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Greenberry Lee (abt. 1750 - 1784)

Greenberry Lee
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Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
Husband of — married 1774 in Province of Georgiamap
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 34 in Savannah, Richmond, Georgia, United Statesmap
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Biography

1750 Birth

Greenberry Lee was born about 1750.[1] He is likely the son of John Lee Sr and Margaret Howard.[2][3] The place of his birth is uncertain, but was presumably Harford County, Maryland, where his parents were married on 23 November 1746.

The circumstantial case that John Lee is his father is primarily based on the sale of 500 acres of land, soon after Greenberry's death, by John Lee to Greenberry's wife Elizabeth Lee for the nominal price of £5.0.0.[4] Actually, it was John Lee Sen'r who sold the land to Greenberry's wife.

Land in Georgia

Three Lees on Bryer Creek, Richmond County, Georgia:

  • On 15 October 1773, Greenbury Lee—SC, himself only. 100 acres at head of branch of Bryer creek called Beaver Dam, half a mile above the Upper Trading Path, at a tree marked I. I. [in Richmond County, Georgia].[5]
  • On 15 October 1773, John Lee—SC, a wife, 2 sons and 4 daus. from 12 to 1 year old. 200 acres on Bryer creek at a branch called Rockey Ford [in Richmond County, Georgia].[5]
  • On 9 November 1773. Francis Lee—NC, wife, 1 son and 4 daus. and an orphan boy from 8 years to 9 months old. 100 acres on Bryer creek [in Richmond County, Georgia]. Resigned 6 December 1773.[6] He returned to his home on Beaver Dam, a branch of Rockey Creek, South Carolina.

He received 287-1/2 acres in Washington County, Georgia.[7]

In Council, Savannah, Georgia, 13 February 1784, the Governor signed a land grant to Greenberry Lee for 400 acres in Wilkes County, Georgia,[8] bounding south eastwardly by Ignatius Few's land and on all other sides by vacant land.[9] The land was located on Little River.[10]

On 15 Mar 1784 in Georgia Greenbury Lee received 250 acres Revolutionary War Bounty Land Grant. [11]

1774 Marriage to Elizabeth Few

Colonel Greenberry Lee and Elizabeth Few were married.[12][13][14][15][16]

Before moving to Wrightsboro, Georgia, Elizabeth Few lived in Alamance, North Carolina.[16]

Elizabeth Few had four distinguished brothers, one of whom, Colonel Wm. Few, Jr., was the first U.S. Senator from Georgia, a Signer of the Constitution from Georgia, and at one time Mayor of New York City.[16]

Children

Listed in Old Bible

Unto Col. Greenberry Lee and Elizabeth (Few) Lee were born 2 sons and 1 daughter:[12]

  1. John Lee the eldest child born July 24, 1775 in Richmond County, Georgia. RW application.
  2. Dr. William Lee (he was also a General in the U. S. Army) 2nd born 1777, died 1815 at Montecello, Jasper County, Georgia; married Maria Lucas, (cousin to his brother John Lee's wife); no issue.
  3. Mary Lee, the only daughter, married Hugh Blair, January 14, 1805 in Warren County, Georgia. Their daughter, Ann Blair, married Rev. T. H. Dawson.

The brothers, John Lee and William Lee were said to have been the best drilled Military men in Georgia in their day.[17]

American Revolution

Greenberry Lee was a colonel in South Carolina Militia 1782-1783.[18][15]

He was a Revolutionary soldier, Colonel of 2nd Battalion, Richmond County, Georgia.[citation needed]

Greenberry Lee was a Revolutionary soldier of Georgia and served as Colonel of the Richmond County Militia. Many certificates of Rev. soldiers applying for bounty lands in Georgia were signed by Col. Greenberry (sometimes spelled Greenbury) Lee in 1784 at "New Savannah".[19][20]

1782 Public Office

Greenberry Lee was Justice for Richmond County, Georgia:

  • 12 January 1782[21]
  • 4 February 1784[21]

Greenberry Lee was a member of the House of Representatives of Georgia, representing Richmond County:

  • 7 January 1783[21]
  • 26 February 1784[21]; Benjamin Few and William Few were members in the same session.

