In the recent past there has been some controversy concerning the parentage of the wife of Zerubbabel Hoyt. Her age at marriage was cited as the main reason why Hannah could not have been a child of Nicholas Knapp and his wife Elinor. There were statements made to the effect that the "real" Hannah Knapp, while she may have wed, did so after the death of her father. Now science has come to the aid of genealogy to finally set the record straight.
Please read the DNA confirmation below for details.
DNA Confirmation
Hannah's Maternal relationship is confirmed by a triangulated group on GEDmatch consisting of John Schalcosky GEDmatch A781813, "SC2" GEDmatch A885642, and, and "MM" GEDmatch A969355, who share a 12.9 cM segment on chromosome 4. The most-recent common ancestors shared by all three are Nicholas Knapp and Elinor (Unknown) Knapp. John Schalcosky is a direct descendant of Hannah and Zerubbabel Hoyt.
Sources
Alfred Averill Knapp, The Ancestral lines of Mary Lenore Knapp (Peoria Ill.: unknown, 1948), pages 72, 76; digital images, Heritage Quest Online.
Robert Charles Anderson, The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, 3 volumes (Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1995), Vol. II page 1137.
Alfred Averill Knapp MD, Nicholas Knapp Genealogy (Winter Park, Florida: 1953), page 1; digital images, LDS Family Books on line.
Last will & Testament of Nichola Knapp Title: The Last Will and Testament of Nicholas Knapp Publication: Fairfield Probate Records Fairfield, Fairfield co., Connecticut Page: Vol 1665-1675, page 55-56.
Hart, Jr., Frederick C., Ancestry of William Weed of Stamford and Darien, Connecticut, Connecticut Ancestry (Connecticut Ancestry Society, Inc., Stamford, Conn., May 2008) Vol. 50, No. 4, Page 148.
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DNA Connections
It may be possible to confirm family relationships with Hannah by comparing test results with other carriers of her mitochondrial DNA.
However, there are no known mtDNA test-takers in her direct maternal line.
It is likely that these autosomal DNA test-takers will share some percentage of DNA with Hannah:
I am a Math degreed person and also worked as a Software Engineer for a complicated system. I am a bit skeptical concerning the information given per 'confirmed'.
1) What it the cM score with the other matches doing the triangulation? About 7 cM is the expected score for an 8th cousin. Now sometimes STATISTICALLY, an 8th cousin can score better than that. Most DNA testing has this being in the noise. If the person scores 20 cM, then closer possibly cousin and not an 10th cousin.
2) Has all branches of all the parties participating been explored completely and verified? Personally I have many branches ending in 1800. I cannot tell that an unexplored branch is the reason for a DNA match.
My Ezra Knapp in the 1953 Nicholas Knapp book is listed as the son of Ebenezer Knapp even though Ezra was born in 1709 and Ebenezer was born in 1706. Many people have per Y-DNA test have found that they are descended from Roger or Aaron Knapp contrary to the Nicholas Knapp book's listed lineage.
And many of my matches with descendants of Nicholas Knapp also have multiple genetic pathways with other ancestors. William Chase, John Doggett, John Tripp, John Marchant, William Bradford, .... In match trees I have noticed a Knapp marrying a Hoyt and a Knapp marrying a Lockwood.
In the triangulation, you need to VERIFY that the interested chromosome is really due to the Knapp lineage. Maybe some of the people participating in the triangulation need to verify that they are really descended from Nicholas Knapp - y-DNA test.
There seems to be a lot of 'obviously' and 'clearly'
1) What it the cM score with the other matches doing the triangulation? About 7 cM is the expected score for an 8th cousin. Now sometimes STATISTICALLY, an 8th cousin can score better than that. Most DNA testing has this being in the noise. If the person scores 20 cM, then closer possibly cousin and not an 10th cousin.
2) Has all branches of all the parties participating been explored completely and verified? Personally I have many branches ending in 1800. I cannot tell that an unexplored branch is the reason for a DNA match.
My Ezra Knapp in the 1953 Nicholas Knapp book is listed as the son of Ebenezer Knapp even though Ezra was born in 1709 and Ebenezer was born in 1706. Many people have per Y-DNA test have found that they are descended from Roger or Aaron Knapp contrary to the Nicholas Knapp book's listed lineage.
And many of my matches with descendants of Nicholas Knapp also have multiple genetic pathways with other ancestors. William Chase, John Doggett, John Tripp, John Marchant, William Bradford, .... In match trees I have noticed a Knapp marrying a Hoyt and a Knapp marrying a Lockwood.
In the triangulation, you need to VERIFY that the interested chromosome is really due to the Knapp lineage. Maybe some of the people participating in the triangulation need to verify that they are really descended from Nicholas Knapp - y-DNA test.
There seems to be a lot of 'obviously' and 'clearly'
(That means that one triangulation can never be used to confirm both a paternal and a maternal relationship.)
I’ve changed the ‘confirmed with DNA’ entries on this profile to ‘confident’ for you. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks!