Mathilde (Konradiner) von Schwaben (abt. 988 - abt. 1032)

Born about 0988 in Heiliges Römisches Reich

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Died about 20 Jul 1032 at about age 44 in Worms, Heiliges Römisches Reich [uncertain]

Biography

Mathilde (Konradiner) von Schwaben has German Roots.

Mathilde von Schwaben, daughter of Hermann II, Duke of Swabia, and his wife Gerberga of Burgundy, married,

1. (ca. 1002) Konrad, son of Otto duke of Carinthia,
2. (ca. 1016) Frederic of Upper Lotharingia, son of Thierry I and Richilde
3. Esiko, Graf in Schwabengau, son of Adalbert von Ballenstedt. This third marriage is uncertain^[1].

She died on 20 July 1031 or 1032 and was buried at Worms^[2].

Her first two marriages were contested due to consanguinity issues. ^[3]

About 1001/02 Matilda married Conrad of Carinthia, son of Duke Otto I, a member of the Salian dynasty. Conrad supported her father's bid for the German throne in 1002. f^[4]

Conrad outlived his elder brothers, In 1002, his father Otto of Worms was candidate in the royal German election but renounced in favor of the Ottonian Duke Henry IV of Bavaria, the son of late Duke Henry the Wrangler. In that year or thereabouts, Conrad married Matilda, daughter of Henry's rival, the Conradine duke Herman II of Swabia.^[5]

Mathilde had the following children by her first marriage:

1. Konrad II, duke of Carinthia
2. Bruno, bishop of Würzburg
3. (uncertain) a daughter, married Hezzelin Graf im Zülpichgau^[6].

About 1012/13, Matilda had married her second husband, Count Frederick of Bar, son of Duke Theodoric I of Upper Lorraine. Frederick succeeded his father in 1019; he is usually said to have died c. 1026, although it is possible that he lived until 1033.^[7]

Mathilde had the following children by her second marriage:

1. Frederic III Duke of Upper Lotharingia
2. Sophie, married Louis de Mousson
3. Beatrix, married Boniface of Tuscany, and secondly Godefroi "le Barbu" de Verdun
4. (uncertain) Petronilla^[8].

She was not the mother of Doda. Rassinot-1 10:39, 6 November 2019 (UTC)

Research Notes

Several sources have her listed as being born 988 or 989 they also have her giving birth in 990 a physical impossibility , getting married in 1002 and having another child in 1005. So let's do some fast math. Married 1002 - 988 she is 14. Ok very young but I have seen royals marry young. Birth in 1005 she is 17 and that is doable. But the one for 990 which is the one most often documented just makes no sense. So either she was born earlier than 988 or Konrad II was born later after 1002 maybe 1004? Working on finding additional sources to work this timing issue out.

Evidently, the link on the English version of Wikipedia that takes you to the article that is supposed to be her son, is actually taking you to a different Conrad. John Atkinson and I traded emails and he provided the following:

The problem is there is confusion over two men named Conrad in the next generation. Conrad II who became Holy Roman Emperor, was born circa 990 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conrad_II,_Holy_Roman_Emperor but he was the son of Heinrich. Conrad II Duke of Carinthia, the son of Conrad I and Mathilde, who was first cousin to Conrad II HRE, was born circa 1003. See the German Wikipedia article https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konrad_II._(K%C3%A4rnten)

They seem to be often confused because they both died in 1039, even the English Wikipedia article gets the dates confused, perhaps because the source it is using is for the Emperor. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conrad_II,_Duke_of_Carinthia

This source gives Conrad II, Duke of Carinthia, a birth date of about 1007 https://www.deutsche-biographie.de/gnd137058624.html#ndbcontent which might fit better with Mathilde’s year of birth.

Because the marriage is purported to have taken place in 1002 and Konrad is the listed heir, and the second son is listed as born in 1005, I am going to go with his birth as being in 1003. Hopefully this clears this up. She would have been about 15 at the time which is possible.

Sources

1. ↑ Stolberg-Wernigerode, Otto zu: Neue deutsche Biographie, Bd.: 16, Maly - Melanchthon, Berlin, 1990
2. ↑ Charles Cawley, Fondation for Medieval Genealogy, Swabia Chap. 3 Dukes of Swabia (Konradiner) http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SWABIA.htm#Mathildedied1031 accessed Nov 2019
3. ↑ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matilda_of_Swabia
4. ↑ E. Boshoff, Die Salier (Stuttgart, 2008) p23
5. ↑ Stefan Weinfurter, The Salian Century: Main Currents in an Age of Transition, 46.
6. ↑ FMG/Cawley, Franconia, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/FRANCONIA.htm#KonradKartenCarinthiadied1011
7. ↑ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matilda_of_Swabia
8. ↑ FMG/Cawley, Lotharingia, http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIA.htm#FredericIIdied1026

This person was created through the import of Acrossthepond.ged on 21 February 2011.

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