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Unknown Lincolnshire (965)

Unknown Lincolnshire
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Profile last modified | Created 12 May 2012
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Biography

This profile is for the unknown father of Thorold the Sheriff, covering the uncertain proposal that he and Lady Godiva were brother and sister.

Keats-Rohan explains her understanding of the evidence and its strength as follows. (Versions of the following paragraph appear in both "Antecessor Noster" and the Malets article, this one is from "Antecessor Noster", broken into its sourced components):

  • "A spurious charter of Crowland Abbey made Turold of Bucknall (the Sheriff) the founder of the priory of Spalding as a cell of Crowland. It also called Turold brother of Godiva countess of Mercia, but subsequently described Godiva’s son Earl Algar as Turold’s cognatus (cousin)." [Monasticon Anglicanum ii, 118-19.]
  • "A genealogia fundatoris of Coventry Abbey made Lucy a daughter of Earl Algar and sister and heiress of earls Edwin and Morcar. [Ibid., ii, 192.] The Peterborough Chronicle and the Pseudo-Ingulf’s Chronicle of Crowland both made Lucy the daughter of Algar and niece or great-niece of Turold." [See Complete Peerage, vii, App. J, 743-6, here 745 and note.]
  • "We know that William Malet was half-English, so these traditions probably boil down to a relationship between Countess Godiva and William’s English mother."


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instead of merging I'll move everything to the son
posted by Andrew Lancaster
Father and son's profiles are merged into one big mess.
posted by Kevin Nauta
My 28th ggf.
posted by Frankie Johnson
Although Thorold may have married a Beatrice Edith de Malet, she doesn't seem to be the one listed here, who was born far too late. She should be disconnected, I think.
posted by Steve Selbrede
Godiva's brother? [1] or that just a rumour?
posted by Darrell Parker
Thorold seems to be 90 years older than these wives. Would help to have Coventry in Warwickshire.
posted by C. Mackinnon
Note that Thorold was 110 when his son Nigell Chester was born. He is not considered one of his sons.
posted by Steve Selbrede
Since Godwin was born in 975, 20 years after Thorold, Godwin can't be his parent or Grand parent. He should be disconnected.

On the other hand, Hakfwive was born in 930 and could be his mother.

posted by Steve Selbrede
I think there is a generation missing in this line. I believe that this person is the son of Lincoln-40 and that the parents shown here are actually grandparents....those dates would make more sense. See http://washington.ancestryregister.com/COVENTRY100006.htm
posted by Robin Lee
Pending Merges Help

Thorold (Lincolnshire) Mercia of Bukenha [compare] [merge] [match] [reject] (PPP Lincolnshire-7) Oct 3, 2013 Thorold (De Lincoln) Lincoln [compare] [merge] [match] [reject] (De Lincoln-4) Jun 25, 2013 Thorald (Lincolnshire) of Lincolnshire [compare] [merge] [match] [reject] (Lincolnshire-4) Sep 26, 2012

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