He was Road Commissioner July 29, 1783.[citation needed]

1784 Death

Colonel Greenberry Lee died in 1784 in Georgia.[22][23]

1784 Nov 1 - Indenture between John Lee Sen'r in Richmond County, Georgia, and Elizabeth Lee of Richmond County, Georgia, for £5.0.0 current money of Georgia, two certain tracts containing 500 acres, in Richmond County, Georgia, which said Land and premises was granted to the said John Lee 1 October 1771. Signed: John Lee Sen'r (his mark). Witnesses: Fitz M Hunt, Mary Few. I. Few J.P. Recorded 24 February 1791, Richmond County, Georgia.[4]

Note that I. Few J.P. is Ignatius Few, Elizabeth (Few) Lee's brother, and Mary Few is possibly Ignatius Few's wife Mary Few. Alternatively, Mary Few is possibly Mary Few, Elizabeth and Ignatius' mother. However that Mary Few is listed d. 1778, Hillsborough, Orange, N.C. Spratlin-29 17:20, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

1785 Jun 10 - Indenture between Ignatius Few of Richmond County, Georgia, and James Gray of Wilkes County, Georgia, 100 acres, of the Ceded Lands. Witnesses: John Roussau, Eleazer Camens:

"Whereas Greenberry Lee obtained 100 acres of the Ceded Lands bounded on all sides vacant, granted by Sir James Wright, Bart. 21 Mar 1775. The said Greenberry Lee on his death appointed said Ignatius Few to act in settling his affairs as Execr."[24]

The heirs of Col. Greenberry Lee received 1150 acres, a Colonel's Bounty warrant in Franklin County, Georgia on May 7, 1787. Witness: John Smithfield. Larkin Cleveland C.F.C.[25]

On 26 April 1803, in the Superior Court of Warren County, Georgia, John Lee, William Lee, and Mary Lee, children of Elizabeth Bush and heirs of Greenberry Lee, deceased, all being of lawful age and serious of takeing of into our own Estate do hereby acknowledge that we have received of land and negroes the full amount of our patrimony together with five negroes … our portion of our Grand Fathers legacy to his Daughter Elizabeth our Mother.[12]

Research Notes

Vital Statistics

Name
Greenberry is named Thomas Greenberry Lee Jr. in some family genealogies.[26]

Birth
His birth date is estimated based on his 15 October 1773 land grant, (15 Oct 1773 - above 21 years old) = before 15 October 1752.

Secondary sources purport he was born in 1750 without providing primary sources or rationale for an estimated birth date.[2][27][16]

Secondary sources and family trees purport he was born in several places without providing primary sources or rationale:

  • Harford County, Maryland[2]
  • Virginia[20]
  • Fish Pond Creek, Buckingham, Virginia.[28]
  • South Carolina[15][18]

Greenberry Lee's Parents

Family genealogies have proposed, with varying levels of veracity, that his parents are either:

Theory 1: John Lee As Father

Family Genealogies:

  • Emma Lee Bettis[2]
  • [unknown][27]
  • Managers of "Thomas Lee, of Ditchley (1739–1816)," Geni.com[29]

DAR descendant Mrs Ema Lee Bettis once stated that Greenberry Lee was born in Harford County, Maryland (marriage place of John Lee and Margaret Howard).[2]

John Lee, Sr. deeds to Elizabeth Lee, widow of Greenberry Lee, 500 acres for £5 on 1 November 1784; this land had been granted to John Lee, Sr. on 1 October 1771.[4] This land is on Upper Richland Creek in Richmond County, Georgia.[30][2]

In family papers of the late Milo Howard, head of the Alabama Department of Archives and History, he says he was a descendant of Col. Greenberry Lee's Aunt Hannah Howard: From William Lee's profile (Greenberry's son). The Howard family members belong to John Lee.

