Catharine Margaretha Mann (1717)

Born 2 May 1717 in Siegelsbach, Siegelsbach, Heilbronn, Baden-Württemberg, Germany

Wife of Johann Stephan Mann — married 26 Jan 1740 in Siegelsbach, Baden, Germany

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Rejected Match

One of the lamentable results of the information age and the internet is that there is too much information. Another result is that much of it is unreliable. How this relates to genealogy specifically is the increasing use of "copy and paste" by casual tree builders who have no regard for the genealogical proof standard and actually do not know such a thing exists. Then they wonder why their tree is full of contradictory and confusing information that is impossible to reconcile. In the early era of computers there was a mantra, "garbage in, garbage out." Take heed lazy tree copiers. What frequently happens in the 18th century, and is the case for two women named Catherine, one with no known beginning and one with no known ending, is that the two halves get stuck together for no other reason than they "fit.". The Catherine on this profile has no known death date or place. What likely happened to her is anybody's guess, but the most reasonable explanation is that her records were lost because of the death of her husband and her father in the same year. At her age, she may not have married again and may have lived with a relative and died in Germany. There are other less likely possibilities, but a concurrent marriage in America is not one of them. The sourced information provided here on this profile, and also on her FamilySearch profile, should make it obvious that this Catherine and Catherine Cain (formerly Unknown), who has no known beginning, are not the same person and this Catherine, who married in 1740 in Germany could not have also married Nicholas Cain in 1736 in Pennsylvania. Another probable exacerbating circumstance is that the husband of Catherine Unknown, Nicholas Cain, has been confused and combined with at least two other men with similar names. (This note written by [[Lake-1774 | Steven Lake on 20Apr2019.)

Biography

Name

Catherina Margaretha Mann ^[1]

Margaretha Catharina Mann (Monn). ^[2]

Catrin Mann. ^[3]

Catherine Mann (Monn). ^[4]

Birth

2 May 1717 in Siegelsbach, Siegelsbach, Heilbronn, Baden-Württemberg, Germany.^[5]

about 1705 Hirschlanden, Germany. ^[6]

1713^[7]

Abt. 1717. Germany^[8]

Marriage

To Johann Stephan Mann on 26 January 1740 at Evangelisch, Huffenhardt, Mosbach, Baden, Germany^[9]

Marriage 26 Jan 1740 in Siegelsbach. Johann Stephan Mann (son of Adam Mann) with Catharina Margareta (daughter of innkeeper "Lammwürth" and smith Johann Stephan Mann).^[10]

Husband @P445@. Wife Margaretha Catharina Mann Monn. Marriage 17 Août 1733. Mantes-la-Jolie, Yvelines, Paroisse Saint Pierre des Faubourgs, France.

Husband @P442@. Wife Margaretha Catharina Mann Monn. Marriage 1736^[11]

Husband Nicholas ' Kain' Cain. Wife Catherine Mann Monn. Marriage 1736^[12] There is no primary source for this marriage, only un-sourced trees. There are primary sources for Nicholas Cain being married to a Catherine Unknown. There are also primary sources for the marriage of Catherina Margaretha Mann and Johann Stephan Mann. Those sources rule out the possibility and the truth of Nicholas Cain being married to Catherina Margaretha Mann. Note by Steven Lake 22AUG2017.

Sources

1. ↑ FamilySearch.org, [1], Germany Marriages.
2. ↑ Source: #S1658357117 Source number: 12.000; Source type: Electronic Database; Number of Pages: 1; Submitter Code: LAC
3. ↑ Source: #S1658408793
4. ↑ Source: #S1658357117 Source number: 12.000; Source type: Electronic Database; Number of Pages: 1; Submitter Code: LAC
5. ↑ FamilySearch.org, [2], Germany Marriages.
6. ↑ Source: #S1658357117 Source number: 12.000; Source type: Electronic Database; Number of Pages: 1; Submitter Code: LAC
7. ↑ Source: #S1658408793
8. ↑ Source: #S1658357117 Source number: 12.000; Source type: Electronic Database; Number of Pages: 1; Submitter Code: LAC
9. ↑ FamilySearch.org, [3], Germany Marriages.
10. ↑ Church book Siegelsbach, Baden: Landeskirchliches Archiv Karlsruhe > Hüffenhardt > Mischbuch 1683 - 1764 Archion
11. ↑ Source: #S1658357117 Source number: 12.000; Source type: Electronic Database; Number of Pages: 1; Submitter Code: LAC
12. ↑ Source: #S1658357117 Source number: 12.000; Source type: Electronic Database; Number of Pages: 1; Submitter Code: LAC

• Catharina Margareta Mann, "Germany Marriages, 1558-1929"

"Deutschland Heiraten, 1558-1929," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VCYN-F9C : 26 December 2014), Johann Stephan Mann and Catharina Margareta Mann, 26 Jan 1740; citing Evangelisch, Huffenhardt, Mosbach, Baden; FHL microfilm 1,189,311.

• Source: S1658353266 Repository: #R1650475949 Ancestry Family Trees Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members. Ancestry Family Tree http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=108638159&pid=426

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• Source: S1658353266 Repository: #R1650475949 Ancestry Family Trees Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members. Ancestry Family Tree http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=108638159&pid=441

• Repository: R1650475949 Ancestry.com

• Source: S1658357117 Repository: #R1650475949 U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 Yates Publishing Publication: Ancestry.com Operations Inc.