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Elizabeth (Norton) Proctor (abt. 1621 - aft. 1675)

Elizabeth Proctor formerly Norton aka Marriott, Bishop [uncertain]
Born about in Jamestown, James City, Colony of Virginiamap [uncertain]
Daughter of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Wife of — married about 10 Jun 1633 in Virginia, British Colonial Americamap
Wife of — married after 1661 [location unknown]
Wife of — married after 1665 in Surry, VA, British Colonymap
Descendants descendants
Died after after about age 54 in Surry, Colony of Virginiamap
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Biography

Elizabeth (Marriott) Proctor was possibly born about 1621 in Jamestown, James City, Colony of Virginia. She was the widow of John Bishop, Major William Marriott, and married George Proctor after these marriages. She was still living as of 1675.

Marriages

Marriage to John Bishop: Abt. 1638.

Marriage to William Marriott (~1615 - <1672) in Nov 1660.

Marriage to George Proctor Jul 1672[1]

Court Proceedings

4 Sep 1672: Court proceedings show that the wife of George Proctor was formerly the wife of Major William Marriott, and before that the wife of John Bishop. Francis Mason was the guardian of John Bishop, Orphan. [2]

Court Case Against George Proctor in 1675 May 1675

From Surry Co., VA Records, FHC Film #0034099 (p78 & 79)

4 May 1675 - Thomas High gave a deposition in which he states he is 28 years old or thereabouts. "Examined and Sworn Saith:

That being at the house of Mr. Geo Proctor ye first March last enquiring for Lt. Pittman and going in to light my pipe Mrs. Proctor told me he was at Mr. Summers, as ye deponent was going downe, Mrs. Proctor said she would go with me, and did soe, and when I came there as I was - discoursing with the said Pittman, Mr. Proctor as he was there sitting by the fire side asked his wife if she would goe home, who answered yes if he pleased, and when they were gone the Company that was theire went to the said Mr. Proctors, as also ye depont. and Lt. Pittman discoursing - about our business and the rest of the Company going in before us, ye depont. and said Pittman stayed at the gate some short time, and hearing of a great noyse within ye depont. asked Lt. Pittman whate was the matter, who answered he could not tell, and as we were therein talking the said Pittman asked ye depont. if he would not give him halfe a pinte who told him noe, then the said Pittman said I will Joyne with you, ye depont. answered he did not care if the did Joyne with him, we the Depont. and the said Pittman, went into the said Mr. Proctors house and when we did and Proctor was calling his wife - Damd wh(---), and bitching wh(---) and Such Kind of languige, and then ye depot. asked the said Proctor if he would lett him have a half pint of drink he said he would pay him for it, but the said Proctor said Noe, but he would give me halfe a pinte, ye depont. answered he did not desire any upon - guift, but Lt. Pittman said he would accept it if he pleased, where upon the said Mr. Proctor called for somebody to draw it, and his wife rose up to give the fellow the keys which came to draw the drink, but Mr. Proctor called her back by the name of wh(---), and said she should not Stir, whereupon She went and satt downe againe in a chair by the fire, but the fellow went and brought half a pinte, and when it was out ye depont. asked if he would lett him have halfe a pinte, he replyed yes, it was also brought and ye depont. paid mony for, during the time his drink was drinking the said Proctor was abusing his wife by calling her wh(---) and Severall other bad languige - given to her, and ye depont. asked the said Proctor and desired him to be quiet and not use such terrible words which he Still continued doing, where upon ye depont. asked the said Proctor whose wh(---) she was, who replied she was ye deponts. for aught he knew, and Several others, but not naming anybody, ye depont. replyed he had Knowne her twenty years yet ye never know anyone give her Such a report, the said Procter replied she might be a wh(---) for all _____, ye depont. answered he could not tell wheather she was or noe, soe the said Proctor - went from his Company into his Chamber pretending he would goe to sleep, leaving his Wife Sitting by the fire in a chair. The Company at the table talking and laughing, ye said Proctor came out againe from the room and calling his Wife wh(---) and bitch and such kind of terms, and Saying thee was among her Rouges, ye nor any of the Company not giving him one word, then he went into his rooms againe, after he was gone Some of the Company drank to her, who took the cup and drank to Some of the Company, and immediately the said Proctor came running out calling her wh(---), and saying now she was with her delight, with that he pulled her and halted her and pushed her and Swore he would make her doe as he would have her do. She answered anything that he would have her doe, she would doe provided he would be quiett, he replied he would make her, she asked him whet he would have her doe, wheather she should come and Sitt by him or wheather he would goe to sleepe, he replyed he would goe to sleepe soe they both went into the other room, and she Sat by him he pretending he would go to sleepe, but immediately as we Sat at the table, we heard her Cry out Murder, thereupon the Company said one to another doe you goe in, but none of these did, whereupon ye depont. went in, and asked Proctor what was the Matter, he said not was that to me, ye depont. asked him, if he were minded to doe any Murder, he said what was it to me, I told him theire Should be noe Murder done as long as ye depont. was in the house if he could help it, during this discourse Capt. Swann came in, and ye depont. asked Capt Swann to go into the roome to him, whereupon Capt. Swann went in asked what was the matter, but what answer the said Proctor made ye depont. know not, Soe Capt. Swann and the said Proctor went toward Mr. Summers, leaving Mrs. Proctor Crying upon the bed, and further ye depont. saith not.

