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Sarah Marion (McBain) Smith (abt. 1832 - 1905)

Sarah Marion Smith formerly McBain
Born about in Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland, United Kingdommap
Wife of — married 1853 in Ashby, Geelong, Victoriamap
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 73 in Ballarat East, Victoria, Australiamap
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Profile last modified | Created 20 Dec 2009
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Biography

Sarah Marion McBain (married name Smith) was born about 1832 in Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland, daughter of Flora (McLeod) McBain and Donald McBain.[1]

In 1851, aged 14, Marion was working as a servant and residing with the Bradford family at Inverness. Her surname was recorded "McBean".[2]

Marion arrived in Australia aged 16 aboard the vessel "Georgiana' She is listed on the passenger manifest as a domestic servant, and stated that she was coming to Australia to join her brother in Geelong.[3]

Marion married Edward Smith in 1853 in Ashby, Geelong, Victoria.[4] Their children were:

Sarah died on 17 October 1905 in Ballarat East, Victoria.[12]

Research notes

No sources provided for children Archibald and Esther named in profile. More research needed.

A copy of her 1853 marriage certificate states that her parents are Donald McBean and Flora McLeod, and that she was born in Glasgow and her father was a labourer. Marion signed with her 'mark' and was illiterate. Edward signed his own name and stated his birthplace as Birmingham and profession a "bricklayer'. his parents were recorded Thomas Smith (a mason) and Elizabeth Thomson?. She was aged 21 and he was aged 26.

Problems: 1) Marriage that is listed is for a Marion McBean??? in Australia?? Where is the proof that the family moved to Australia from Scotland? Answer by L Harper. McBean surname was interchangable and her name of Marion changed with Sarah. Appears she did not travel out with her parents.

Name Marrion Mcbane Age 6 Estimated Birth Year abt 1835 Gender Female Where born Inverness, Scotland Civil parish South Uist County Inverness Address Lochboisdale Parish Number 118 Household Members (Name) Age Donald Mcbane 40 Ann Mcbane 35 Ann Mcbane 12 Marrion Mcbane 6 John Mcbane 2


2nd and most important the death cert listed has the wrong parents, BOTH??????????????

Answers to questions: there is information on Ancestry that indicates that her fathers name was Donald Kenneth McBean/McBain and her mother was Flora. History shows that people changed their names or used different names - she might noth ave liked the name Marion and might have adopted a middle name as her first name, or it may be a name that the family gave to her out of respect to a deceased family member. Its not unusual. Other factors - the BDM transcriptions on death indexes are sometimes wrong - because the informants don't' know the details (particularly if the persons spouse has predeceased them), and because the children didn't physically meet some of their grandparents. Having gone through the BDM I can't see another potential death for Sara/Marion and the family trees on Ancestry might have different parents listed (and the birth not sourced), but they consistently have her deceased as 1905 (family knowledge?). The marriage certificate links Sarah/Marion to Donald and Flora. Unable to find a birth source- or lock down the birth date and this might be because Marion was illiterate.

  • thought bubble: Birth date confusion might be because IF Marion who married in 1853 is the one and the same (and appears to be). she would have been 18 at the time of her marriage. This means she would need to have had a guardian and someone to give permission for her marriage as she is under the age of 21. She may have lied about her age so the marriage could proceed (in the absence of a guardian and IF she is the same Marion that was working and residing with the bradford family -she may have been orphaned and not had a guardian?

Sources

  1. Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950. (Name: Marion Mcbain); (Gender: Female);(Birth Date:16 Mar 1834);(Birth Place, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland);(FatherRobert Mcbain);(Mother: Rachel Carmichael);(FHL Film Number: 0102920, 0994180, 1042939, 0102918-19)
  2. Source Citation Parish: Inverness; ED: 14; Page: 25; Line: 7; Roll: CSSCT1851_22; Year: 1851. Source Information: Ancestry.com. 1851 Scotland Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2006. Original data: Scotland: 1851 Scotland Census. Reels 1-217. General Register Office for Scotland, Edinburgh, Scotland.1851 Census
  3. Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, 1839-1923; Series: VPRS 14; Series Title: Register of Assisted Immigrants from the United Kindom (refer to microform copy, VPRS 3502) Ancestry Passenger Manifest Document Image. (Name: Marson McBain); (Nationality: Scottish)); (Arrival Age: 16); (Birth Date: 1836);(Departure Place: Glasgow); (Arrival Date:16 Oct 1852); (Arrival Place: Geelong and Victoria);( AustraliaShip: Georgiana)
  4. Marriage Record: # 1130 / 1853 BDM Victoria. (Name/s: Marion MCBEAN and Edward Smith).
  5. Vic BDM Birth # 12780 / 1858
  6. Vic BDM Birth #8073 / 1860 mother SARAH MCBain.
  7. Vic BDM Birth # 20418 / 1861 (mother surname listed as MCBEAN)
  8. Vic BDM Birth # 9555 / 1864 mother Sarah MCBEAN
  9. Vic BDM Birth # 15659 / 1866 mother SARAH MCBEAN
  10. Vic BDM Birth #360 / 1871 mother SARAH MCBANE
  11. Vic BDM Birth # 6900 / 1879
  12. Australia, Death Index, 1787-1985
    Name: Sarah Smith
    Birth Year: abt 1839
    Age: 66
    Death Place: Ballarat, Victoria
    Father's name: McBain Kenneth
    Mother's name: Sarah McLeod
    Registration Year: 1905
    Registration Place: Victoria
    Registration Number: 11462




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