Jacob ‘Jake’ Lopp was born about 1770 at Abbots Creek, Rowan County, North Carolina; the son of Colonel John Lopp and Elizabeth Miller. He married Magdalena ‘Molly’ Waggoner in Rowan County in 1794. [1] His father, Colonel John Lopp, died in 1801 and left him 200 acres in Rowan County. [2] He wrote his will in Rowan County in 1822 and may have died there as late as 1866; however, no primary record of his death has surfaced. He mentioned the following six children in his will: John, Jacob, Susannah, David, Catherine and Mary. There was also an Elizabeth who died young. [3] In all probability he was buried at the Pilgrim Evangelical and Reformed Church Cemetery in Lexington, the church with which he was affiliated. [4]
alt birth dates of 10 Oct 1770, 1764, 1777
alt death dates: 20 Oct 1822 , 1840
from Will of Jacob Lopp:
"I give to my Daughter Susannah married to Adam Hedrick one-Hungred and fifty dollars --"
"I give and bequeath to my daughter Catharine Lopp one-Hungred and fifty dollars --"
Research Notes
Note: Still researching parents of Susanna Lopp. Other family trees have Jacob Lopp Sr Find A Grave: Memorial #140232846 (Birth: 1764, Rowan County, North Carolina, USA; Death: Sep 1840, Harrison County, Indiana, USA) as her father. But the associated daughter of this Jacob Lopp, Susannah Lopp Funkhouser (1794 - 1877) died Sep 1840, Harrison County, Indiana, USA (and the gravestone this Find a Grave site clearly reads "Rosanna").
Since, I have tied 2 Lopp branches (Johannes (abt.1735-1801) & John Jacob (abt 1725-abt 1792)), using information from "Lopp ancestors who came to Rowan County, North Carolina : before the Revolutionary War and their ancestors" by Mrs. Marion Lopp Cast and Mrs Marion Forbes Lopp, Belton, Missouri : M L Cast, 1987. (Cited in biography of Johannes Lopp (abt.1735-1801). With this connection, I have been able to trace a genetic match, although further research is needed to verify the parents of Jacob (FamilySearch has 3 possible parents) [5] My close family and I have unusually strong DNA matches with at least 3 distant cousins who are Lopp descendants. -- Kent Creamer
I took responsibility for the abandoned profile Catharine (Lopp) Wagner (1803-1881) at the same time as I also took on the profiles of what was listed as Catherine's parents, Jacob Lopp (abt 1767-abt 1866) and Magdalena (Waggoner) Lopp (1778-abt 1840), (my direct ancestors). Due to compelling evidence presented by John Smith, as well as reviewing "evidence" claiming to support these relationships, I came to the conclusion that the wrong Catherine had been listed as their daughter. In fact, wedding records for both husbands list David Waggoner's wife (as well as Tussey's) as Waggoner, not Lopp. This profile, previously id as Lopp-6 will be changed to maiden name Waggoner,Catharine (Waggoner) Wagner (1803-1881), (parents unknown), until better evidence is presented. I have replaced this Catherine with Catherine (Lopp) Lanning (abt 1805-1862) as the daughter of Jacob and Magdelena Lopp. -- Kent Creamer
Will of Jacob Lopp; From familysearch.org, Davidson County, NC probate records, image 5-6; Leslie_Bucher originally shared this on 17 Feb 2012 on Ancestry.com Ancestry image; pdf copy on WikiTree
North Carolina, Marriage Records, 1741-2011 - Rowan Marriage Bonds (1762 - 1883); Series : Marriage Bonds (1762 - 1883); Ancestry.com. North Carolina, Marriage Records, 1741-2011 [1]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com, Inc., 2015.; Original data: North Carolina County Registers of Deeds. Microfilm. Record Group 048. North Carolina State Archives, Raleigh, NC. Ancestry image; image on WikiTree
North Carolina, Marriage Records, 1741-2011 - Rowan - Index to Marriages - Female (1760 - 1998); Series : Index to Marriages - Female (1760-1998); Ancestry.com. North Carolina, Marriage Records, 1741-2011 [2]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2015.; Original data: North Carolina County Registers of Deeds. Microfilm. Record Group 048. North Carolina State Archives, Raleigh, NC. Ancestry image; image on WikiTree
"United States Census, 1790 - Rowan, North Carolina," database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHK1-YJJ), Jacob Lopp, Rowan, North Carolina, United States; citing p 314, NARA microfilm publication M637, (Washington DC: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 7; FHL microfilm 568,147.; Entries: Males: 16 and up including head: 1, Under 16: 1; Free white females: 5; FamilySearch image; image on WikiTree