Theory 2: Thomas Lee As Father

Family Genealogies:

Unsourced parents Thomas Lee (1729-1816) & Mary (Griffin) Lee (1732-abt.1758) were previously attached.

It is difficult to make even a circumstantial case for this relationship:

  • Thomas Lee is first named in a 7 January 1755 land record in Johnston County, North Carolina.
  • Thomas appears to remain there through at least 1780.
  • Thomas is named in several land records between 1787 and 1813 in Greene County, North Carolina, which became Hawkins County, Tennessee.
  • Thomas made his nuncupative Will in Hawkins County, Tennessee, on 29 June 1816, and died there a few days later.

Meanwhile, Greenberry Lee of South Carolina obtains land on 15 October 1773 in Richmond County, Georgia. John Lee, also of South Carolina, obtains land on the same date on the same creek in Richmond County. John is presumably a brother of Greenberry.

Thomas Lee's profile has a son named John attached who was born 1776 in what became Tennessee, and died in 1842 in Tennessee.

Spratlin-29 22:35, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

Thomas Lee of Ditchley and his wife Mary Griffin[31][20] are often given as his parents but there is absolutely no solid source linking Greenberry Lee as their son. Furthermore, no primary sources have been found so far regarding the existence of Thomas Lee of Ditchley or Mary Griffin.

Greenberry Lee and the Revolution

By Mimms W. Lee:[16]

I knew that Greenberry Lee was a Colonel of Richmond County (Georgia) Militia during the Revolution, was a member of the Georgia Legislature, a Justice, a Road Commissioner, and died before he was thirty-six years of age. He was born in 1750, and married Elizabeth Few (Deed book "B" p. 458, Warren Co., GA.) who before moving to Wrightsboro, Georgia, lived in Alamance, NC. Her family was prominent. She had four distinguished brothers, one of whom, Colonel Wm. Few, Jr., was the first U. S. Senator from Georgia, a Signer of the Constitution from Georgia, and at one time Mayor of New York City. I have the old gun used by Colonel Greenberry Lee in the American Revolution, and have heard my father say that as a boy, Greenberry (not Granbery) Lee lived near Danville, Virginia; and that while not of the Robert E. Lee line, he did belong to a branch of the Virginia Lee family.

The Chestnut Bible

In the Genealogy room of the Library in Rogersville, Hawkins County, Tennessee, there is a note that, according to the DAR, a bible belonging to Capt. Thomas Lee said that he was born on 12/3/1729 at Ditchley, Northumberland, the "next to youngest" child of Richard Lee and Judith Steptoe. This Bible entry is apparently a 20th-century forgery, from correspondence described at that library.


See "Thomas Lee, of Ditchley (1739–1816)," Geni.com (profile) for a more complete discussion of what is referred to there as "the adulterated bible":

[5] Despite Will Franke's well known competence in genealogical work, he was a poor choice for Mimms Lee as HIS "authority" for the 1938 article, as by or before 1950, Mr. Will Franke had denounced part of the bible entries, known to some of us as "The Chestnut Bible" (from it's last owner family), which has a statement of Thomas Lee (of Hawkins Co., TN) birth at Ditchley. Without any doubt whatever, Mr. Franke eventually realized that Capt. Thomas Lee was NOT a descendant of the Ditchley Lee group, as he reported the adulterated bible to Cazenove Gardner Lee, who agreed. It may well be that the old Mimms Lee article of 1938 came into the hands of the Chestnut Bible owner and inspired the added-on note about Thomas Lee's parentage, at the outset. That's why I call this mess "a self-fulfilling prophesy." ONE WRONG IDENTIFICATION INSPIRES ANOTHER, AND THE LATTER IS USED TO CONFIRM THE FORMER. By the way, Mimms Lee never tells us what Will Franke actually SAID in or prior to 1938, nor does he either tell us what Mrs. Godby actually SAID. It's all inferences, and 2nd hand information at best.

See also references to the Griffin Bible and the Needham Lee, Jr. Bible.

This issue would greatly benefit from obtaining original images of the bible(s) and correspondence or records referred to in the discussion. For example, what does the phrase "adulterated" mean? Does it mean someone merely wrote on the page, or that someone attempted to modify the bible in a manner intended to mislead readers? Spratlin-29 21:10, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

Sources

  1. See Vital Statistics.
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 2.5 Emma Lee Bettis (compiler), Lee Familly Of Shropshire, England, 1100 A.D. to 1961 in America, called the Lee Family of Virginia (Montgomery, Alabama: unknown, 1961 [?]) p15, pp17-22, ; digital images, FamilySearch (title page).
  3. What are the primary sources proving his parents?
  4. 4.0 4.1 4.2 County Court, Richmond County, Georgia, Richmond County Deed Book A-2, 1787–1791; database with images, Georgia Archives (image 174, image 175).
  5. 5.0 5.1 Grace Gillam Davidson, Early Records of Georgia Vol. 1 (Macon, Georgia; Baltimore, Maryland: Genealogical Publishing Company: 1932, 1997, 2011), p11.
  6. Grace Gillam Davidson, Early Records of Georgia Vol. 1 (Macon, Georgia; Baltimore, Maryland: Genealogical Publishing Company: 1932, 1997, 2011), p14.
  7. Vol. 3 - Revolutionary Records of Georgia, by Candler: P-191.
  8. Allen D. Candler The Revolutionary Records of the State of Georgia Vol. 2 (Atlanta, Georgia: The Franklin-Turner Company, 1908), p591, p846; digital images, FamilySearch (title page).
  9. Governor, Georgia, Georgia, headright and bounty land records, Register of grants, vol DDD, 1783-1784; database with images, FamilySearch (image 146).
  10. Lee Greenberry, 400 acres, Wilkes County, 1783, Georgia Colonial and Headright Plat Index, 1735-1866; database, Georgia Archives (https://vault.georgiaarchives.org/digital/collection/platindex/id/20632/rec/2).
  11. Lloyd DeWitt Bockstruck, Revolutionary War Bounty Land Grants Awarded by State Governments, Genealogical Publishing C0., Inc. Baltimore, Md, 1998 p. 308
  12. 12.0 12.1 12.2 Superior Court, Warren County, Georgia, Deeds and mortgages, 1796-1900, Deeds and mortgages, v. A-B 1796-1808; database with images, FamilySearch (image 612).
  13. Deed book "F", p. 21-22 February 25, 1787, Richmond County, Georgia.
  14. Mrs. Howard H. McCall (compiler), Roster of Revolutionary Soldiers in Georgia Vol. 1 (Baltimore, Maryland: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1968, 1996, 2004), pp76-77; digital images, Ancestry.com (image 69).
  15. 15.0 15.1 15.2 "Greenberry Lee," Alabama, U.S., Surname Files Expanded, 1702–1981 for Greenberry Lee; database with images, Ancestry.com (image 158).
