Roger Lewknor

Roger Lewknor (abt. 1409 - 1479)

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Sir Roger Lewknor
Born about in Broadhurst, Horsted Keynes, Sussex, Englandmap
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Died in St George, Trotton, Sussex, Englandmap
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Sir Roger Lewknor is a descendant of Magna Carta surety baron William de Huntingfield

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Caution

The Visitation of Sussex incorrectly shows Sir Roger Lewknor's second. wife, Mary West, as the wife of Sir Roger's son, Roger "the elder" instead. See the son's page for a full discussion of this error.

Biography

Parentage

Sir Roger Lewknor of Broadhurst (in Horsted Keynes), Sussex, etc, son and heir of Sir Thomas Lewknor by his 1st wife, Philippe Dallingridge.[1]

Estimating Birthdate

He was 30 or more in 1452, and 50 or more in 1471. [1], thus was born not later than 1422 in the first instance or 1421 in the second. Since his first marriage took place in 1426, his birth could not have been this late.

Roger's father Thomas was aged 12 in 1404 and 19 in 1411 [2] and thus born in 1392. Between Thomas birth in 1392 and Roger's marriage in 1426 is a 34 year window in which two men must grow to maturity. Giving both father and son 17 of these years, places Thomas at age 17 at his son's estimated birth in 1409, with Roger then 17 at his marriage in 1426.

Therefore a birthdate of 1409 has been placed in the datafield. The location of birth is placed at the family seat of Horsted Keynes, but there is no evidence of this, nor of which of several plausible sites he spent his own time or at which his own children were born. Day-1904 07:27, 13 July 2015 (EDT)

Estates

Broadhurst (in Horsted Keynes), Dedisham (in Slinfold), Iteford, and Selmeston, Sussex
South Mimms, Middlesex
Whatton, Leicestershire
Stoke Doyle and Greatworth, Northamptonshire [1]
  • Knight of the Shire for Sussex
  • Sheriff of Surrey and Sussex, 1439-40, 1467-8
  • Keeper of the temporalities of the Archbishopric of Cantebury

In right of his 1st wife:

Trotton, Bevendean (in Falmer), Broadwater, and Camoys Court (in Barcombe) Sussex
Tythrop (in Kingsey), Buckinghamshire
Lasham, Hampshire

1426 Marriage to Eleanor Camoys

Before 1426 he married (1st) Eleanor Camoys, daughter of Sir Richard Camoys of Camoys (in Great Milton), Oxfordshire, by Joan daughter of Sir Richard Poynings, 3rd Lord Poynings. In 1426 she became co-heiress, with her sister Margaret (wife of Ralph Radmill Esq), on the death of her brother Hugh. She was born about 1408 (age 18 in 1426). [1]

Assuming Roger was born 1409, he was 17 when he married Eleanor in 1426.

Eleanor was living in 1433 and allegedly died in 1455[1] at the age of 47. The 11 children -- seven sons and four daughters -- of Roger and Eleanor were thus born in the 29 year period between 1426 and 1455.

In 1428 Roger, Eleanor, and Eleanor's sister Margaret were plaintiffs in a suit for the manors of Didling, Elsted, and Trotton in Sussex.

1455-1468 Marriage to Mary West

He married (2nd) Mary West, daughter of Sir Reginald West, 6th Baron la Warre, 3rd Baron West, by his 1st wife, Margaret Thorley.

The date of the marriage is unknown, however it was not later than 1468-9 when Roger and his wife Mary conveyed lands in South Mimms, Middlesex to Richard Carpenter. The date of the marriage could thus have been at any time between Eleanor's death in 1455 and the land transfer in 1468. [1]

Mary West was born circa 1426 at Snitterfield, Warwickshire, England. [3]

Marlyn Lewis, in accounting for the marriage, incorrectly states that Robert was born about 1421. [4] This would be reasonable if Mary West, born 1426, were his first marriage, but by the time of this marriage Robert had already had a previous marriage and 11 children!

Since Mary's marriage to Roger could have taken place at any time between 1455, when she was 29 and Roger 46, and 1468, when she was 42 and Roger 59, an earlier date would be much more plausible for a first marriage for her, and motherhood of three children.

In 1471, Roger became heir to his uncle, Richard Dallingridge Esq of Lymbourne, and inherited Bodiam Castle etc.

Mary died on July 24, 1473. [1]

1477 Marriage to Katherine Chidiock

Roger married (3rd), by settlement dated 1477, the heiress Katherine Chidiock, widow of William Stafford of Stinsford Esq and of John Arundell of Lanherne. She was the daughter of John Chidiock of Chideock by Katherine Lumley, daughter of the 1st Lord Lumley.

Assuming Roger was born in 1409, he was 68 when he married Katherine Chidiock in 1477.