"United States Census, 1800 - Salisbury, Rowan, North Carolina," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHRW-7GH : accessed 22 Jan 2023), Jacob Lopp, Salisbury, Rowan, North Carolina, United States; citing p 355, NARA microfilm publication M32, (Washington DC: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 33; FHL microfilm 337,909.; Entries: Males: 0-9 years: 2, 26-44 years: 1 ; Females: 0-9 years: 2, 16-25 years: 1; FamilySearch image; image on WikiTree
United States Census, 1810 - Rowan, North Carolina, database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XH2J-164), Jacob Lop, p 245, Affiliate Publication Number M252, Affiliate Name The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA); Entries: Males: 0-9 years: 2, 10-15 years: 1, 26-44 years: 1; Females: 0-9 years: 2, 10-15 years: 2, 26-44 years: 1; Slaves: 3; Note: This records fits well for the parents, but perhaps not so well for the children of family; FamilySearch image; image on WikiTree
United States Census, 1820 - Lexington Side, Rowan, North Carolina, database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHLQ-SQW), Jacob Loop p 332, Affiliate Publication Number M33, Affiliate Name The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA); Entries: Males: between 16 & 18 years: 1, 16-25 years incl heads of family: 1, 45 years & over: 1; Females: 0-9 years: 2, 10-15 years: 3, 16-25 years: 1, 26-44 years: 1; FamilySearch image; image on WikiTree
Will of John Jacob Wagner p 81 (source title not given); c. walker originally shared this on 03 Jan 2019 to Ancestry.com; Comment by Ancestry member JAXJONESING: "There are several discrepancies between this transcription and the original."
25 Ancestry Member Trees; Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members.
Otte Family Tree (Via MyHeritage "SmartMatch")
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Acknowledgements
Original GEDCOM import data by Grady Lucas
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WikiTree profile Lopp-3 created through the import of My Family File072211.ged on 25 Jul 2011 by Grady Lucas. See the Changes page for the details of edits by Grady and others.
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DNA Confirmations
all matches weaker than 7 cM and further than 3rd cousin are to be considered as supporting evidence, not proof of relationship
Further segment details at Kent Creamer, bottom of page
Paternal and Maternal relationship is confirmed by:
a 38.56 cM 23andMe test match between Kent Creamer and Lyle Davison, his 5th cousin 1x removed. Predicted relationship from 23andMe: "4th Cousin based on 0.52% DNA shared across 1 segment." Roughly the same segment 38.57 cM is also shared with Kent's mother Anomymous (Hedrick) Creamer, fifth cousin. Predicted relationship from 23andMe: "4th Cousin based on 0.52% DNA shared across 1 segment." 38.83 cM with Kent's sister Kristie Creamer, 5th cousin 1x removed. Predicted relationship from 23andMe: "4th Cousin based on 0.52% DNA shared across 1 segment.". A 40 cM with Kent's daughter Keyasha Creamer, fifth cousin twice removed. Predicted relationship from 23andMe: "4th Cousin based on 0.53% DNA shared across 1 segment.". Common ancestors: Johannes Lopp & Elizabeth Franklin Miller.
a 38.56 cM 23andMe test match between Kent Creamer and Kathy Davison Brown, his 6th cousin. Predicted relationship from 23andMe: "4th Cousin based on 0.52% DNA shared across 1 segments." Roughly the same segment 38.96 cM is also shared with Kent's mother Anomymous (Hedrick) Creamer, fifth cousin once removed. Predicted relationship from 23andMe: "4th Cousin based on 0.52% DNA shared across 1 segments." A 40.44 cM with Kent's sister Kristie Creamer, 6th cousin. Predicted relationship from 23andMe: "4th Cousin based on 0.54% DNA shared across 1 segments.". A 41 cM match with Kent's daughter Keyasha Creamer, 6th cousin once removed. Predicted relationship from 23andMe: "4th Cousin based on 0.54% DNA shared across 1 segments." Common ancestors: Johannes Lopp & Elizabeth Franklin Miller.
a 28.8 cM match between Kent Creamer GEDmatch M125248 and his 6th cousin [[Davison-3046|Kathy Davison Brown]'s] GEDmatch M161677 (Total of 1 matching segment > 7, Largest segment = 28.8 cM). Common ancestors: Johannes Lopp & Elizabeth Franklin Miller.
