williams

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 Personal knowledge of John Kingman himself.
  2. "California Birth Index, 1905-1995," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VLJ9-Q9B : 27 November 2014), John Anthony Kingman, 16 Mar 1943; citing Los Angeles, California, United States, Department of Health Services, Vital Statistics Department, Sacramento.
  3. "California Marriage Index, 1960-1985," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V66T-CF1 : 27 November 2014), John A Kingman and Drena D Flynn, 07 Dec 1968; from "California, Marriage Index, 1960-1985," database and images, Ancestry (http://www.ancestry.com : 2007); citing Los Angeles City, California, Center of Health Statistics, California Department of Health Services, Sacramento.
  4. List of Mayflower Passengers on Wikipedia
  5. See the Relationship Finder's Quick Links for John
  6. 6.0 6.1 General Society of Mayflower Descendants, "Community Trees," database, FamilySearch (accessed 29 September 2020), entry for member Paul Henry Kingman, cites sources; "Mayflower Pilgrim Genealogies" file (2:2:2:MMXD-DP8), submitted 24 February 2020 by FamilySearch.
  7. My sister, Dolores K. Steward, was verified as a descendant of Samuel Fuller by the GSMD on 20 Sep 2006, based on my father's membership.
  8. List of Seventeenth Century Qualifying Ancestors
  9. See the Magna Carta Team Base Camp page.

DNA Confirmations

Paternal Confirmations

  • Paternal relationship is confirmed through Y-chromosome DNA testing. Peter Kingman, YSearch ID D8NMD, and John Kingman, YSearch ID KFTAS, match on 37 out of 37 markers thereby confirming their patrilineal lines back to their Most Recent Common Ancestor, Henry Kingman (born 1701). John and Peter are 6th cousins (click to see the relationship).
  • Paternal relationship is confirmed through Y-chromosome DNA test results on Family Tree DNA. John Kingman, FTDNA kit # N145956, and his 6th cousin, Peter Kingman, FTDNA kit # (private), match at a Genetic Distance of 0 on 37 markers, thereby confirming their direct paternal lines back to their most-recent common ancestor who is Henry Kingman, the 5x great grandfather of both John Kingman and Peter Kingman.
  • Paternal relationship is confirmed by an AncestryDNA test match between John Kingman and his niece Maile (Clark) Kaiser. Their MRCAs are John's parents and Maile's grandparents, Paul Henry Kingman and Cecile (Babst) Kingman. Predicted relationship from AncestryDNA: Close Family, based on sharing 1,653 centimorgans shared across 63 DNA segments; Confidence: Extremely High.
  • Paternal relationship is confirmed by an AncestryDNA test match between John Kingman and his first cousin Gordon KIngman. Their MRCAs are their grandparents, Edward Henry Kingman and Nellie Belle Howard. Predicted relationship from AncestryDNA: 1st Cousins, based on sharing 993 centimorgans across 39 DNA segments; Confidence: Extremely High.
  • Paternal relationship is confirmed by an AncestryDNA test match between John Kingman and his first cousin Daniel Kingman. Their MRCAs are their grandparents, Edward Henry Kingman and Nellie Belle Howard. Predicted relationship from AncestryDNA: 1st Cousins, based on sharing 972 centimorgans shared across 36 DNA segments; Confidence: Extremely High.
  • Paternal relationship is confirmed by an AncestryDNA test match between John Kingman and his first cousin Teresa (Kingman) Maloney. Their MRCAs are their grandparents, Edward Henry Kingman and Nellie Belle Howard. Predicted relationship from AncestryDNA: 1st Cousins, based on sharing 914 centimorgans shared across 38 DNA segments; Confidence: Extremely High.
  • Paternal relationship is confirmed by an AncestryDNA test match between John Kingman, and his first cousin David Kingman. Their MRCAs are their grandparents, Edward Henry Kingman and Nellie Belle Howard. Predicted relationship from AncestryDNA: 1st Cousins, based on sharing 823 centimorgans shared across 40 DNA segments; Confidence: Extremely High.
  • Paternal relationship is confirmed with a GEDmatch autosomal test match between John Kingman GEDmatch T782948 and his second cousin Patricia J. (Catey) Cook GEDmatch A447130. Their MRCAs are their great-grandparents Isaac Henry Kingman and Annie Elizabeth (Crocker) Kingman. Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 2.8 based on sharing 279.2 cM across 11 segments. Largest segment = 49.0 cM. Patricia is the daughter of Dorothy Johnstone and Daniel Catey.
  • Paternal relationship is confirmed with a GEDmatch autosomal test match between John Kingman, GEDmatch T782948, and his second cousin once removed, George Case, GEDmatch T699340. Their MRCAs are William Abraham Crocker and Jane (Harpham) Crocker, grandparents of George and second great grandparents of John. Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 3.3 based on sharing 156.7 cM across 6 segments. Largest segment = 74.0 cM
  • Paternal relationship is confirmed by an AncestryDNA test match between Russell Beck and his second cousin John Kingman. Their MRCAs are their great grandparents, Charles Wesley Howard and Margaret Cordeila Vanorsdol. Predicted relationship from AncestryDNA: 2nd Cousins, based on sharing 271 centimorgans across 13 DNA segments; Confidence: Extremely High.
  • Paternal relationship is confirmed by an AncestryDNA test match between Russell Dowdy, a grandson of Ada Lee Vanorsdol and his third cousin John Kingman. Their MRCAs are their great great grandparents, Manley Paddleport Vanorsdol and Mary Stratton Ogden. Predicted relationship from AncestryDNA: 4th Cousins, based on sharing 74 centimorgans across 8 DNA segments; Confidence: Extremely High.
  • Paternal relationship is confirmed by an AncestryDNA test match between John Kingman and his third cousin Nancy Paulette Gross. Their most-recent common ancestors are their great great grandparents, Isaac Kingman and Sibbil (Ames) Kingman. Predicted relationship from AncestryDNA: 3rd - 4th cousins, based on sharing 124 cM across 3 segments; Confidence: Extremely High.
  • Paternal relationship is confirmed through Y-chromosome DNA testing. John Kingman, FTDNA kit #N145956, and his 3rd cousin James Raff, match at a Genetic Distance of 0 on 67 markers thereby confirming their direct paternal lines back to their MRCA Isaac Kingman. FTDNA indicates that the probability the two share a common ancestor within the last 4 generations is 89.79% and within the last 5 generations is 94.23%.

