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Barbara Elisabetha (Kuhn) Loescher (abt. 1694 - abt. 1765)

Barbara Elisabetha (Elizabeth) Loescher formerly Kuhn
Born about in Ronneburg, Darmstadt, Hesse, Germanymap
Ancestors ancestors
Daughter of and
Sister of , , , , [half] and [half]
Wife of — married 1725 in Elizaville, Columbia, New Yorkmap
Descendants descendants
Mother of , , , , , , , , , , , and
Died about at about age 71 in Kinderhook, Columbia, New Yorkmap
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Biography

Identified by Jones as daughter of Samuel and Magdalena Berthen bpt. Sept. 18 1700 with the name Elisabetha, sister of Anna Barbara, citing to Langenselbold chbk. (p. 497). Burgert seconds Jones on Elisabetha and the immigrant siblings (p. 134).

Jones states marriage to Sebastian Löscher evidenced by children’s sponsors (p.497). Elisabetha’s brothers sponsored Samuel, Valentin, Johann Marcus and Johann Hermann.

Sources

  • Jones, Henry, Palatine Families of New York (1985)
  • Burgert, Annette, Eighteenth Century Immigrants from Langenselbold... (1997).
  • Coons, William S. Koon and Coons families of eastern New York. Rutland, Vermont: Tuttle Publishing Co. 1937.

Acknowledgements

  • WikiTree profile Kuhn-240 created through the import of Steele Family Tree.ged on Jun 7, 2011 by Jeff Steele. S




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Winters-1753 David Winters P.E.
Kuhn-240 and Kuhn-3568 appear to represent the same person because: Previous comments on each profile have indicated that these profiles are the same person.
posted on Kuhn-3568 (merged) by David Winters P.E.
John Balow
Henry Jones has Magdalena Berthen as Elisabetha’s mother. See Kuhn-3568. Can we change that to make a merge?

John

posted by John Balow
Winters-1753 David Winters P.E.
John, I see where you are going with this and I tend to agree with you but I am confused by my secondary sources that Have Elisabeth Kuhn Loescher and Barbara Elizabeth Loescher as half sisters. My sources told me that there was a Samuel Kuhn Jr. and a Samuel Kuhn Senior who was dead by the census of 1715. I see that your pedigree of the kuhn family has only one Samuel Kuhn so we need to resolve that before we decide that Elizabeth and Barbara Elizabeth Kuhn are the same person. If you feel confident with your version I am willing to agree with the merge. I was hoping someone would come along that would be able to clear this up. Thanks
posted by David Winters P.E.
John Balow
Hi David, thanks for your response.

If the Coons book (1937) is your source how far does the statement that its statements are ‘mainly theoretical’ (as Dave Rutherford has quoted) apply? That same year Knittle (1937) found Samuel in the Simmendinger “census” of 1716/17. Also, when combined with Jones’ exposition of the other, even more obscure lists, the picture seems pretty clear that there was only one Samuel at the relevant time. People were pretty willing to use ‘jr’ and ‘sr’ even when the people weren’t directly related. I am waiting to look at that Burgert book on Langenselbold to see if I can establish Hans. But in the end Jones cites to the baptism register and Coons seems to be ‘mainly theoretical’.

John

posted by John Balow
Winters-1753 David Winters P.E.
I am working on that. Right now I have proposed a merge of the two remaining Samuel Kuhns husband to Magdalena Berthen. I now agree that Elisabeth (Kuhn) Loescher was the child of Samuel and Magdalena and not Samuel and Elizabeth Rosenweigen. Will make that change after the Samuels merge.
posted by David Winters P.E.

Rejected matches › Anna Elisabetha (Kilmer) Kuhn (1698-)

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