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Thomas Loring (abt. 1600 - 1661)

Deacon Thomas Loring
Born about in Axminster, Devonshire, Englandmap
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married about 1624 in Devon, Englandmap [uncertain]
Descendants descendants
Died in Hull, Suffolk, Massachusetts Bay Colonymap
Profile last modified | Created 31 May 2009
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The Birth Date is a rough estimate. See the text for details.
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Disputed Origins

Anthony Loring and Bridget (Sanders) Loring were previously attached as parents of Thomas Loring; however there is no supporting evidence (sources) for this parental relationship. They are being detached; but should reliable sources become available, they may certainly be reattached after collaboration with the profile managers. Thank you.

Biography

Birth

Date: About December 1600, Axminster, Devon, England. Origin Axminster, Devon, England, emigration of 1635 based upon his 18 Sep 1635 land grant (HiBOP 14). [1]

Marriage

Thomas married Jane Newton of Axminster, Devon, England sometime before 1625. Whilst the Loring Genealogy states that "Her ancestry is thus far unknown to her descendants"[2] (Book Page 1) there is a very good chance, unproven at this time, that Jane was born in the same area as Thomas.

Children of this marriage

Deacon Loring brought with him from England a wife Jane [Newton], and two sons, the younger four years old at the time. Two other sons were born in this country. Three brothers settled in Hull, Massachusetts; but Josiah continued to live in Hingham. Josiah Loring married Elizabeth, daughter of John Prince, the first of the Prince family who came to' America.

Born in England
Thomas, b. Abt March 1625. chr. 27 March 1625. d. 30 March 1625.[3]
Thomas, b. 1626. chr. 5 March 1626[4]
John, b.1629. chr. 27 Dec 1629[5]
Born in America[2] (Book Page 8)
Isaac b. 1640 d. 1640
Isaac b. 1641 d. 1644
Josiah b. 1642
Benjamin b. 1644

Arrival in America

Thomas arrived in America on the 23rd December, 1634 and joined the church colony at Hingham, which had come from Hingham, Norfolkshire, under the lead of an Independent minister. Rev. Robert Peck.[2] (Book page 1)

Death

Thomas died at Hull, Plymouth, Massachusetts, America on the 4th of April, 1661.[6]
Thomas died intestate. Administration was granted to his widow Jane and eldest son Thomas, April 18, following......[2](Book Page 3)

Historical Notes

The Lorings are descended from Deacon Thomas Loring who came from Axminster, now a manufacturing town on the river Ax, Devonshire, England, to Dorchester, Massachusetts, December 22, 1634. Whilst there is a likelyhood that there is a connection between the Lorings of Chalgrave and Robert of Lorraine, also known as Robert of Hereford, a bishop of that see in 1079, erroneously reported in the Loring Genealogy on the first page of the introduction as 1279, no such connection has been established. Robert of Lorraine came to England with William the Bastard aka William the Conqueror.
The pedigree of Sir Neal Loring of Chalgrave may be found on pages 12, 13 and 14 of the Visitations of Befordshire, 1566-1634. No other Lorings are found in that Visitation and it can be safely assumed that the right to bear the arms of Sir Neal Loring does not devolved upon the Lorings of Axminster as Sir Neal had no male issue of the flesh. The Visitations of Devon similarly show no Lorings other than one un-named whose widow married Randal of Kentisbury.
Only Admiral Sir John Wentworth Loring holds a grant of arms in the period 1687 to 1898. The Lorings of America, and their English counterparts and descendants (the family returned) have no legal right to carry the arms of Sir Nele or Sir Petrus Loring. Despite this, as it states in the Loring Genalogy That the Lorings of New England were descendants of the race of Bedfordshire is very probable for the reason that the arms of Sir Nele Loryng have been hung up in their dwellings from the time of their ancestor of Hingham to the present period."[2] (Book page - Introduction xiii) This does not however amount to a grant of arms. Full details of Thomas Loring start on page 37.

Research Notes

No historical evidence exists for the birth of Thomas. The determination of his approximate date of birth is explained in Early Lorings - Resolving some problems with Loring profiles.

Sources

  1. The Great Migration Begins ...Vol 4 page 340 by subscription at: https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/2496/42521_b158315-00447?pid=1275
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 The Loring Genealogy online. By Charles Henry Pope assisted by Catherine Peabody Loring; Murray and Emery Company, Cambridge, Massachusetts. 1917. Book Page in next to reference link. ISBN 9781144866219
  3. "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NBSP-8B1 : accessed 31 March 2016), Thomas Loring, 27 Mar 1625; citing , reference ; FHL microfilm 916,807.
  4. "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J79J-D9P : accessed 31 March 2016), Thomas Loring, 05 Mar 1626; citing AXMINSTER,DEVON,ENGLAND, reference ; FHL microfilm 916,807.
  5. "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N5Q3-Y45 : accessed 31 March 2016), John Loring, 27 Dec 1629; citing AXMINSTER,DEVON,ENGLAND, reference ; FHL microfilm 916,807.
  6. Find A Grave: Memorial #37393769 retrieved 8/29/18 Memorial only

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parents detached with appropriate notations. PPP in place.
What is the source for the attached parents, please? They are not named in the narrative.
posted by Jillaine Smith
From the research notes on the profile of his supposed father Anthony (or William) Loring, it seems the parents are unsupported guess work. It also says "The only marriage recorded in on-line records is for William Loring in 1614 who we have established married Bridget Sanders and who cannot be the parents of Deacon Thomas Loring."
posted by Joe Cochoit
There is no evidence for the attached parents at all and my own research suggests these to be unlikely candidates. I created those research notes on the putative father by the way. I have today flagged them both as uncertain.
Should parents be detached with disputed origins section, since they are "guess work" (Joe) and "no evidence" (David) ?
Hi Cheryl. Personally I would suggest yes however as I am not a member of the Project, nor a manager of the profile, I do not think it is my place to make that decision.
Add PGM, Thomas Loring is profiled in The Great Migration Begins...Vol 4 page 340.
posted by Beryl Meehan
PGM?
posted by Dana Burns
Loring-984 and Loring-5 appear to represent the same person because: The date of birth on Loring-984 is completely wrong and these are not his parents (William and Bridget). William and Bridget are real but see http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Early_Lorings for an explanation. Before merging the parents of Loring-984 should be removed and the date corrected to 1600
Loring-325 and Loring-5 appear to represent the same person because: Same name, same wife
posted by Bob Tonsmeire
Hi Page,

A merge of Loring-306 and Loring-5 was proposed 6 weeks ago. Can it be approved or is there a problem? If you missed it, you'll find it on the bottom left of the profile page. Thanks, Vic

posted by Vic Watt