John Martin V (bef. 1619 - 1687)

Born before 26 Feb 1619 in Plymouth, Devon, England [uncertain]

Ancestors

Husband of Esther (Roberts) Martin — married about 1645 in Dover, New Hampshire

Descendants

Died 5 Jul 1687 after age 68 in Piscataway, Middlesex, New Jersey

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Disputed Parents

The following discussion was posted on this message board:

Disputed Parents of John Martin

"The parentage of John Martin has NOT been ascertained. While the published "ancestries" do not rival Marvin's Van Horn, or the fradulent Dutch publication on Schenck, there are some elaborate, but totally undocumented pedigrees for the Martin family. Once in print these suppositions and speculations get republished and repeated, and find their way into the IGI and various family group sheets.

One of these was a "Genealogy of the Martin Family" by Charles William Francis, published in 1918, which suggested that John was a s/o an Isaac Martin, said to have been an early inhabitant of Rehoboth. There is, however, nothing to connect this John Martin with any family of Rehoboth, or with any other ancestors, for that matter. That relationship is discredited and disregarded.

Louise Martin Mohler at one time subscribed to conclusions reached by one Betty Jane Cunningham Hamner, whose charts Louise reproduced in her "The Martin Family of America, Descendants of John Martin & Esther Roberts" (1983, with subsequent revisions). That connected John with a Richard Martin of Poulehurst, under a chart entitled "The Visitation of the County of Devon." It shows the original Richard with a descendant, Capt. John Martin of Plymouth, aet. 70, 1620, "who went round about the world with Sir Frances Drake ao 1577." The chart shows that Capt. with two sons: Francis who m. 1 1606, Joan Draper, and m. 2 1619, Prudence/ Priscilla, d/o Edward Decon "Chris. 1584 Casco, Maine." The second son was a John Martin m. Suzan d/o Engarman Hemertin (m. 22 July 1619). There are three children shown on the chart for that second son, John and Suzan (Hemertin) Martin: (1) Mary Martin aet. 8; (2) John Martin aet. 2 1620; (3) Suzan Martin aet. 4. There then follows in brackets, the following: [According to Trelawny Papers: "JOHN MARTIN was sent out in 1637 to Maine with a note from ROBERT TRELAWNY of Plymouth to his Uncle FRANCIS MARTIN of Casco, Maine (New Hampshire) a decayed Gentlemen in financial trouble."] Mohler's more recent revisions no longer subscribe to this, and she now states that John Martin's ancestry is not known.

Although it is not the "final word" there is the respected "Genealogical Dictionary of Maine and New Hampshire", by Sybil Noyes, Charles Thornton Libby and Walter Goodwin Davis, originally published 1928-1939, and now in reprints by Genealogical Pub. Co of Baltimore (1991). The John Martin who was in Dover, and m. Hester (Esther) Roberts, and then moved with his family to Piscataway, NJ. is found on page 463 as "7 John".. He is one of four John Martins given separate numbered paragraphs. The Francis Martin (referred to in Ms. Hamner's chart as "Uncle Francis Martin") is in a separate paragraph on page 462, with no connection made with (7) John. One of the features of the Libby-Noyes-Davis work is in its cross-referencing, but there is none here. It seems clear that they did not consider any relationship nor connection of (7) John (who removed to Piscataway, NJ.) with Francis or the Devon Martin/Martyn family. While Ms. Hamner and Mrs. Mohler at least attempt to tie John to a family in the same general geographical area, as contrasted with Charles William Francis' looking to Rehoboth and Plymouth, there seems to be no documentation or real justification for the conclusions in either case."

NOTE (by Kenneth Kinman): The following information seems to indicate that he was indeed the John Martin V of Plymouth, Devonshire. He immigrated to New England at the age 18, for he is said to have been sent to Maine in 1637 with a note to this Uncle Francis Martin from Robert Trelawney of Plymouth (see Trelawny Papers, page 312). The Trelawney Papers contain a letter from John Winter to Robert Trelawney (dated 08 June 1642) which says: "Also herin goes inclosed a bill uppon Mr. John Martin for his unkell ffrancis Martin." Francis Martin was called a "decayed Gentleman in financial trouble." He and his children were unused to working and had difficulties providing for themselves, especially on the frontier where hard work was a necessity for survival. His daughter Mary would be tried and executed in 1646 for killing her infant. Robert Trelawney mentioned above is probably a son or nephew of Mrs. Margaret Trelawney who seems to have been the second wife of John Martin IV. This makes Margaret Trelawney sister-in-law to Francis Martin and thus would explain why Robert Trelawney was willing to provide support to this poor man (who apparently went, to Casco, Maine, because the Trelawneys owned it). Our John Martin was much younger and more resourceful than his uncle, and he obvously liked what he saw in New England and settled in New Hampshire. He presumably was working for the Trelawney family (his step-mother's family) in some way when he first went to New England, and probably travelled back and forth several times in the early years (definitely returned to England presumably on the ship "Hercules", in June 1642, as is related in the letter mentioned above).

Biography

John MARTIN was baptized on 26 February 1618/19, Plymouth, Devonshire, England, the 2-year-old son of John Martin (Martin-40321) and Suzan Hemertin/Hemerkyn (Hemertin-1) who appear in the Visitation of Devonshire of 1620 (see weblink to Visitation of Devonshire below). He would have therefore been (according to the Trelawney Papers) the nephew John Martin who carried a bill to Francis Martin (Martin-4463) in 1642, then resident in the Maine colony (see weblink to Trelawney Papers below).

