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Sarah Marion (McBain) Smith (abt. 1832 - 1905)

Sarah Marion Smith formerly McBain
Born about in Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland, United Kingdommap
[sibling(s) unknown]
Wife of — married 1853 in Ashby, Geelong, Victoriamap
Descendants descendants
Died in Ballarat East, Victoria, Australiamap
Profile last modified | Created 20 Dec 2009
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Biography

Birth

Marion was born in Scotland in 1834. She was the daughter of Donald McBain and . [1]

Residence

In 1851 Marion is working as a servant and residing with the Bradford family aged 14 at Inverness. Her surname is spelled "McBean". [2]

Arrival

Marion arrived in Australia aged 16. aboard the vessel "Georgiana' She is listed on the passenger manifest as a domestic servant, and that she is coming to Australia to join her brother in Geelong.[3]

Marriage

Marion married Edward Smith (1819-1898) in Victoria in 1853. A copy of the marriage certificate states that her parents are Donald McBean and Flora McLeod, and that she was born in Glasgow and her father was a labourier. Marion sighs with her 'mark' and is illiterate. Edward signs his own name and states his birthplace as Birmingham and profession a "bricklayer'. his parents are Thomas Smith (a mason) and Elizabeth Thomson?. she is aged 21 and he is aged 26. [4]

Children

Robert Thomas Smith 1858- Vic BDM Birth # 12780 / 1858 Archibald Smith 1856– John Smith 1860– Vic BDM #8073 / 1860 mother SARAH MCBain. Elizabeth Smith 1861– # 20418 / 1861 (mother surname listed as MCBEAN) Edward Smith 1863–1902 # 9555 / 1864 mother Sarah MCBEAN Mary Anne Smith 1866– # 15659 / 1866 mother SARAH MCBEAN [[Esther Smith 1868–1947 William Howard Smith 1871– #360 / 1871 mother SARAH MCBANE Florence Smith 1873–1945 Sarah J. Smith 1877–1940 Christina Margaret Smith 1879– 6900 / 1879


Death

Australia, Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: Sarah Smith
Birth Year: abt 1839
Age: 66
Death Place: Ballarat, Victoria
Father's name: McBain Kenneth
Mother's name: Sarah McLeod
Registration Year: 1905
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 11462

Research

Problems: 1) Marriage that is listed is for a Marion McBean??? in Australia?? Where is the proof that the family moved to Australia from Scotland?
2nd and most important the death cert listed has the wrong parents, BOTH??????????????

Answers to questions: there is information on Ancsetry that indicates that her fathers name was Donald Kenneth McBean/McBain and her mother was Flora. History shows that people changed their names or used different names - she might noth ave liked the name Marion and might have adopted a middle name as her first name, or it may be a name that the family gave to her out of respect to a deceased family member. Its not unusual. Other factors - the BDM transcriptions on death indexes are sometimes wrong - becuase the informants don't' know the details (particularly if the persons spouse has predeceased them), and because the chidlren didn't physically meet some of their grandparents. Having gone through the BDM I can't see another potential death for Sara/Marion and the family trees on Ancestry might have different parents listed (and the birth not sourced), but they consistently have her deceased as 1905 (family knowledge?). The marriage certificate links Sarah/Marion to Donald and Flora. Unable to find a birth source- or lock down the birth date and this might be because Marion was illiterate.

    • thought bubble* Birth date confusion might be because IF Marion who married in 1853 is the one and the same (and appears to be). she would have been 18 at the time of her marriage. This means she would need to have had a guardian and someone to give permission for her marriage as she is under the age of 21. She may have lied about her age so the marriage could proceed (in the absence of a guardian and IF she is the same Marion that was working and residing with the bradford family -she may have been orphaned and not had a guardian?

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Sources

  1. Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950. (Name: Marion Mcbain); (Gender: Female);(Birth Date:16 Mar 1834);(Birth Place, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland);(FatherRobert Mcbain);(Mother: Rachel Carmichael);(FHL Film Number: 0102920, 0994180, 1042939, 0102918-19)
  2. Source Citation Parish: Inverness; ED: 14; Page: 25; Line: 7; Roll: CSSCT1851_22; Year: 1851. Source Information: Ancestry.com. 1851 Scotland Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2006. Original data: Scotland: 1851 Scotland Census. Reels 1-217. General Register Office for Scotland, Edinburgh, Scotland.1851 Census
  3. Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, 1839-1923; Series: VPRS 14; Series Title: Register of Assisted Immigrants from the United Kindom (refer to microform copy, VPRS 3502) Ancestry Passenger Manifest Document Image. (Name: Marson McBain); (Nationality: Scottish)); (Arrival Age: 16); (Birth Date: 1836);(Departure Place: Glasgow); (Arrival Date:16 Oct 1852); (Arrival Place: Geelong and Victoria);( AustraliaShip: Georgiana)
  4. Marriage Record: # 1130 / 1853 BDM Victoria. (Name/s: Marion MCBEAN and Edward Smith).


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