Maternal Confirmations

  • Maternal relationship is confirmed by an AncestryDNA test match between John Kingman and his niece Maile (Clark) Kaiser. Their MRCAs are John's parents and Maile's grandparents, Paul Henry Kingman and Cecile (Babst) Kingman. Predicted relationship from AncestryDNA: Close Family, based on sharing 1,653 centimorgans shared across 63 DNA segments; Confidence: Extremely High.
  • Maternal relationship is confirmed with a GEDmatch autosomal test match between John Kingman, GEDmatch T782948, and his first cousin once removed Penelope Babst, GEDmatch M947987. Their MRCAs are Elmer Cleveland Babst and Myrtle May (Vessey) Babst, John's grandparents and Penelope's great grandparents. Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 2.5 based on sharing 442.2 cM across 21 matching segments. Largest segment = 59.0 cM.
  • Maternal relationship is confirmed with a GEDmatch autosomal test match between John Kingman GEDmatch T782948 and his second cousin once removed Kelly Miller GEDmatch A721343. Their MRCAs are Charles Cyrus Babst and Martha (Lanning) Babst, John's great grandparents and Kelly's second great grandparents. Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 4.1 based on sharing 46.4 cM across 4 segments. Largest segment = 17.3 cM
  • Maternal relationship is confirmed by a triangulated group on Family Tree DNA consisting of John Kingman, Denny Brooks, and JG, who share a 13.73 cM segment on chromosome 15. These matches have been independently verified by John Kingman and Denny Brooks using the Family Finder Chromosome Browser. John and Denny are 4C1R; John and JG are 3C1R; JG and Denny are 4C2R. The most-recent common ancestors shared by all three are Joseph Brooks and Dorothy Basinger.