  16. 16.0 16.1 16.2 16.3 16.4 16.5 Mimms W. Lee, "Genealogical Notes and Contributions: Lee," The William and Mary Quarterly Vol. 18, No. 4 (Oct., 1938), pp513-514; digital images, JSTOR (pp513-514); digital images, Ancestry.com (images 369-370).
  17. Ref. Old Bible. [which old bible?]
  18. 18.0 18.1 Flora Myers Gillentine (Historian General), Lineage Book - National Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution Vol. 111-112 (1914) (Washington, D.C.: Judd & Detweiler, Inc., 1929) pp213-214; digital images, Hathitrust.org (pp213-214).
  19. Knight's Roster of Revolutionary Soldiers of Georgia
  20. 20.0 20.1 20.2 Mrs. Howard H. McCall (compiler), Roster of Revolutionary Soldiers in Georgia and Other States Vol. 2 (Baltimore, Maryland: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1968, 1996, 2004), pp76-77; digital images, Ancestry.com (image 88).
  21. 21.0 21.1 21.2 21.3 Allen D. Candler The Revolutionary Records of the State of Georgia Vol. 3 (Atlanta, Georgia: The Franklin-Turner Company, 1908), p76, p191, p254, p572, p610; digital images, FamilySearch (title page).
  22. "Greenberry Lee," Alabama, U.S., Surname Files Expanded, 1702–1981 for Greenberry Lee; database with images, Ancestry.com (image 311).
  23. Frank Moseley, "Heros of the Cross," Alabama, U.S., Surname Files Expanded, 1702–1981 for Greenberry Lee; database with images, Ancestry.com (image 40).
  24. Grace Gillam Davidson, Early Records of Georgia Vol. 1 (Macon, Georgia; Baltimore, Maryland: Genealogical Publishing Company: 1932, 1997, 2011), p235.
  25. Vol. 3, Wilkes County, Georgia Records: P 235.
  26. "Genealogy Report: Ancestors of Charles Calhoun Lee," Genealogy.com (https://www.genealogy.com/ftm/h/a/y/Audrey-S-Hayden/GENE2-0006.html).
  27. 27.0 27.1 "Lees of Virginia," Alabama, U.S., Surname Files Expanded, 1702–1981 for John Lee; database with images, Ancestry.com (images 78-79).
  28. FamilySearch Person: GJSD-7YK for Col. Thomas Greenberry Lee (unk–unk). [1 DAR source]
  29. "Thomas Lee, of Ditchley (1739–1816)," Geni.com (profile).
  30. Richmond County, Georgia, Deed Book A.2:page 321
  31. Griffin Bible Transcripts: From:Hugh Husma. Subject: [LEE-L] GRIFFIN Bible, Transcript of Entries. Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 17:10:18 EDT. Bible owned by Samuel Griffin, the 6th, of Heathville, Virginia. Quote: Thomas Lee and Mary Griffin married April 9, 1747. Mary Griffin, born March 30, 1732. Mary Lee, wife of Thomas Lee, of Ditchley, our beloved daughter died Dec 8, 1758. End quote. This transcript made by me (Hugh Husma) from 1938 transcript sent to Mr. Mimms W. Lee, Esq. from DAR. The DAR record was from Reverend George W. Beale, D. D. who made the original transcription and sent it to the DAR in 1911/1912. The entries were reviewed by Casanova G. Lee of Washington, D. C. and held as authentic by him. Hugh Husma (HH)