Signed Tho (mark) High - Sworn before Col. Tho:Swann - Lt. Col. Geo:Jordan and Maj. Wm 1675 -Browne 4 May 1675 ____William Edwards, Clerk, May 5 1675, W. E. Clk

Tho: Pittman, Sr, age 60 or thereabouts, also gave a deposition in which he stated..."being at the house of Mr. Geo. Proctor upon the 1st day of March about 8 o'clock in the morning...Mr Proctor was drinking of burnt sack* and did finde that Mr. Proctor had drank to much...he also stated that Mr. Proctor and his wife were good friends but within two or three hours of drinking he ralled at his wife...Mr. Thompson and Tho:High did ______ her away, after she put on her coat...and I left and went away, but before I went Mr. Geo. Proctor went and fetched his Sword, then told his wife..." (p76)

Isabell Forbus, age 50 years or thereabouts, gave a deposition also in which she said she had "met Col. Swann and Mr. Proctor as she was walking and that...Mr Proctor asked her to speak to his wife and she said she would. She arrived at their home and shortly after Mr. Proctor came in then "went into another roome and fetched his Sword removing toward his wife ye depont went and stood between them...one Tho:High came in an delivered Mr Proctor to be ruled by his friends and be quiett, and Mr Proctor answered he had to many such friends as he was..." The depositions above seem to be after Geo. Proctor had gone with Capt. Swann and then come back to his home (FHC film # 0034099, p76)

Capt. Robt Spensor and Benja Thompson also made statements. (Same film # as above, p74/5)

Research Notes

  • 05/15/2020 - It is not believed that Elizabeth's maiden name was Burgess. That name has been removed. The search for her correct maiden name continues.
  • 02/25/2022 - The last name of Norton has been suggested. There was a gentleman, Thomas Norton, listed as a passenger on the second supply ship of Fall, 1608. There are researchers who believe this to be Elizabeth's father [3].
  • 02/26/2022 - Need sources for marriages to Bishop and Marriott. The sources I found for a Norton/Marriott marriage are in the wrong timeframe.
  • 02/27/2022 - Elizabeth Proctor, widow of Ambrose Proctor, of Isle of Wight County would not be the same Elizabeth Proctor who was married to George, still living as of 1675 in Surry County.

Sources

  1. Surry County, Virginia Marriage Records.
  2. From Family Archive Viewer, CD174, Virginia Vital Records #1, 1600-1800's, Virginia Land Records, Abstracts of Virginia Land Patents. P. 608
  3. [1]

Acknowledgment

WikiTree profile Marriott-77 created through the import of GedTem12:18.ged on Dec 19, 2011 by Jack Templeton.

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I don't think this is same person.

"A probate record (will) from 9 Jan 1672 records Ambrose Proctor (possible middle name?) appointing his relict, Elizabeth, as his Executrix.[3]

Name: Elizabeth, Widow Proctor Date: 9 Jan 1672 Location: Isle of Wight County, Virginia Book: 2-33 Prove Date: 4 Feb 1672. "

posted by Randall Merriott
I had wondered about that as well, Randall. I realized that I was looking at the wrong Proctor when I went back to see what I had done.

Thanks for updating Elizabeth's profile! It's such a pleasure to work with you!

posted by Pamela (McCaleb) Parker
edited by Pamela (McCaleb) Parker
Glad I was able to help! I tried to say simply "glad to help", but WikiTree informs me that my "comment must be at least 30 characters long". So there you go...
posted by Randall Merriott
Gayle - I found a source that indicates that a Thomas Norton arrived in Jamestown in 1608. Researchers point to him as being Elizabeth's father. I have updated my profile on Elizabeth and have approved the merge on my end. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks! Pam
posted on Burgess-12768 (merged) by Pamela (McCaleb) Parker
Gayle, if sources cannot be found confirming that Elizabeth is a Norton, I'll be changing my shared profile of her to "Unknown". If you have any questions about merging our profiles, please let me know. I am happy to discuss with you. Thanks!
posted on Burgess-12768 (merged) by Pamela (McCaleb) Parker
Burgess-12768 and Marriott-77 appear to represent the same person because: We have all discussed why Burgess isn't the correct name but I don't believe she was necessarily a separate person either...at least not in this case as she is attache to another new Proctor profile awaiting another merge. I know it can be difficult with LNAB situations but this could be a great time to look at either Norton or Unknown with the three married surnames afterwards, right? Cheers! Becky Elizabeth
posted on Burgess-12768 (merged) by Becky Simmons
Burgess-12768 and Marriott-77 appear to represent the same person because: We have all discussed why Burgess isn't the correct name but I don't believe she was necessarily a separate person either...at least not in this case as she is attache to another new Proctor profile awaiting another merge. I know it can be difficult with LNAB situations but this could be a great time to look at either Norton or Unknown with the three married surnames afterwards, right? Cheers! Becky Elizabeth
posted on Marriott-77 (merged) by Becky Simmons
edited by Becky Simmons
If there are no sources to prove that Elizabeth's maiden name is Norton, I'll change her last name to "Unknown", as I unfortunately have been unable to prove a definitive last name for her. Cheers! Pam
posted on Marriott-77 (merged) by Pamela (McCaleb) Parker
I found a source for a Thomas Norton who arrived in Jamestown in 1608. Other researchers point to him as Elizabeth's father. I have updated her profile to include the Norton name and will approve the merge on my end. Thank you Becky!
This woman is not the mother of these Proctors, so I will once again detach them. George Proctor was probably at least her third husband and these children were all born long before this marriage.
posted by Randall Merriott
Not an actual person...she should be merged with Elizabeth Bishop, Proctor but last name when born was Norton...

The reason people attach the name 'BURGESS' to Elizabeth Bishop Marriott Proctor's name is because her husband, William Marriott, was an official Burgess in the House of Burgesses [a Councilman] and thus the reason for the error in Elizabeth's name.

posted on Burgess-12768 (merged) by Becky Simmons
Elizabeth's maiden name was Norton, married three times: 1st Bishop, 2nd Marriott, 3rd George Proctor

About Burgess:

"The reason people attach the name 'BURGESS' to Elizabeth Bishop Marriott Proctor's name is because her husband, William Marriott, was an official Burgess in the House of Burgesses [a Councilman] and thus the reason for the error in Elizabeth's name."

posted on Marriott-77 (merged) by Becky Simmons
edited by Becky Simmons
Do you by chance have sources that prove Elizabeth's maiden name is Norton? I was unable to find definitive proof and noted it above in May 2020.
posted on Marriott-77 (merged) by Pamela (McCaleb) Parker
OK, I removed several Proctor children from her profile. George may be the father of two of them, but she is not their mother since she and George were married long after the birth of these children. Also there was one apparently born in England about the same time as their marriage. Probably just some more unsourced "wishful thinking". Need to have sources, folks, or this is all just a fantasy.
posted on Marriott-77 (merged) by Randall Merriott
edited by Randall Merriott
I think I noted that the FindaGrave reference was unsourced, but thank you for removing both the reference and my comment about it. I removed the mentions regarding Elizabeth Burgess in sources - I reviewed each of those records and discovered that they definitely belonged to a different individual. Thank you also for removing the children. I note that there is another Wikitreer listed as a profile manager for Elizabeth Proctor. Maybe Ms. Curtis and I can work together to move this poor lady's profile forward in the future. Thanks again for your assistance Randall. Your work is much appreciated!
posted on Marriott-77 (merged) by Pamela (McCaleb) Parker
Thanks, I appreciate your comments. There is an interesting narrative on husband George's page. I don't know the whole story, but it sounds like her husband was an abusive alcoholic!
posted on Marriott-77 (merged) by Randall Merriott
I'll go over there and read it - thanks!!
posted on Marriott-77 (merged) by Pamela (McCaleb) Parker
She was one of the people that I adopted in 2019. I haven't had a chance to do research on her. Glad you've taken a look at her file Randall!
posted on Burgess-5257 (merged) by Pamela (McCaleb) Parker
Burgess-5257 and Marriott-77 appear to represent the same person because: These are both Elizabeth _______________________. She was married to Major William Marriott and after he died, she married George Proctor. She is not the daughter of Alice Warren. In fact, she was about 20 years older, so Alice Warren needs to be removed as her mother.

