James Loper (abt. 1737)

Born about 1737 in East Hampton, Suffolk, New York

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Biography

James was born (1776 - 39 = 1737), baptized 1739 in Southampton. He is the son of James Loper and Phoebe Jones.

He was born in Southampton, was 5' 11" tall, yeoman. On July 24, 1776 he was 39 years old. ^[1]

Genealogical Records

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Vital Records

• Primary Source, Records of the town of East Hampton, Long Island, Suffolk Co., N.Y., Volume V. ^[2] Data: Vital records for the family of James and Phebe Loper:

1. ) East Hampton VR; page 525: James Loper & Phebe Jones were married on 8 Sept 1725.
   1. ) East Hampton VR; page 465: Daniel Loper, son of James, baptized 4 Sept 1726.
   2. ) East Hampton VR; page 467: Lion Loper, son of James, baptized 18 Feb 1727/8.
   3. ) East Hampton VR; page 469: David Loper, son of James, baptized 16 Jan 1731/2.
   4. ) East Hampton VR; page 471: Amos Loper, son of James, baptized 23 Feb 1734/5.
   5. ) East Hampton VR; page 475: John Loper, son of James, baptized 24 April 1737.
   6. ) East Hampton VR; page 475: James Loper, son of James, baptized 16 Sept. 1739.
   7. ) East Hampton VR; page 596: The wife of Jeans Loper, died on 12 April 1772.
   8. ) East Hampton VR; page 605: James Loper, 90ty years of age, died 21 January 1790.

Published Genealogical Information

• Secondary Source, Mather, The Refugees of 1776 from Long Island to Connecticut ^[1] This history text provides a narrative regarding the British occupation of Long Island during the Revolutionary War and the impact it had on the residents of that place, and it provides the detailed Genealogy of the Early Loper family. Note that the following extract has rearranged from the original text such that the information flow is in a linear, generational flow; also note the number in parenthesis is Mather's assignment of the generation of the descendant relative to the first Loper immigrant, Jacobus Loper (1648-1691):

