Debi (McGee) Hoag
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Debi (McGee) Hoag

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Signed 6 Sep 2015 | 100,967 contributions | 15,696 thank-yous | 4,247 connections

My pronouns are she/they. You can find me all over, working with the Sourcerers and Sprinters, Profile Improvement Voyagers, and during the Big Annual Events with Team Cornbread Catchers.
Debi A. Hoag formerly McGee aka Cundiff
Born 1950s.
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Biography[1]

Debi was born in Jacksonville, FL, just as her father, Charles McGee, returned to military service with the United States Air Force (USAF). As soon as her mother, Rachel Helms McGee, was released by the physician, the family moved to McDill Air Force Base in Tampa FL where her father was stationed. The USAF played a large role in Debi's growing years, sending her family to live all over the world including places like Denver Colorado, Japan, southern California, Germany, England, Okinawa, and finally back to Florida in 1973.
After finishing High School in 1976, Debi went to work for a local governmental agency where she had positions in the Finance and IT departments. She has been married twice, first to Ray Cundiff, and currently to Daniel Hoag.
She started gathering names, dates, and places around 1982 as a way to deal with the grief of a child's death. "Serious" genealogy research began in the early 1990s when the internet and computers introduced me to research partners who taught better habits and shared resources. A ten-year break from 2005 to 2015 was full of other fun things but she found that she missed the joys and challenges of research.
Coming back to genealogy, she discovered that two of her mentors/research collaborators had died. One's research had been transferred to an interested but non-active descendant and is not accessible; the whereabouts of the other's research is unknown. She felt it was necessary to find a place to share, collaborate, learn, and assure that her research would never suffer such a fate. WikiTree met that need.
Unfortunately, she made a decision to upload a (*sigh* too large) GEDCOM. In reviewing the profiles, it became obvious that a "Genealogy Do-Over"[2] was in order. All records are being reviewed; profiles and source citations are being updated. Things have changed but ... the more they change, the more they stay the same; there are always more questions than answers.
These days she is enjoying retirement and WikiTree. She's still working on that *sigh* too-large GEDCOM and has recently started working with another one because, obviously, she has lost her mind.
She's also planning for a future that will include extended research trips with a mobile workspace in a small motorhome.
Two pairs of upside-down legs, one wearing pink high heels, the other encased in trousers, are waving in the air, their bodies clearly buried beyond their waists in a pile of manure. Includes the words "Only Needs To Breathe To Be In Trouble".
"Trouble is never a problem.
It comes looking for me because it knows I'm a willing accomplice."[3]


Sources

  1. Biography written by Debi Hoag, September 2015, based on events as related by her parents and on personal knowledge of events in her own life.
  2. MacEntee, Thomas, The Genealogy Do-Over Workbook, 2015; WorldCat link.
  3. Escarlata Cisneros aka Debi Hoag, 25 June 2010, Facebook conversation
  • Birth and Marriage source documents on file and available on a need-to-know basis.

DNA Confirmation Notes

Paternal Line
  • The relationship to father Charles McGee's maternal line is confirmed by a 70.8 cM match between Debi McGee Hoag GEDmatch G293623 and her paternal third cousin Nancy Rose GEDmatch A125363.
  • The relationship to father Charles E McGee's paternal line is suggested by a 61.4 cM autosomal DNA match between Debi McGee Hoag GEDmatch G293623 and her paternal fourth cousin Larry Hayer GEDmatch A037820; more cousin matches are needed for triangulation.
Maternal Line
  • Maternal relationship is confirmed by an autosomal GEDmatch comparison between Debi (McGee) Hoag , GEDmatch kit # TN9500362, and Jackie Helms, GEDmatch kit # A772129, (compare kits), her 1st cousin 1x removed. Their most-recent common ancestors are Martin Helms and Seena Baucom, the grandparents of Debi (McGee) Hoag and great grandparents of Jackie Helms. Predicted relationship from GEDmatch: 1st cousin once removed, based on sharing 402.6cM cM across 19 segments. Debi is the daughter of Laura Helms who is the daughter of the common ancestors Martin Helms & Seena Baucom.
  • The relationship to mother Rachel Helms's paternal line is suggested by a 74.2 cM autosomal DNA match between Debi McGee Hoag GEDmatch G293623 and her maternal third cousin once removed Julia (Bell) Lansberry GEDmatch M071333; more cousin matches are needed for triangulation.