Her maiden name is unknown. The notion that it was "Burgess" came from the following:

"George Proctor later became a Justice of the county, and had married the widow of Major William Marriott, a former Burgess."

Source: Colonial Surry, by John Bennett Boddie, p. 137

Note that Major William was a former Burgess (a member of the legislature) and not his wife.

This is so very sad! We need to fix this. I don't know what the dear lady's maiden name should be, but we can leave it at Marriott for now or we can make it unknown. Please help.

posted on Marriott-77 (merged) by Randall Merriott
Sorry, you cannot remove this existing person as a family member because their profile is Project-Protected. If their parents need to be changed, post in G2G. Follow the link in the Collaboration section of the profile and add the project tag.
posted on Marriott-77 (merged) by Cynthia (Hicks) Curtis
Tried to remove Alice Warren as the mother of Elizabeth Marriott Proctor (Marriott-77). Elizabeth Marriott Proctor was 20 years older than Alice and definitely not the daughter of Matthias and Alice. Not sure what her maiden name was, but she was the widow of Major William Marriott who married George Proctor. (Source: Colonial Surry, by John Bennett Boddie, p. 137) Since I am not able to fix this, would one of you project leaders do so, please?
posted on Marriott-77 (merged) by Randall Merriott
Replied on G2G
posted on Marriott-77 (merged) by Randall Merriott
No-- it will not permit the removal

"Sorry, you cannot remove this existing person as a family member because their profile is Project-Protected. If their parents need to be changed, post in G2G. Follow the link in the Collaboration section of the profile and add the project tag."

posted on Marriott-77 (merged) by Cynthia (Hicks) Curtis
Thanks for trying to do this. I will follow your suggestion.
posted on Marriott-77 (merged) by Randall Merriott
The birth date is quite obviously wrong, being 20 years before her parents were born! Please correct. Also married some 15 years or so after she died. Virginia Project needs to look at this profile. Probably should be deleted.
posted on Marriott-77 (merged) by Dan Sparkman
I think the birth date may possibly be correct, but the relationship is definitely wrong. She is not the daughter of Matthias Marriott and Alice Warren.
posted on Marriott-77 (merged) by Randall Merriott
posted on Burgess-5257 (merged) by Fred Sheffield Jr.
Elizabeth Proctor buried in Hull, York, England can not possibly be Elizabeth Proctor who was born in 1621 in Virginia. That was more likely the Elizabeth who married a different George Proctor at Kingston upon Hill in 1750.

"England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N2JQ-5JW : 10 February 2018), George Proctor and Elizabeth, 09 Dec 1750; citing Holy Trinity,Kingston Upon Hull,York,England, reference , index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 990,827.

posted on Burgess-5257 (merged) by Fred Sheffield Jr.
Yes, just because we have a couple with the same names doesn't mean they are the same people. George, Elizabeth, Proctor. None of these names are unusual. You're right, we should always be looking at the context.
posted on Burgess-5257 (merged) by Randall Merriott
Link for that comment is http://www.houseofproctor.org/genealogy/getperson.php?personID=I2670&tree=hop

In any case, it would explain the date inconsistencies.

posted on Marriott-77 (merged) by Greg Cavalli
From the House of Proctor website:

"I have a correction for you as to Elizabeth's birth and death- She was born as you say 1621 in Jamestown Colony,VA, and she died on Jan 9, 1672; Southwark Parish, Surrey, Virginia. Also, there is a discrepancy about her parents. The Matthius Marriott and Alice Warren listed are actually her son and daughter-in-law by William Marriot (m.1642) That she married in 1642, before George. Three or four sites say her father is Thomas Burgess and she was the spouse of Ezra Perry. I am still looking into the parents and will let you know when I find anything more accurate. There is a lot different info on her on the web that does not jive. Thanks for your hard work on this site.

Lenna Skelton"

posted on Marriott-77 (merged) by Greg Cavalli
It's not possible for her to be the mother of Matthias Marriott. She married Major William after the death of Susannah Swann and this was many years after the birth of Matthias.
posted on Marriott-77 (merged) by Randall Merriott
I not only agree with Trudy Roach, but this Elizabeth Warren (the daughter of Mathias Marriot and his wife Alice Warren Marriot, married a Mizelle. This entire profile needs to be redone to reflect the truth. You can't marry after you die.
posted on Marriott-77 (merged) by Dan Sparkman
Elizabeth's birth date pre-dates her parents. Matthias was born in 1642, Alice 1645. May be a birth date problem with George Proctor also. Thanks Trudy.
posted on Marriott-77 (merged) by Anonymous Roach
Got her removed as daughter of Matthias and Alice.
posted on Marriott-77 (merged) by Randall Merriott

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