Eleanor Mary Ann (McMurdock) Rogers (1567-1670)

Eleanor Mary Ann Rogers formerly McMurdock

Born 1567 in Scotland

Ancestors

Daughter of William Cullen and Jone (Millard) Cullen

Sister of Hannah (McMURDOCKE) Rogers, Agnes (Cullen) Randall and Margaret (Cullen) Chapman

[spouse(s) unknown]

[children unknown]

Died 1670 at about age 103 in Stratford On Avon, Warwickshire, England

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Profile last modified 29 Oct 2023 | Created 13 Dec 2010

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Research suggests that this person may never have existed. See the text for details.

Multiple people may be conflated in this profile, i.e. information about different people may be combined and confused.

Several Rogers' lineages were affected by Gustav Anjou, a genealogy fraudster who made his living writing false pedigrees.

1 Biography
2 Original Profile Data
3 Research Notes
4 Sources
5 Acknowledgments

Biography

Eleanor Mary Ann McMurdock is believed to be a modern fictionalized persona conflated with Miss McMurdo, unsourced wife of Thomas Matthew Rogers mentioned by various 19th and early 20th-century writers investigating the family lineage of John Rogers, Smithfield martyr.

No actual records or verifiable data for this profile subject exist.

Original Profile Data

See Changes Tab^[1]

Name

Name: Eleanor /McMurdock/
:Name:Eleanor /Rogers/
Found multiple versions of NAME. Using Eleanor /McMurdock/.

Marriage

: Husband: Thomas Matthew Rogers
: Wife: Eleanor McMurdock
: Child: Thomas B. Rogers
: Marriage:
:: Date: ABT 1586

Unproven Material

Gained through merges and edits, none of the information below contains records or verifiable original sources:

Eleanor (McMurdock) Rogers was born in Ireland.

Category:Raphoe, County Donegal

Birth

Date: 1567

Place: Scotland

Death

Date: 1670

Place: Warwickshire, England

Marriage

Husband: Thomas Matthew Rogers

Wife: Eleanor McMurdock

Child: John Rogers

Marriage:

Date: 1586

Place: Somerset, England^[2]

Marriage

: Husband: @P363@

Wife: Eleanor Mcmurdock

Child: Edmund Rogers

Relationship to Father: Natural

Relationship to Mother: Natural

Child: William Rogers

Relationship to Father: Natural

Relationship to Mother: Natural

Child: @P362@

Relationship to Father: Natural

Relationship to Mother: Natural

Child: George Rogers

Relationship to Father: Natural

Relationship to Mother: Natural

Marriage:

Date: On 1586

Place: Watford,Northhamptonshire,England

Legacy Resource:

Frost, Josephine C., Ancestors of Amyntas Shaw and His Wife Lucy Tufts Williams (Not Published, 1920) Page 28 (One of the first re-compilers to reference Miss McMurdo as McMurdock Frost provides no sources or rationale for the name change: Frost also used conflated reference material previously proven erroneous by eminent investigators (Chester, Henry Waters, J.S. Rogers). Her compilation re: the Rogers lineage is considered a tertiary resource i.e. a re-telling of secondary compilations without original or supporting research).

Research Notes

Children previously attached with no sources:

Sources

↑ Original Profile,13 December 2010.
↑ Source: #S20 Page: Source number: 2608.000; Source type: Electronic Database; Number of Pages: 1; Submitter Code: RH1. Data: Text: Birth date: 1565Birth place: Marriage date: 1562Marriage place: Note: http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=worldmarr_ga&h=1036391&ti=0&indiv=try&gss=pt

Out of Date/Unverifiable Ancestry.com Gedc. Imports

Source: S20 Author: Yates Publishing Title: U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004.Original data - This unique collection of records was extracted from a variety of sources including family group sheets and electronic databases. Originally, the information was derived Record ID Number: MH:S20 User ID: 338789E1-0B25-4A52-A0EC-92F88E48D1D0
Millennium File Author: Heritage Consulting Publication: Ancestry.com Operations Inc APID: 1,7249::0
U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 Author: Yates Publishing Publication: Ancestry.com Operations Inc APID: 1,7836::0

Acknowledgments

This person was created through the import of DEG_16_GEDMATCH.GED on 13 December 2010.
This person was created through the import of Bishop Family Tree.ged on 18 February 2011.
This person was created through the import of HOWE(1).ged on 08 April 2011.
WikiTree profile McMurdock-5 created through the import of Paula's family 5-28-2011.GED on May 29, 2011 by Paula Marksman.
WikiTree profile McMurdocke-3 created through the import of mike_walton_2011.ged on Aug 20, 2011 by Mike Walton.
WikiTree profile McMurdock-6 created through the import of Powell.ged on Jan 9, 2013 by Shaun Powell.
Mcmurdock-9 was created by Gene Gower through the import of BOYLES-GOWER (1).ged on Jan 10, 2015.

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K C

This person is a part of an American lineage known to be affected by Gustav Anjou, a genealogy fraudster who made his living writing false pedigrees and appears to fit Anjou's modus operandi. Check here, here and the linked category Gustave Anjou Fraud found at the bottom of this profile for more info re: his pattern of fraud. If a pm has solid primary sources for this profile or thoughts on allowing this profile to become a part of the Disproven Existence Project, please add them.

posted Oct 10, 2019 by K C

Jillaine Smith

Yes please clean up this profile and merge her with the equally unlikely existent Miss Murdo.

posted Oct 09, 2019 by Jillaine Smith

K C

Detaching as wife of Thomas Matthew Rogers whose wife has historically been noted as Miss McMurdo. Reasons: Profile is a mash-up. BirthPlace Scotland is associated with Rogers the martyr gr/son. MarriagePlace Somerset belongs to alleged parents. Alt MarriagePlace Watford belongs to Rogers Mayflower family i.e. Wm Rogers md Eleanor Unknown. DeathPlace Warwickshire associates with Thomas Matthew Rogers. Irish sticker is unrelated to bio. No records/sources exist for an Eleanor Mary Ann McMurdocke and nothing indicates parents are remotely correct. Sons are also cited as her sister Hannah's, but also attributed to Miss McMurdo and may be re-attached. If pm's agree, this profile could be reworked and merged with Miss McMurdo, wife of Thomas Matthew if desired. What say ye?

posted Oct 07, 2019 by K C

Gillian Thomas

Hi profile managers. Do you have any sources for Eleanor, particularly any sources explaining why she was born in Scotland to parents with totally different surnames from England? If not, do you think that she needs to be detached from her parents? Please contact me if you would like to discuss. Thanks.

posted Dec 21, 2018 by Gillian Thomas

Maria Maxwell

Hi Folks, doing a review of profiles which had the Irish Roots template. Sticker was already on profile. Data however shows Scotland as place of birth. Looks like we have two profiles for her husband ?

posted Nov 03, 2018 by Maria Maxwell