Also Known As

I've been doing genealogy research for many years (and on the internet since 1992 with the emails to prove it LOL). During that time, I've gotten divorced and remarried, created websites, and changed email addresses too many times. When I'm looking for someone, I'll often search the web for names and email addresses. To facilitate people finding me, I'm listing the names, websites, and addresses I've used.
  • Debi McGee Cundiff
  • Debi McGee Hoag
  • sasicnet @ gate.net
  • sasic @ aol.com
  • debic @ mpinet.net
  • Debi_McGee_Cundiff @ comcast.net
  • DebiMcGeeHoag @ centurylink.net
  • Genealogy @ DebiHoag.com
  • Debi McGee Cundiff's Genealogy Homepage and Book Index Links
  • Escarlata Cisneros on Facebook and Second Life. My pseudonym started from having to stay under the radar when I joined Facebook (supposedly respectable small government employee nearing retirement having too much fun at renaissance faires). About half the people I know only know me as Escarlata.
  • @ImprovDebi on Twitter

Wiki-Will for Digital Afterlife

In the event of my death or incapacity for more than 90 days, the following shall serve as my unspoken permission:
  • I would like all of the profiles for people not living, and which I alone manage, to be changed to Open. This is up to and including my own profile.
  • Space pages that I have created for projects should be assigned to the leaders of those projects
  • Other space pages can all be changed to Open with the exception of the DAM_Collection.
  • If I missed anything (and for the DAM Collection space page and any Red/still living profiles on my Watchlist), I ask that they be managed in keeping with the Honor Code and preserving the privacy of living people:
    • by any of my extended family members (including my former spouse and his family), whether or not they are on the Trusted Lists.
    • Should these profiles/pages not be accessed within 180 days from my demise, the Wikitree staff shall have full and total access to manage said space and profiles in any way they see fit, up to and including assigning them to any willing Profile Manager, orphaning them, or deleting them.
My thanks to the following members for bits and pieces which were incorporated into my Wiki-Will:
Pat Saunders, Paula (Bond) Kohring, Liz (Noland) Shifflett, Lisa Thurston, Andreas (Basso) West, Deborah (Réaume) Collier

Community Spirit

Debi (McGee) Hoag participated with Cornbread Catchers during the 2016 Source-a-Thon, adding sources to some previously unsourced profiles.
Debi (McGee) Hoag participated with Cornbread Catchers during the 2017 Source-a-Thon, adding sources to some previously unsourced profiles.
England Orphan Team
Debi (McGee) Hoag has completed the England Project's Post 1700 Orphan Trail I.
England Orphan Team
Debi (McGee) Hoag has completed the England Project's Pre-1700 Orphan Trail II.
RootsTech
RootsTech Attendee: 2018
Debi (McGee) Hoag participated with Team 811 (cleaning merged profiles) during the 2018 Clean-a-Thon.
Debi (McGee) Hoag participated with Cornbread Catchers during the 2018 Source-a-Thon, adding sources to some previously unsourced profiles.
Quakers Project Logo
Debi improved Quaker Project profiles in 2018 as part of the managed profiles challenges
Debi (McGee) Hoag participated with Team Cornbread Catchers during the Connect-a-Thon.
Fountain Pen
Debi has written and improved ten profiles for the Biography Builders Challenge.
Debi (McGee) Hoag participated with Cornbread Catchers during the 2019 Source-a-Thon, adding sources to some previously unsourced profiles.
Sourcerers' Challenge Wise Owl Yearly Golden Achievement Milestone
Debi reached the Golden Achievement milestone by sourcing at least one profile in every month of the 2019 Sourcerers' Challenge
Debi (McGee) Hoag participated with Cornbread Catchers during the 2020 Connect-a-Thon.
Debi (McGee) Hoag participated with Cornbread Catchers during the 2020 Source-a-Thon, adding sources to some previously unsourced profiles.
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Debi was a valued member of the Greeters Project who has moved to Emeritus status.
Debi (McGee) Hoag participated with Cornbread Catchers during the 2021 Source-a-Thon, adding sources to some previously unsourced profiles.
Debi (McGee) Hoag participated with Cornbread Catchers during the 2022 Source-a-Thon, adding sources to some previously unsourced profiles.
WikiTree Day
WikiTree Day Attendee: 2022
Debi (McGee) Hoag participated with Cornbread Catchers during the January 2023 Connect-a-Thon, and added 179 connections.
Meet Our Members - Debi Hoag

rev. 16 January 2023, McGee-1611


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DNA Connections
It may be possible to confirm family relationships by comparing test results with Debi or other carriers of her ancestors' mitochondrial DNA. Mitochondrial DNA test-takers in the direct maternal line:
  • Debi (McGee) Hoag: Mitochondrial DNA Test Other, haplogroup K1a
It is likely that these autosomal DNA test-takers will share some percentage of DNA with Debi:

