Daniel Lillie (1778 - 1858)

Born 27 Jan 1778 in Wherstead, Suffolk, England

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Died 17 Mar 1858 at age 80 in St Paul's, Manitoba, Canada

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Biography

• Daniel LILLIE was born around 1780 in the Parish of Ipswich in Suffolk, London, England. Surname variations: LILLIE, LILLY, LILLEY

• In 1820 Daniel began his career with the Hudson’s Bay Company (HBC) as a Sailor. That year he arrived in Hudson Bay aboard the ship Prince of Wales, and thence to Moose Factory at the south end of James Bay.

• Children:
• 1. WILLIAM LILLIE May 1, 1830 (m. Eliza GAGNON)
• 2. ELIZABETH (BETSY) LILLIE 1833 (m1. John SWAIN, m2. Peter McLAUGHLIN)
• 3. NANCY ANN LILLIE Jun 22, 1835 (m1. George HARCUS, m2. John IRVINE)
• 4. FRANCES LILLIE 1837 (m. William ROBERTSON)
• 5. JAMES LILLIE 1841 (m. Marie Catherine PERRAULT dit MORIN)
• 6. JANE LILLIE Nov 15, 1845 (m. Moise McLEOD)
• 7. MARY ANN Jan 13, 1847(twin) LILLIE(S) (m1. Donald CUMMINGS, m2. Roderick COOK, m3. Peter LOUIS/LEWIS)
• 8. JOHN GEORGE Jan 13, 1847 (twin) LILLIE (m. Sarah FAVEL)

Daniel travelled to Canada around 1820 with the Hudson Bay Company. He worked as a mechanic, carpenter, laborer and sailor. He retired to Red River in 1834.

In the records of the Hudson Bay Company, Daniel had several children with "a native woman." The native woman was a "half-breed" named Mary Richardson. It is unknown if they were married earlier in a native ceremony, but they were married in the Christian way 17 Dec 1840 St. John's Parish, Red River Settlement, Manitoba, Canada.

1. Elizabeth "Betsy"
2. William
3. Nancy
4. Unnamed daughter (possibly Frances)
5. Frances Lillie (1837 - 1916).
6. Jane
7. James
8. John George
9. Mary Ann

Daniel died on 17 Mar 1858 in St Paul's, Manitoba, Canada. He was buried 18 Mar 1858 in St Paul's, Manitoba, Canada.

Research Notes

• According to the original import, Daniel married Mary Ann in 1840 in Canada. If this is correct, then he would not be in the 1841, 1851, and 1861 England census in Essex. (especially since he died in 1858)
• I think Daniel Lillie born in Suffolk, stayed in England and married Elizabeth Toudup.
• Parents need to be removed from this profile and correct parents and birth information researched.
  • These parents, Sussanah May and John Lilley have now been removed. Susannah would have been 8 years old at the time of this Daniel's birth
• On some trees, parents are listed as James Lillie and Ann Dale, but there are no sources listed.
• Birth info on the Daniel Lillie born in Suffolk: Daniel Lillie was born on 9 Jul 1791 in Leavenheath, Suffolk, England, and was christened 5 days later on the 14th in Nayland, Suffolk. His parents were John Lilley ( - ) and Susanna May (1770 - ). Christening Record^[1][2]
• Re: Daniel Lillie came with HBC in 1820 to Manitoba, Canada

tamzz Posted: 15 Apr 2009 11:08PM

Classification: Query

Surnames: Lilley, Lillie, Lilly

Anyone who did not get their family info into Mary Conway's Lilley book should be contacting her at (email deleted) She might still be working on her 2nd book of Lilleys. P.S Mary has a good selection of Lilley family photos.

Daniel Lilley March 18, 1858

James Lilley 1919

James Robert Lilley 1943

Mathew Lilley Dec 1969

Keith Lilley Dec 2006 Garry Lilley Feb 9, 2008

Garry's brother Grant is the last Lilley name of our family line.

• Re: Daniel Lillie came with HBC in 1820 to Manitoba, Canada

charlottehumphries Posted: 15 Nov 2002 5:30PM

Classification: Query

Surnames:

Hi, I'm the English Cousin!

I have info on the parents of Daniel and family history which I will be checking out at the records office on Wed 20 Nov 02, it's very exciting!

By all means contact me (email deleted)

Sources

• https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/KT3B-QB5

• https://www.redriverancestry.ca/LILLIE-DANIEL-1780.php

• Title: Metis Culture 1818-1820 Note: 1 _UPD 11 JUL 2009 01:11:58 GMT-9 1 _UID 5CEAEA59-1D78-47F6-8500-AADDA93C5F62

Sources

1. ↑ "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NPVH-3F7 : 19 March 2020), Daniel Lilley, 1791.
   • View Ancestry Record 2972 #1011755 (requires subscription).
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2. ↑ "England and Wales Non-Conformist Record Indexes (RG4-8), 1588-1977," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FW2V-2NL : 11 December 2014), Daniel Lilley, 14 Jul 1791, Baptism; citing p. 20, Nayland, Suffolk, record group RG4, Public Record Office, London.

• MNunn Publication: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgiop=SRCH&db=mnunn&surname=A
• MNunn Publication: Name: Name: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SRCH&db=mnunn&surname=A
• Genealogical Research Library, Ontario, Canada Title: Canadian Genealogy Index, 1600s-1900s Publication: Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2005. Compiled from various family history sources.
• Ancestry Family Trees Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network. Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members. http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=9078439&pid=-854350409
• WikiTree profile Lillie-149 created through the import of Mykin_2012-01-10.ged on Jan 11, 2012 by Garnet Quigley.
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