He married Esther ROBERTS circa 1645 in Dover, New Hampshire. Esther was born circa 1625 in Dover, New Hampshire. Esther was the daughter of Thomas ROBERTS and Rebecca HILTON. Esther died December 12, 1687 in Piscataway, Middlesex County, New Jersey at 62 years of age.

A genealogy of the family of Thomas Roberts of New Hampshire describes her as "Hester, wife of John Martin, and living in Jersey in 1673". Her given name appears in the Piscataway Town Records as Esther, Hester, and frequently as Easter. Three granddaughters, apparently named for her, appear in birth and death entries in the town records with their names as Esther or Easter....

The will of Easter (Esther) Martin of Piscataway, dated 9 November 1687 and proved 20 December 1687 names children John, Joseph, Thomas Martin, Mary Hull, Martha Langstaff, Lidia Smalley. and Benjamin Martin; and grandchildren Mary and Hope Hull (children of Hopewell Hull) as heirs to land in Piscataway Township and personal property. Son Benjamin Martin is named executor.

He [John Martin] was a landholder in 1648, a member of a Grand Jury in 1654, and in 1666 a Freeman of Dover, New Hampshire. With Charles Gilman, Hugh Dunn, and Hopewell Hull, he applied for and received, 18 December 1666, the Piscataway Land Grant.

In "Genealogical Notes of the Sutton Family of New Jersey", Edward F. H. Sutton states that he is the father of Patience by his second wife Dorothy. Piscataway Town Records list his death five months before the death of his widow, Esther, whom he married in New Hampshire in 1646 making a second marriage impossible. Approximately ten years before he died, his son John married Dorothy Smith and they are likely the parents of Patience who married Daniel Sutton in 1704.

John Martin, Senr. died 5 July 1687 at Piscataway, Middlesex County, New Jersey.^[1]

The will of John Martin, yeoman, of Piscataway dated 17 March 1687 and proved 1687 names wife Easter heiress and executrix of real and personal estate with sons John and Benjamin Martin, Hopefull Hull, and John Langstaff as overseers.^[2]

Sources

1. ↑ Louis L. Drake, "Piscataway, New Jersey, marriage and death records: From the town register, 1688 to 1805", Proceedings of the New Jersey Historical Society, new ser. vol. 4 (Jan-Oct 1919), 42; [digital image] archive.org [link]. Data: Martin, John, Senr., July 5, 1687.
2. ↑ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~colonialfamiliestonewjersey/martin/d0/i0000718.htm John Martin and Descendants

• "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JM53-SX6 : 30 December 2014, John Martayne, 26 Feb 1619); citing SAINT ANDREW,PLYMOUTH,DEVON,ENGLAND, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 0896648 IT 2.

• Trelawney Papers": https://archive.org/stream/trelawnypapers00trelgoog#page/n366/mode/2up

• Visitation of Devonshire (showing John Martin at age 2): https://books.google.com/books?id=5CnTAAAAMAAJ&lpg=PA394&ots=0m18vMgL1Q&dq=Poulehurst%20Kent&pg=PA180#v=onepage&q&f=true Also at Ancestry through this weblink: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/6618/images/UKI-Devon-1620-DEVON0192?ssrc=&backlabel=Return&rc=1192%2C905%2C1319%2C938%3B704%2C1036%2C791%2C1069%3B805%2C1037%2C932%2C1071%3B879%2C1172%2C1006%2C1206%3B1737%2C1173%2C1825%2C1206%3B1167%2C1174%2C1256%2C1207%3B1269%2C1174%2C1397%2C1207%3B1547%2C1351%2C1637%2C1385%3B1792%2C1350%2C1881%2C1383%3B1894%2C1346%2C2012%2C1381%3B1327%2C1393%2C1456%2C1427%3B1328%2C1351%2C1416%2C1383%3B1107%2C1523%2C1194%2C1555%3B1208%2C1524%2C1333%2C1556%3B1419%2C1527%2C1506%2C1559%3B1790%2C1527%2C1880%2C1559%3B1894%2C1522%2C2019%2C1557%3B713%2C1648%2C800%2C1681%3B1204%2C1697%2C1329%2C1731%3B714%2C1816%2C801%2C1850%3B815%2C1817%2C943%2C1850%3B926%2C1989%2C1052%2C2022%3B1573%2C2007%2C1661%2C2039%3B1238%2C2167%2C1325%2C2204%3B1903%2C2293%2C2097%2C2334&queryId=c1ff13820549300e7eafd34075e862bd&pId=193

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Acknowledgments

• WikiTree profile Martin-7175 created through the import of Stough Family Tree.ged on Nov 1, 2011 by Lindsay Coleman.

• Thanks to Ed Poor for starting this profile. Click the Changes tab for the details of contributions by Ed and others.

• WikiTree profile Martin-7433 created through the import of Callahan, Wiley, Plotner, Powell Family Tree - 2009.ged on Dec 2, 2011 by Ron Callahan.

• WikiTree profile Martin-10068 created through the import of RALPHP~1.GED on Sep 10, 2012 by Ralph Polen. See the Changes page for the details of edits by Ralph and others.

• Hal Carey, firsthand knowledge. Click the Changes tab for the details of edits by Hal and others.

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