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I loved reading through you and your mother’s profiles. I have not found a direct link to my family and Helms’ yet but I knew when I was young I attended some Helms reunions. So still looking. I started with my friend’s family (Donald Ray Helms )and working my way up to see if I can connect his family and mine. Thank you for the information you provided.
posted by Nikki (Stegall) Davis
Sourcerers' Challenge Wise Owl Yearly Golden Achievement Milestone for 1 sourced profile tracked every month
Debi (McGee) Hoag reached the Golden Achievement milestone by sourcing at least one profile in every month of the 2022 Sourcerers Project Sourcerers' Challenge.

We appreciate your consistent work in improving WikiTree through the Sourcerers Project in 2022!

posted by Bill Feidt
edited by Bill Feidt
Thanks for your consistent sourcing with us, Debi!
Sourcerers' Challenge Wise Owl Yearly Golden Achievement Milestone for 1 sourced profile tracked every month
Debi (McGee) Hoag reached the Golden Achievement milestone by sourcing at least one profile in every month of the 2021 Sourcerers Project Sourcerers' Challenge.
posted by Mel Bishop
Debi, thanks for your comment about my older adds. I want to comply, but I'm struggling with creating a good procedure.

I was wondering when someone would take me to task…

How do I create a profile based on someone else’s research and allow others to interact with what I have? Are we actually saying that if I don’t (yet?) have sources etc., I should not add the profile? (The notice bar that comes up when you are about to add a pre-1700 profile seems to indicate that you should add the profile and then ask for help... or maybe I misunderstood?)

I understand the desire to keep the tree “clean” and well supported – basic data-integrity. I just don’t see how to record what I have and be able to discuss with someone – that I haven’t found (haven’t really made an effort to do so as yet because I am focused on getting another 950 profiles created - Norway is only a small piece of the puzzle).

D

posted by Duane Malcolm
When I'm working from an online tree that has some sources to a certain point and then none for the older generations, I put any further speculation in that last profile. It's probably easier to give you an example than try to explain further. Take a look at the second research item on Helen Marie (Hess) Coop (abt.1916-bef.1992). If that record is for her, then we know her parents. At the point that I'm sure Helen Coop and Helen Hess are the same people, I will create their profiles.

If I wanted to talk about it who her parents are, I would use the Collaboration > Public Q & A link in the right column of her profile. That would take me to the Genealogist to Genealogist (G2G) forum where I could ask a question about her and request help. I could tell about the online tree where I found the clues for her parents, etc.

This example is from a post-1700 profile but the process is the same for pre-1700.

I hope this helps,

Debi

posted by Debi (McGee) Hoag
Debi,

Thank you for your contribution of adding a profile source... Today I found the 'tweak' you made on 3/14/2019 for Leroy Hampton Simkins Jr (1904-1987), brother of my father John Eldred Simkins (1906-1991). <finally...> ...Sending gratitude on this day before Thanksgiving, 2021, John S.

posted by John Simkins Jr
You are very welcome, John, glad to help. Sourcing is what I love to do.
posted by Debi (McGee) Hoag
Debi, thank you so much for helping me with sourcing! Showing the adjustment to the inline source is like the best thing that's happened to me today, for real. I hated that it looked so redundant in the sources section. You have been so helpful and beneficial to me. I want you to know how very much it is appreciated!!
posted by Crystal Stevenson
I'm so glad it helped, Crystal. The Profile Improvements Project has a program to help you learn how to create biographies that honor your ancestors and includes all kinds of tips like that. If you are interested, you can find out more about that on the Profile Improvements Project (PIP) Voyage page.
posted by Debi (McGee) Hoag
I would like to FORMALLY post my Writ of Complaint that you left, on vacation, without me (your unannounced but favorite cousin), with no promises to take pictures, wrestle grizzlie bears, hug the squatch or have a bon fire! <end of complaint>

Have fun, be safe! Katie

Sourcerers' Challenge Wise Owl Yearly Golden Achievement Milestone
Debi reached the Golden Achievement milestone by sourcing at least one profile in every month of the 2019 Sourcerers' Challenge

Outstanding! We started this program in April of this year 2019 award is April through December.

posted by Laura (Pennie) Bozzay

Rejected matches › Deborah McGee