1478 Death

He died 4 August 1478, leaving a will (dated 23 July, proved 28 Nov). He was survived by his wife, who died 9 April 1479.

Issue

Richardson [1] shows Roger and Eleanor had 7 sons and 4 daughters as children of Roger and Eleanor. The Visitation of Sussex [5] also shows 11 children for Roger and Eleanor, but not all of the children are the same.

These children would have been born between the beginning of the marriage. about 1426, and Eleanor's death, about 1445.

  1. Thomas Lewknor, Knt, child of Roger and Eleanor [1], born abt 1444, married Katherine Pelham and father of Sybilla Lewknor. Sir Thomas Lewknor, Knight, of Trotton, Co. Sussex, married Katherin, daughter of Sir John Pelham, Knt. [5]
  2. Roger (the elder, 1st of name), child of Roger and Eleanor [1] Had no surviving children. [5] It is unusual for a person to give the same name to more than one of his children. One understandable reason this might have happened is if the first Roger suffered an untimely death before the birth of the second. Roger could have been born, say, 1430.
  3. William, child of Roger and Eleanor [1]Had no surviving children. [5].
  4. Edward, child of Roger and Eleanor [1]Had no surviving children. [5]
  5. Richard Lewknor. child of Roger and Eleanor [1]born England 1440, married Eleanor Town, father of Bennett Lewknor. Or, Richard Lewknor of Sherfield who married ___ the daughter of ___ Mychellgrove. [5]
  6. John, child of Roger and Eleanor [1]. Not shown in Visitation of Sussex. [5]
  7. John (2) child of Roger and Eleanor [1]Not shown in Visitation of Sussex. [5]
  8. Margaret (or Margery) Lewknor, child of Roger and Eleanor [1] Shown in Visitation of Sussex. [5]
  9. Mary, child of Roger and Eleanor [1]. Marye, shown in Visitation of Sussex. [5]
  10. Amy, child of Roger and Eleanor [1]Amye, shown in Visitation of Sussex. [5]
  11. Elizabeth Lewknor, married John Wroth, Esq, of Durants (in Enfield), Middlesex, child of Roger and Eleanor [1], b. 1440, Horsted Keynes, Sussex, England. Not shown as child of Roger and Eleanor in Visitation. [5]

Roger and Mary West had three sons.[1]. They would have been born between about 1455, and 1473.

  1. Reynold
  2. Roger Lewknor, Esq, of Tangmere, Sussex, m. Anne ___.,[1]. Estimated date of birth -- before 1469 and perhaps as early as 1460.
  3. George

Sources

  • Royal Ancestry by Douglas Richardson Vol. IV p. 683
  1. 1.00 1.01 1.02 1.03 1.04 1.05 1.06 1.07 1.08 1.09 1.10 1.11 1.12 1.13 1.14 1.15 1.16 1.17 1.18 1.19 1.20 Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, III, 572-4 LEWKNOR-15
  2. Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, III, 571, LEWKNOR-14
  3. Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 19-20., cited by Marlyn Lewis, Our Royal, Titled, Noble and Commoner Ancestors.
  4. Marlyn Lewis, Our Royal, Titled, Noble and Commoner Ancestors.
  5. 5.00 5.01 5.02 5.03 5.04 5.05 5.06 5.07 5.08 5.09 5.10 5.11 W Bruce Bannerman, ed., "The Visitations of the County of Sussex, Made and Taken in the Years 1530 by Thomas Benolte , Clarenceux King of Arms, and 1633-4 by John Philipot, Somerset Herald, and George Owen, York Herald, for Sir John Burroughs, Garter, and Sir Richard St. George, Clarenceux", The Publications of the Harleian Society, LIII, (London: Harleian Society, 1905), accessed 8 July 2015, http://www.archive.org/stream/visitationscoun00banngoog#page/n41/mode/2up pp.26-8.


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On 17 Mar 2017 at 18:26 GMT J (Schmeeckle) S wrote:

Roger Lewknor could very easily have been married at the age of 5 or 6 --this was not uncommon for heirs. Age "30 or more" means he was in his 31st year -- so he was born about 1421.

On 14 Jul 2015 at 14:33 GMT Jack Day wrote:

Lewknor-83 now lives on as the son of Lewknor-25, with an important profile of his explaining why the Visitation of Sussex is wrong, and Lewknor-83 is not the wife of Mary West.

On 13 May 2015 at 13:33 GMT Maryann (Thompson) Hurt wrote:

Lewknor-83 and Lewknor-25 are not ready to be merged because: a few discrepancies



Roger is 21 degrees from SJ Baty, 23 degrees from Orville Redenbacher and 15 degrees from Victoria of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland on our single family tree. Login to find your connection.

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