Research Notes

  • MRCA: Unknown Kingman, b. Possibly Somerset, England.
    • Y-chromosome DNA test matching confirms that Gerald Kingman (FTDNA kit #214925, YSearch ID YUH8Z, and mitoYDNA Kit T10826) and John Kingman (FTDNA kit #N145956, YSearch ID KFTAS, and mitoYDNA Kit T10429) most likely share a direct patrilineal ancestor in a genealogical time frame. Their results match on 33 out of 37 markers. Family Tree DNA estimates the probability that Gerald and John share a common ancestor within the last 16 generations is 78%, and within the last 20 generations is 91%. No MRCA has yet been determined as John's Earliest Known Patrilineal Ancestor is Henry Kingman (1594-1667) who emigrated from England to Massachusetts in 1634/5 and is said to be of Frome, Somerset, and Gerald's Earliest Known Patrilineal Ancestor is George Kingman (1701-1748) of Farrington Gurney, Somerset, and probably extends to John Kingman born c1640 in Frome, Somerset.
    • Also see the Kingman of Somerset DNA results page for a view of known Y-DNA connections back to England.

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DNA Connections
It may be possible to confirm family relationships by comparing test results with John or other carriers of his ancestors' Y-chromosome or mitochondrial DNA. Y-chromosome DNA test-takers in his direct paternal line on WikiTree:
  • John Kingman: Family Tree DNA Y-DNA Test 700 markers, haplogroup R-BY3966, FTDNA kit #N145956, MitoYDNA ID T10429 [compare] + Y-Chromosome Test 15000 markers, haplogroup R-CTS12058
  • Peter Kingman Find Relationship : Y-Chromosome Test 37 markers, haplogroup R-P312
Mitochondrial DNA test-takers in the direct maternal line:
  • John Kingman: Family Tree DNA mtDNA Test HVR1 and HVR2, haplogroup J1c5, FTDNA kit #N145956, MitoYDNA ID T10430 [compare] + Mitochondrial DNA Test Other, haplogroup J1C5
It is likely that these autosomal DNA test-takers will share some percentage of DNA with John:

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Thank for your help on my profiles.
posted by John Browne
Hi John,

Thanks for the information about how to confirm DNA on my tree. I have now deleted them all and am using the app mentioned to gradually add the confirmation on the child pages. So easy with the app. Wyatt-6676

posted by Sue Wyatt
Hi John!

Thanks for contributing to Puritan Great Migration profiles over the last six months. Every little bit helps, so please keep those edits coming!

Like all WikiTree projects we check in with team members twice per year and it's that time again. Please respond within the next two weeks to let me know:

  1. If you'd like to continue as a PGM project team member
  2. If you're happy with the team you're on (Research and/or Profile Improvement) or if you'd like to make a change
  3. Optionally, what you like since the reboot back in May or what you think could be improved. This could be something about Discord, or Google Groups, or managed profile spreadsheets, or challenge participation or really anything. If you like everything the way it is, you can let me know that too :)

If you'd like to tell me about a particular project or family you're working on, I'd love to hear about that as well.

Please respond to this message by posting a reply below or sending me a private message on WikiTree. I look forward to hearing from you.

Many thanks!

Brad Stauf, PGM membership coordinator

posted by Brad Stauf
Brad,

I've been pretty busy with the DNA project, so haven't been much help on the PGM project. I am happy to help if there are questions related to DNA confirmation.

John

posted by John Kingman
Cindi, Regarding the questions you asked ...

1. I am obviously new to this and did not, do not, completely understand what benefit, if any, testing DNA offers.

I suggest you take a look at the DNA overview and How to get started with DNA.

2. Is there a benefit, more information garnered if I recognize my second cousin who has tested, say a Y (male) DNA test for a surname, ie Rucker. If I recognize him and use his Y test (somehow) to compare to mine...obviously I can't do a Y test, what would I garner in information and how would I go about doing that? HIs test is at ancestry and mine was an ancestry DNA test which I have posted to wikitree.

Your 2nd cousin's Y DNA test will help him confirm his Paternal lineage, but you cannot compare your test to his unless he also has autosomal DNA test results. If he has, and you match sufficiently, Ancestry probably shows that you match and you could look into DNA confirming your ancestry back to your great grandparents.

posted by John Kingman
One more question John....Is there a benefit, more information garnered if I recognize my second cousin who has tested, say a Y (male) DNA test for a surname, ie Rucker. If I recognize him and use his Y test (somehow) to compare to mine...obviously I can't do a Y test, what would I garner in information and how would I go about doing that? HIs test is at ancestry and mine was an ancestry DNA test which I have posted to wikitree.
posted by Cindi Bonney
Thank you John, I am obviously new to this and did not, do not, completely understand what benefit, if any, testing DNA offers. I appreciate your time to instruct me to change the buttons on my profiles to confident until future time when I figure out why or when I would change those status indicators. It surely is NOT SIMPLE!