See also - review for reliable sources:

6 sources from Familysearch Profile; see also 6 memories

  • https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:CYVW-9GW2
  • https://freepages.rootsweb.com/~rgibson/genealogy/Lee/Documents/Emma_Lee_Bettis_Manuscript.html [reviewed]
  • "Vol. 2 - Revolutionary Records of Georgia, by Candler. P-591. Col. Greenberry Lee 5 received a land grant of 400 acres in Wilkes County, Georgia on February 13, 1784."
  • "Vol. 3, Wilkes County, Georgia Records: P-11. On October 15, 1773 Greenberry Lee 5, a single man from South Carolina was granted 100 acres at the head of a branch or Bryer Creek, called Beaver Dam, half mile above Upper Trading Path at a tree marked J. L. in Richmond County, Georgia."
  • "Historical Collections, Georgia Chapters D.A.R. Vol.2. p.229 (p.321). John Lee, Sr. 4 deeds to Elizabeth Lee, widow of Greenberry Lee 5, 500 acres for $5 on November 1, 1784; this land had been granted to John Lee, Sr. 4 on October 1, 1771.
  • "Georgia Roster of the Revolution, by Knight: P-420 Greenberry Lee, Colonel."

See also - other family trees:

  • FamilySearch Person: G6QQ-BR8 for Col. Greenberry Lee (1751–1784). [6 sources, 6 memories]
  • FamilySearch Person: GJSD-7YK for Col. Thomas Greenberry Lee (unk–unk). [1 DAR source]
  • "Thomas Lee, of Ditchley (1739–1816)," Geni.com (profile).
  • Flora Myers Gillentine (Historian General), Lineage Book - National Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution Vol. 111-112 (1914) (Washington, D.C.: Judd & Detweiler, Inc., 1929) pp213-214; digital images, Hathitrust.org (pp213-214).
  • Flora Myers Gillentine (Historian General), Lineage Book - National Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution Vol. 111-112 (1914) (Washington, D.C.: Judd & Detweiler, Inc., 1929) p266; digital images, Hathitrust.org (p266).
  • "Genealogy Report: Ancestors of Charles Calhoun Lee," Genealogy.com (https://www.genealogy.com/ftm/h/a/y/Audrey-S-Hayden/GENE2-0006.html).




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Regarding: On 8 November 1773, Francis Lee—NC, wife, 1 son and 4 daus. from 18 years to 6 months. 100 acres on Bryer creek [in Richmond County, Georgia]. Resigned 6 December 1773.[6] He returned to his home on Beaver Dam, a branch of Rockey Creek, South Carolina. This was in North Carolina at the time.

What was in North Carolina at the time?

posted by Ken Spratlin
The Emma Lee Bettis Manuscript internet site has this statement. No idea what she meant. https://freepages.rootsweb.com/~rgibson/genealogy/Lee/Documents/Emma_Lee_Bettis_Manuscript.html
posted by Karen Brubaker
edited by Karen Brubaker
Greenberry Lee-9072 is most likely John Lee-4577's son . John Lee has a grandson named Maj Green Berry Marshall-29870, a grandson named Greenberry Gordon-20902 and a great grandson named Greenberry McKeown-1408
posted by Karen Brubaker
edited by Karen Brubaker
Karen Brubaker proposed two weeks ago and again yesterday that Thomas Lee should be detached as the father. There have been no comments making the case this should not be done.

I have been reviewing the profiles of Greenberry and purported fathers Thomas Lee (1729-1816) and John Lee (abt.1725-1786) for the past two weeks, and have also looked for additional reliable sources for these profiles and their immediate families.

Thomas is not reliably sourced as the father. Based on the places Thomas lived, it is hard to make a circumstantial case he is the father.

John is purported to be the father of Greenberry, but reliable, primary sources proving statements by Bettis and Howard have not been found. A strong circumstantial case can be made that John is the father based on the 1 Nov 1784 indenture from John Lee to Greenberry's wife Elizabeth. The land was sold to her soon after Greenberry's death, and was sold to her for the nominal amount of 1 pound per 100 acres.

Thomas and wife Mary Griffin have therefore been detached as parents of Greenberry, and changes have been made to these profiles' Biographies and Research Notes reflecting this change.

posted by Ken Spratlin
Greenberry Lee should be detached from Thomas Lee.

Three descendants of Greenberry Lee (1799 - 1869) [edit: not] son of Greenberry's son William belong to the Hugh Lee family group according to their DNA results: Hugh Lee Ancestor DNA Project. Correction: apparently William had no children.

And Greenberry Lee (1750-1784) would not be a son of Thomas Lee, (the son of John Lee, Esq.) who are of a different DNA family group: John Lee, Esq Ancestor DNA Project.

posted by Karen Brubaker
edited by Karen Brubaker
Are the lines proved and documented somewhere?
posted by Ken Spratlin
Regarding the lines for the three descendants of Greenberry Lee (1799 - 1869) . Problem: William Lee-15551 apparently had no issue so can't connect as of yet. Edit: I found one who supplied DNA to the Lee Surname DNA project : Charles Lavon Lee: his site: https://freepages.rootsweb.com/~rgibson/genealogy/index.html which includes: https://freepages.rootsweb.com/~rgibson/genealogy/Lee/Reports/WebbLeeTreeOutlineFile.html
posted by Karen Brubaker
edited by Karen Brubaker
Greenberry Lee should be detached from Thomas Lee (Lee-7459) because he is the son of John Lee https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Lee-4577

