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Arnulf (Luitpolding) von Bayern (abt. 886 - 937)

Arnulf (Arnulf I) "Duke of Bavaria, the Bad" von Bayern formerly Luitpolding aka of Bavaria
Born about in Schwaben, Chemnitzer Land, Sachsen, Germanymap
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Husband of — married 0910 [location unknown]
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Died at about age 51 in Regensberg, Oberpfalz, Bavariamap
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Biography

Preceded by
Luitpold
Duke of Bavaria
907–937
Succeeded by
Eberhard

Arnulf "der Schlimme (the bad)," Duke of Bavaria[1]

Arnulf, Duke of Bavaria
Pfalzgraf von Bayern
House: Luitpolding dynasty
d. 14 Jul 937 Regensburg
bur. St Emmeram's Abbey

Parents

Father: Luitpold, Markgraf in Bavaria

Mother: Unknown[1]

ALT: "Arnulf was the son of Margrave Luitpold of Bavaria and Cunigunda, daughter of Berthold I, the count palatine of Swabia. After the death of his father at the Battle of Brezalauspurc in 907, he followed him as ruler of the Bavarian estates around Regensburg."

Marriage

m. UNKNOWN[2]

The idea that, "Arnulf married Judith of Friuli, daughter of Eberhard of Friuli and Gisela of Verona," doesn't stack up because the dates are off. "Judith of Friuli died ca. 881. This would have made a marriage between a boy (or at least young) Arnulf and an elder Judith, which was supposed to have produced several children 23 years or so after her death." Wikipedia suggests, he, "married Judith of Sulichgau (b.c. 888), daughter of Eberhard of Sulichgau," but Cawley (2006), although still skeptical about dates ... doesn't rule out the possibility that Arulf may have married another uknown daughter of Ebarhard di Friuli and Gisela.
  • "Arnulf's daughter Judith married Henry I of Bavaria, brother of OttoI, Holy Roman Emperor."[3].

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 According to a charter, he referred himself as " Arnulf, Duke of Bavaria" (Cawley, 2006, citing: Reindel, K. (1953) Die bayerischen Liupoldinger 893-989 (Munich), p. 77, charter no. 48, cited in Reuter (1991), p. 130. MedLands
  2. Wegener (1965/7), p. 72, and ES I 9. She is not mentioned in ES II 188A or Rösch, S. (1977) Caroli Magni Progenies (Verlag Degener & Co, Neustadt an der Aisch). MedLands.
    "Wegener speculates she was an unknown daughter of Eberhard, Duke of the March of Friulia [Unruochingi] ... based on names "Eberhard and Judith", used for Arnulf's children. This daughter is, however, not listed among the children Eberhard set out in the cartulary of Cysoing abbey, although she may be one of the unnamed daughters. From a chronological point of view, it is unlikely that the wife of Arnulf Duke of Bavaria was the daughter of Duke Eberhard. The latter's children must have been born between 840 - 860, whereas Duke Arnulf's children were probably born between 905 - 920, suggesting their mother was born in 880/90".
  3. incorporates text from public-domain Catholic Encyclopedia, 1913.




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It seems implausible that he, born 886, would/could have married Agnes Arpadhazi, who was born abt 959?

Is there another Agnes? Are those dates that far off?

None of the children seem to have Agnes as mother, maybe Agnes is just misplaced here?

posted by John Mueller
edited by John Mueller
I removed Agnes ... she must've been attached in error at some point. Thanks so much for pointing that out John!
posted by Traci Thiessen
A first marriage to an Agnes from Hungary is legendary at best, his (second?) marriage to Judith, possibly daughter of Eberhard von Sülichgau, seems to be the consensus in the newer literature. (See bibliography in Reindel, Kurt, "Arnulf" in: Neue Deutsche Biographie 1 (1953), S. 396 f. [Online-Version]; URL: https://www.deutsche-biographie.de/pnd118504363.html#ndbcontent.)

BTW, please don't disregard the umlauts in German names, they are not trivial.

posted by Helmut Jungschaffer
Thanks. Agree, umlauts not trivial - I are one, originally Müller, back in the day, now Mueller. 😀
posted by John Mueller
Children need attention (3 sons named Berthold I)
posted by Traci Thiessen
Unfortunately, I don't know you Jacky. Can you tell me why you want to be co-manager and what changes you intend to make?
posted by Scott Wynter
Please add [email address removed] as comanager of this profile. Thank You Jacky
posted by Jacqueline Clark

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