Thanks again!

posted by Cindi Bonney
Hi John,

The United Kingdom Project has not been active since 2018 and we are now completely closing it down. We are removing all UK project badges. If you still have an interest in the UK and have not already joined another project, then you will need to join the England, Ireland, Scotland or Wales Project by answering one or more of their G2G posts. If your interest is in the British Isles and British Crown Dependencies and Overseas Territories, then please contact me directly.

Regards Joan

Hi my name is Caryn Im trying to out my dna results in wiki properly can you help me out Im ost why I dont have the personalised number it will also pop up and say that my test is outdated but its not ty Caryn
posted by Caryn (Cassidy) Decker
Hi Caryn,

WikiTree doesn't save your DNA test results. Where exactly in WikiTree do you get the pop up about your test being outdated?

posted by John Kingman
In regards to the YDNA connection to my most distant Price ancestor John Price Price-11136: The YDNA test was submitted by my male Price second cousin, Mike Price FTDNA kit 62659 in 2007. He is now deceased but gave me administration of his DNA kit. However, I am not comfortable providing more information.
Darlene, I don't know what the problem is that you are referring to. Please supply more specific information.
posted by John Kingman
Thank you for your DNA message. I'll have to look at the links provided better to figure out how to do the source. I'm not sure there are any cousins that have DNA on my Cherokee line for those pages, here on wikitree. I do have confirmation connection to multiple cousins to the same ancestors on Ancestry.
posted by T.C. Justine Baker
edited by T.C. Justine Baker
Re list of Mayflower passengers. It was on the project page. I've added some other links in the page. One being right at the beginning.
posted by Anne B
John, thank you for your help with DNA confirmations. It is appreciated.
posted by Karen Allman
Hi! I posted a reply to Base Camp - here's a copy:
the project's goal is to have a project-approved (badged) trail from each Richardson-documented Gateway Ancestor (listed at Category:Gateway Ancestors. If you have someone you'd like to have included in the project, you'll need to show clear primary proof for each parent/child relationship between the pre-1700 immigrant to America and a surety baron (or a profile for someone who is documented by Richardson).

Folks who are working on trails for someone not documented by Richardson usually join the project as an Affiliate (no participation requirement to work on a Richardson-documented trail). To do so is easy. Just copy/paste this coding to your profile:

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John Kingman - This is a retired sticker (see other stickers here).
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Hi again, John. I see we are 10th cousins.

That is interesting. Thanks for taking time out to help me.

posted by MaryAnn (Ford) Thomas
Hi John, as you add England or other stickers to profiles, please be mindful of the instructions for their placement. Thanks.
posted by Jillaine Smith
Hi

I would think Ann Kingman might be a sister. I don't have any indication except for the time span. I had actually been hunting to see if Robert and Tobias Davis were the same person or had any relationship

posted by [Living Snyder]
Hi John,

We realise the time has come to dissolve the UK Project in favour of the individual country projects of England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland.

We are checking in with all UK badge holders to find out which country project(s) you would like to be in so you can collaborate with other members, have the opportunity to select which team(s) you would like to join, and so we can ensure you have all the correct badges.

Please respond by PM to let us know which country project(s) you would like to be in. Please don’t assume we know. We are effectively starting from scratch to make sure no one falls through the cracks.

Once you have done this, the Coordinator for Membership in the relevant country project(s) will be in touch to help get you situated.

Many thanks,

Susie

Tom, I think your comments should be directed to the G2G Forum for a wider audience. The guidelines are here: Help:DNA_Confirmation. (Also posted on your profile.)
posted by John Kingman
Given the privacy restrictions now enforced on GEDMATCH, wiki will never get enough DNA to meet whatever guidelines you seem. to be enforcing on others. I'm DNA confident on all of my 3GGPs and reasonably confident on many of my 5th GGP, based on the autosomal cm comparisons with others. Also I've done the Y111 and Mitochodrial. You need to get the folks at family tree dna to post their data from these.
posted by Tom Pettus

Rejected matches › Henry King