Col. Greenberry Lee, died in 1784, and so Greenberry was not mentioned in John Lee's will. In 1784 John Lee, Sr. deeds 500 acres of land for $5 on November 1, 1784 to Elizabeth (Few) Lee, widow of Greenberry Lee. Witness Fritz M. Hunt, Mary Few. Ignatius Few J.P. Note that Ignatius Few is Elizabeth (Few) Lee's brother and Mary Few is her relative. This land in Richmond County, Georgia had been granted to John Lee, Sr. on October 1, 1771.

posted by Karen Brubaker
edited by Karen Brubaker
Why is Thomas Solomon Lee connected as a son of Greenberry and not mentioned in the text?
posted by Ken Bashford
Once it gets a result — even if it’s wrong — the ‘Relationship to Me’ algorithm won’t look for anything else.

Garbage in, garbage out.

posted by Ken Bashford
See my comment on the profile of Thomas Solomon Lee-10711. My comment seems to have fallen on deaf ears. Thomas Soloman Lee-10711 is probably not the son of Greenberry Lee but he has a Greenberry Lee in his descendant line. He may be related. Yes, it's a good idea to give the issue more attention. Thank you Ken Bashford.
posted by Karen Brubaker
edited by Karen Brubaker
Yep. I’m the one who thanked you for it. Just trying to give the issue more attention. Thanks again.
posted by Ken Bashford
Thomas Solomon Lee's own profile shows him born in Sampson County, North Carolina in 1780, but Greenberry Lee's family was in Georgia at the time. Plus middle names were rare in the time period. I'd join in the recommendation for disconnection.
posted by Jack Day
Thomas Soloman Lee-10711 is probably not the son of Greenberry Lee but he has a Greenberry Lee in his descendant line. His profile needs further research including what his name and his father's name really are.
posted by Karen Brubaker
edited by Karen Brubaker
Should the Find A Grave memorial ( https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/12216842/nicholas-greenberry ) be removed from this profile? Reasons I ask: 1. LNAB on memorial is Greenberry not Lee, 2. Date and place of birth are off by a century and different countries...
posted by Loretta (Leger) Corbin
edited by Loretta (Leger) Corbin
The issue appears to be speculation under Research Notes that somehow the name Greenberry Lee has some connection to Nicholas Greenberry of Maryland. Certainly one could believe that Lee's parents, giving him the name Greenberry, wished to honor someone named Greenberry, but to pick a particular individual (Nicholas Greenberry) from a distant state (Maryland) would appear to be far-fetched, if there's no other reason to tie them together.

It would seem to me that even in research notes, speculation should make some sense, which this speculation does not. Given that, I'd suggest that the speculation itself be removed, and along with it all three footnotes which are about Nicholas Greenberry of Maryland, not about Greenberry Lee.

posted by Jack Day
Maryland is not so distant. Greenberry's wife, Elizabeth Few, and Greenberry's mother, Margaret Howard, were from Maryland. At least that's what their profiles say.
posted by Karen Brubaker
edited by Karen Brubaker
Pure speculation: Colonel Nicholas Greenberry Esq. was the father of Katherine "Catherine" Howard formerly Greenberry aka Ridgely who was the wife of Captain John Howard II Howard-1616, all of Maryland.
posted by Karen Brubaker
edited by Karen Brubaker
From source #2, Griffin bible transcription quote: “ … Thomas Lee, of Ditchley … “

Interesting.