a 29 cM 23andMe test match between Kent Creamer and Claudia (Lopp) Martin, his 6th cousin once removed. Predicted relationship from 23andMe: "4th Cousin based on 0.39% DNA shared across 1 segment." Roughly the same segment 30 cM is also shared with Kent's mother Anomymous (Hedrick) Creamer, her 6th cousin Predicted relationship from 23andMe: "4th Cousin based on 0.39% DNA shared across 1 segments." A 29 cM with Kent's sister Kristie Creamer, 6th cousin once removed Predicted relationship from 23andMe: "4th Cousin based on 0.38% DNA shared across 1 segments.". A 29 cM match with Kent's daughter Keyasha Creamer, 6th cousins twice removed Predicted relationship from 23andMe: "4th Cousin based on 0.39% DNA shared across 1 segment." Common ancestors: Johannes Lopp (abt.1700-)
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DNA Connections
It may be possible to confirm family relationships with Jacob by comparing test results with other carriers of his Y-chromosome or his mother's mitochondrial DNA.
However, there are no known yDNA or mtDNA test-takers in his direct paternal or maternal line.
It is likely that these autosomal DNA test-takers will share some percentage of DNA with Jacob:
IMHO evidence points to Catherine Lopp-179, who married Thomas Lanning-1093, as the daughter of Jacob Lopp-3 and Magdalena Waggoner-1328; rather than Catherine Lopp-6 who married David Wagner-946 and Gersham Tussey-7. It is unlikely Jacob and Magdalena named two daughters Catherine.
Oct 1824 • “Family History of Henry Ward Hendrick” by Ann Troianello • originally shared by Kent Creamer-347 09 Aug 2021 • https://www.wikitree.com/photo.php/3/36/Lopp-3-2.pdf • Allegedly contains a document re the estate of Jacob Lopp from Davidson County Court’s Oct 1824 term. It lists family members with an interest in his estate: Thomas Lanning, Catherine Lanning, David Lopp, Jacob Lopp, John Lopp, Adam Hedrick, Susanna Hedrick. (I cannot access it.)
1830 • “…Thomas Lanning (and wife Catherine Lopp) who emigrated from North Carolina to Indiana settling in Greene Township (Parke County) where he entered eighty acres of land of the Government as early as 1830, being one of the pioneers of this region.” • Chapman Brothers • “Portrait and Biographical Record of Montgomery, Parke and Fountain Counties Indiana” : Chicago 1893 p 210 1st column • https://archive.org/details/portraitbiographmont00chap/page/210/mode/2up
20 Nov 1843 • Enos Lanning’s will, Davidson County, North Carolina: “Fifth: I devise and bequeath unto my son Thomas Lanning $150, if he be found.” • “Lanning Family History” 1st Edition : Lanning Family publisher • Asheville 1973 pp 241, 242 • https://docplayer.net/39080437-Lanning-family-history.html • The “if he be found” quote indicates Thomas Lanning lives far away and does not maintain contact.
Date and locale? • Thomas Lanning buys from Jacob Lopp's estate: fire tongs, shovel $0.85; Grafs sythe $1.06; linen wheel $0.45; razors, soap, slate, books $3.03; 2 pewter basins $0.85; 2 pewter dishes $2.05; brand box, brush $0.50 • Familysearch.org (Cannot now find the specific source for this in Family Search. If anyone has it, please forward.)
Ok, you've presented a strong case. And after looking over the "evidence" for the previously stated relations, I find the following problems:
First, it would mean that Catherine married her maternal uncle.
Second, there is no real evidence yet found that Catherine's last name was even Lopp.
So, I wil change the current relations to those you have suggested, and remove the last name of David Waggoner's wife. If anyone has any objections to either of these changes, please let me know.
For your DNA confirmation statements: Because the matching test takers are all more distantly related than third cousin, you will need to use triangulation. See this part of the DNA confirmation instructions:
I've changed the 'confirmed with DNA' entry to 'confident'. Please add the appropriate documentation before changing it back to 'confirmed with DNA'. Thanks!
edited by John Smith MD
First, it would mean that Catherine married her maternal uncle.
Second, there is no real evidence yet found that Catherine's last name was even Lopp.
So, I wil change the current relations to those you have suggested, and remove the last name of David Waggoner's wife. If anyone has any objections to either of these changes, please let me know.
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Help:DNA_Confirmation#Are_you_third_cousins_or_closer.3F
I've changed the 'confirmed with DNA' entry to 'confident'. Please add the appropriate documentation before changing it back to 'confirmed with DNA'. Thanks!