1. ) LI Refugees; Page 455,456: Arthur Loper (3), son of James (2), of East Hampton, {Long Island, New York}, m. Patience, dau. of George Havens and Elinor Thurston. He removed to N.J. The fact that he had relatives there living may have influenced his moving. {Who were these relatives? Answer first cousin James Davis (abt.1675-)} He was in Elizabethtown in 1700. (NJ. Records) The will of Arthur, of Salem Co., proved June 13, 1720, mentions the land of estate was located in the Piles Grove precinct of N.J.; his wife Patience; and the following children (all under age except David:
   1. ) David (4),
   2. ) Arthur (4): I {Author Frederick Mather} know of no record to establish the tradition that Arthur {4} returned to Long Island; m. Sally Rogers; moved on land North of Bridge Hampton, and probably established the branch of the Family there. The Bridge Hampton Church Records give brothers and sisters: John, James, Isaac, Patience, and Mary. We {again Author Frederick Mather} assume them to be the children of Arthur 4 and Sally Rogers. "
      1. ) John (5);
      2. ) James (5); b 1717, d. 1790. Noting that "At this point a generation has probably been omitted" Mather jumps to James Loper (5), of Hampton. {Editorial comment by RRBeebe: The Mather text never actually links James (5) as the son of Arthur (4), but this link is clearly inferred as the only fifth generation James (5), (i.e. the father of Daniel (6) to James (6)) to be identified in the text is the son of Arthur (4). This assertion by Mather can be PROVEN to be INCORRECT as follows: an analysis of Mather's generational timeline reveals that Arthur (4), born circa 1701/2 would have had to have fathered James at the age of 15 or 16 in order for of James (5) to have been born by the Mather assigned 1717 date of birth. Furthermore, Daniel (6) (shown below) son of James (5) is now known from the East Hampton Vital records ^[2] to have been baptized on 4 Sept 1726 hence James (5) would have only been 9 years old when he was born. Thus it is impossible for James the father of Daniel, etal to have been from the fifth Loper generation as proposed by Mather; there just is not enough time between Mather's proposed generation four, Arthur (4) (b. 1702) and generation six Daniel (6) (b.1726) to insert another generation. Mather sensed this problem and fudged the dates in his narrative to make this assertion appear to be a better fit; but in the end he was not satisfied, and hence inserted the uncertainty qualifier "At this point a generation has probably been omitted" into his narrative. The obvious answer to this dilemma is that James the father of Daniel etal, must be a fourth generation Loper, and not from the fifth generation. The problem with this conclusion for Mather (and us) is that he could not find the evidence to place James in the fourth generation. Given that this James, of East Hampton, could not have been James Loper, the son of Arthur (3), because the historical evidence clearly shows that James, son of Arthur (3) lived his entire life, then died in Cumberland Co.,NJ.; the inescapable deduction is that James, the father of Daniel etal, is a heretofore unknown son of Lion Loper (3), who has somehow managed to exist without leaving a known documentation trail; and while this assertion is overtly speculative, it is clearly the far superior alternative of the only possible options. To wit, there are only three possible options; either James' father is Lion, who is documented to be real and living in East Hampton at the time James was born, or Arthur and Lion had to have had yet another completely unknown, undocumented brother to be James' father, or (black swan) James was a new immigrant to America. This list of options is the universe of choices simply because there were no other known Lopers in America available to have been the father of this James in the required timeframe. (RRB)} Children of James (5):
         1. ) Daniel (6); signed the Association in 1775. (H. 28) and he was in the census of 1776, with two males over 16, one who was probably David (7) below. {The East Hampton Vital Records document Daniel, son of James and Phobe, to have been baptized on 4 Sept 1726, five years earlier than Mather's 1731 birthdate. The implication of this correction is that James (5) (b.1717), son of Arthur (4), and the implied father of Daniel would have only been nine years old when Daniel was born. This analysis completely refutes the notion that James, the father of Daniel could have been the son of Arthur Jr. (4).}
         2. ) William (6);
         3. ) Amos (6);
         4. ) Sgt. Abraham Loper (6); b. ca 1737. From East Hampton to Stonington (in the evacuation of Long Island). in Sept 1776, by Capt. David Saryre. (C 97,138). He signed the Association in 1775. (H 28) He served as a private and Serjt, in Col. Smith's Regt. (G. 7,31); in the 3d and 4th of the Line; also as a Sgt. in the 4th Line. He probably returned to LI. (Dr. Arthur C. Loper). 1776 census: one male and one female over 16; 3 males under 16. {Editorial comment (RRB:) Abraham Loper does NOT appear as a son of James and Pheobe Loper in the East Hampton Vital Records.}
         5. ) James Loper (6), b. ca. 1737. Brother of Abraham (above); From East Hampton. Served in Col. Smith's Regt, also in the 4th line. He signed the Association in 1775.
   3. ) Thurston (4),
   4. ) John (4),
   5. ) James (4),
   6. ) William (4),
   7. ) Jonathan (4), and
   8. ) Phebe (4),
2. ) The line of Lion Loper third generation descendant:
   1. ) Lion Loper (3), son of James (2); moved to Guilford, Conn in 1745.
      1. ) Samuel Loper, served in the French War
      2. ) Joanna Loper; b. 6 Feb 1788; m. Samuel Fyler 19 Nov 1718 at E. Hampton, NY. Mather notes she was probably a daughter of Lion, but could have been a daughter of Jacob and Elizabeth. {Other sources affirm the assertion that Joanna was the daughter of James and Elizabeth.}
3. ) Mather; Page 1005; From the muster roll of Captain Ezekiel Mumford's 12th company in the Regiment of Col. Josiah Smith:
   1. ) James Loper S.; age 39; of Southampton; 5' 11"; light eyes; light hair; Yeoman.

• Secondary Source, Jeannette Edwards, Rattray, East Hampton History Including Genealogies of Early Families; 1953. ^[3] Data:

1. ) East Hampton History; page 439: James Loper, son of Arthur Loper and Patience (Havens) Loper, born in 1700; ; joined the E. Hampton church in 1725; married Phebe Jones (1706-1772), daughter of Edward and Phebe (Talmage) Jones, in 1725; died in 1790. Children of James and Phebe:
   1. ) Daniel Loper; b. 1726; m. 1754 Mary daughter of Jacob Schellinger and Elizabeth Miller;
   2. ) Lion Loper; b. 1727
   3. ) David Loper; b. 1732; left LI.
   4. ) Amos Loper; b. 1735; m. Lucretia Conklin.
   5. ) John Loper; b. 1737; left LI after the revolution.
   6. ) James Loper; b. 1739; left LI after the revolution.
   7. ) Abraham Loper; b. 1740 or 1741; m. Elizabeth Conkling (1742-1818); d. 1815.
   8. ) William Loper; b. 1742; m. Elizabeth ____;

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Sources

1. ↑ ^{1.0 1.1} Mather, Frederick Gregory, The Refugees of 1776 from Long Island to Connecticut, Albany, New York, J. B. Lyon Company, Printers, 1913. Public Domain.
2. ↑ ^{2.0 2.1} Records of the town of East Hampton, Long Island, Suffolk Co., N.Y., Volume V.; Sag Harbor, John H. Hunt, Printer, 1905. Public domain.
3. ↑ Rattray, Jeannette Edwards, East Hampton History Including Genealogies of Early Families; 1953.

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