posted by Ken Bashford
edited by Ken Bashford
Reminder: Please review US Southern Colonies Project Editing Guidance before editing.
posted by Ken Spratlin
Should we assume Greenberry Lee-9072 has been saved from disconnection?
posted by Ken Bashford
This profile appears to be conflating at least two different people. There is no record I have seen which suggests that the Thomas Lee, Senior, of Johnston County, North Carolina, (Lee-7459) ever lived in Prince Edward County or Northumberland County, Virginia, or that he had a son with the name of Greenberry. If anyone is aware of a reliable source which supports either claim, please reply citing the source so we can review it. If no one is aware of a reliable source for these claims, then this profile will be detached as a son of Lee-7459.
posted by Scott McClain
The profile has now changed as of 29 June 2023. This person did exist. In the research note is a link to Col. Nicholas Greenberry to whom there seems to be a connection. If Greenberry Lee is not the son of Thomas Lee-7459 (1729 - 1816), (son of John Lee Esq), he can be detached.
posted by Karen Brubaker
edited by Karen Brubaker
Thank you for all of your work on the profile Karen. I have cleaned up that source citation to the Roster of Revolutionary Soldiers and tweaked the first paragraph a bit to make it clearer. But it does seem like the bible record and the Roster are good sources for the connection to the claimed parents. If anyone disagrees, please weigh in.
posted by Scott McClain
US Southern Colonies Project adding project management (PMP) and project protection (PPP)—disputed relationships.

Please continue to manage normally, and review US Southern Colonies Project Editing Guidance before editing.

posted by Ken Spratlin
If all of the relevant dates are correct, then according to the Mimms W. Lee story, “Thomas Lee … moved to Prince Edward County with his young wife Mary Griffin” when he was 17 years old and Mary was 15.

I assume this would not have been highly unusual in colonial Virginia.

posted by Ken Bashford
edited by Ken Bashford
Once again I come across a Greenberry with no citatation and some vague reference to a decendant with a rifle who says they descend from Capt. Thomas Lee. Just who is this descendant? And where’s the citatation? It’s 2023 and no one has made a citation. Last post about this was 2018. It’s about time to start housekeeping on these VAGUE and non sourced descendants again… especially people named Greenberry!
posted by Pat Curley
Not sure what your post is inferring there Ms. Leslie, but I would be one of Capt. Thomas Lee’s profile managers, so I was seeing if anyone was goiing to respond before this fake Greenberry Lee Jr. child was removed from the children of Capt. Thomas Lee by ME.
posted by Pat Curley
edited by Pat Curley
Pat, I am curious. Do you have any sources indicating the need for the removal of Capt. Thomas Lee-7459 as father for Greenberry Lee-9072?

One is supposed to communicate before making such a big change, especially on a PPP profile like Lee-7459.

posted by Loretta (Leger) Corbin
Review Research Notes where information was found about descendant with a rifle. The source was on the profile. I just read it and added some of the information to the profile.
Which references Thomas Lee of Ditchley which makes this Thomas Greenberry Lee Jr. attached to the wrong Capt. Thomas Lee as I was trying to correct , but I am supposed to have a source for removing Ditchley line genealogy????????????
posted by Pat Curley
You had asked in an earlier comment 'who was the descendant?' So I was trying to give you that information.
See the discussion of Mimms W. Lee's story and how Mimms perhaps conflated at least two different people (if not more).

https://www.geni.com/people/Thomas-Lee-of-Ditchley/6000000012654184213

posted by Karen Brubaker
edited by Karen Brubaker
Lee-11109 and Lee-9072 appear to represent the same person because: Lee-11109 has the correct parents, please disconnect Margaret Howard as mother on Lee-9072
posted by Loretta (Leger) Corbin
Need to disconnect Mary Howard as mother, add Mary Agnes Griffin as his mother. www.wikitree.com/wiki/Griffin-5132
posted by Loretta (Leger) Corbin
Lee-21405 and Lee-9072 appear to represent the same person because: Same given name, same LNAB, approx same dates of birth and death, locations, same spouse
posted by David Douglass
The 1816 death date was probably from the father with the same name
posted by Vick Miles
Lee-13143 and Lee-11109 appear to represent the same person because: same parents, birth is similar, need to figure out which death is correct
posted by Robin Lee

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