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Lillian Florence (Meacham) Gunn (1886 - 1973)

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Lillian Florence (Meena) Gunn formerly Meacham aka Hughes, Grey-Clarke
Born in Maidstone, Kent, Englandmap
Ancestors ancestors
Wife of — married (to ) in Kensington, London, Englandmap
Wife of — married about (to ) in Beiruit, Lebanonmap
Descendants descendants
Died in Coquitlam, British Columbia, Canadamap
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Biography

She was born in 1886, in Maidstone, Kent, England, to English parents. Her father was a brewery chemist and manager, and both her parents were serious amateur artists. When she was about 8 her father was hired to be a brewery manager at Olsson’s in Cape Town, South Africa, and the family moved there, by ship. Each year they traveled, by ship, for their holidays, either to England, Scotland or Italy (where her parents took painting holidays).

When she was a teenager, she was sent to London to finish her training as a concert pianist, at the Royal Academy of Music (she made her solo debut, and won two gold medals, and never played a piano seriously again). She was a member of the Fabian Society, and the Theosophical Society, and was friends with H.G. Wells, G.B Shaw, etc.. This is when she probably first met my grandfather, Jack. In 1907 she married the musician, composer, and collector of Irish folk songs, Herbert Hughes. A year later she had her first child, Pat (later known professionally as “Spike”) Hughes. He later gained fame as a jazz musician, as a music reviewer, and an expert in opera.

By 1912 her marriage with Herbert had fallen apart (though they did not divorce until 1922), and she had no real source of income. She moved, with Pat, to Sicily, where the cost of living was much lower, and she could support herself and Pat on a small stipend from her father, and the money she made from making and selling wooden toys. She later moved to Fiesole, outside Florence, and made frequent trips between England (where Pat was packed off to boarding school at age 5 or 6) and Italy. In 1915, after the outbreak of World War II, Pat and Jack Gunn (who would later become her second husband ) travelled through war torn Europe to join her in Fiesole.

Not long after, she decided that mainland Europe was not a safe place to live during a world war, and she and Pat sailed to South Africa, where they lived with her parents for a year or so. The trip took three or four weeks each way. They travelled quite extensively in South Africa.

While the war was still being fought, they returned to England, and she began living with Jack. Tiring of the occult, they dabbled in Buddhism, and became interested in psychoanalysis. Jack resumed his career as an Egyptologist, making frequent trips to Egypt, and she accompanied him on some of them. In 1922, when Tutankhamun’s tomb was discovered, they were living in Berlin. In 1924 Meena was studying under Freud in Vienna, and a year or so later she was studying under Sándor Ferenczi in Budapest. This was the one subject which maintained her interest, and she was still a practicing psychoanalyst into her 80s. She and Jack were married about 1926, in Beirut Lebanon.

Jack was working at a “dig” in Saqqara, Egypt. The site included the remains of 4 thousand year old workmen’s houses, and it was easier to put a roof on the existing mud-brick structure, than to build new housing, or live in tents. By 1928 they were living in Cairo, where Jack was a curator at the Egyptian Museum, and her second son, Iain, was born there. Of course, northern Europeans did not stay in Egypt over the summer, so each year they travelled either to England or Europe. Iain remembers celebrating his second birthday (May 1930) in the Alps.

In 1931 Jack was appointed curator of the Egyptian collection at the University of Pennsylvania Museum, in Philadelphia. But Meena did not like the American summers, so she returned to England, with my father, each summer.

In 1935 Jack was appointed as professor of Egyptology at Oxford. Although he had a strong “public” school education, he had never attended University, so they had to give him an honorary MA before they could hire him as a professor. The whole family moved back to England.

Meena remained in England, except for holidays in Europe, until the 1950s.

Meena and Jack were divorced in 1940, and Meena remarried, to neurologist Alex Grey-Clarke (who died of meningitis a few years later) about 30 years her junior.

In the late 1950s Meena traveled to Vancouver (west coast of Canada) to visit Iain and his family, and then moved there (in her mid 70s) in 1960, just as Iain moved to Yorktown, New York, (east coast of the US) where he went to work for IBM research.

In Canada, she was living in a small, run down, house on a farm owned by a Mennonite family. She had approximately 20 un-house-trained, unfixed, Pekinese dogs, and at least one dead puppy in the deep freeze. The owners apparently believed they were doing “God’s work” by looking after this eccentric old woman.

In 1965 she decided she wanted to live nearer Iain's family, living in an “in-law apartment” for a few months, and then she bought a house of her own, in Lake Peekskill, a summer community. This meant that the water lines were above the frost line, and the water was shut off all winter. She dealt with this by asking her (mostly schizophrenic) patients to bring gallon milk bottles of water with them when they came for their appointments.

After 3 or 4 years, she (in her 80s) moved to England, but there was a 6 month quarantine for dogs. After about 6 weeks she decided that the dogs were miserable without her (really she was miserable without THEM), and changed plans, moving back to the Mennonite farm outside Vancouver, and became a Canadian citizen. She suffered a stroke, and died there in 1973.



  • Birth: reg. Oct 1886, Maidstone, Kent[1]
  • Baptism: 7 Oct 1886, Maidstone, Kent[2]
  • Death: 2 Jun 1973, Coquitlam, British Columbia, Canada[3]
•Family 1 Herbert HUGHES, b. England , d. Unknown
Married 1907
Children
1. Patrick Cairns HUGHES, 1900-3, b. 19 Oct 1908, England , d. 1987, Unknown (Age 78 years)
• Family 2 Battiscombe George GUNN, b. 1883, England , d. 1950, Unknown (Age 67 years)
Married Bef 1928
Divorced 1940 [1]
Children
1. John Battiscombe GUNN, b. 1928, Cairo, Al Qahirah, Egypt , d. 2 Dec 2008, New York, New York, United States (Age 80 years)
• Family 3 Alex Gray CLARKE, b. England , d. Unknown


England & Wales births 1837-2006 Transcription
First name(s) LILIAN FLORENCE
Last name MEACHAM
Birth year 1886
Birth quarter 4
District Maidstone
County Kent
Country England
Volume 2A
Page 696
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Births
Collections from Great Britain, England
© brightsolid online publishing ltd


England, Births & Baptisms 1538-1975 Transcription
First name(s) Lilian Florence
Last name Meacham
Gender Female
Baptism year 1886
Baptism date 07 Oct 1886
Residence Maidstone, Kent, England
Place Maidstone
County Kent
Country England
Father's first name(s) Charles Stephen
Father's last name Meacham
Mother's first name(s) Florence
Mother's last name -
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain
Index (c) IRI. Used by permission of FamilySearch Intl


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Earl Street, Maidstone, Kent, England
Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Charles Stephen Meacham Head Married Male 30 1861 Lichfield, Staffordshire, England Brewer
Florence Meacham Wife Married Female 35 1856 Lichfield, Staffordshire, England -
Lillian Florence Meacham Daughter Single Female 4 1887 Maidstone, Kent, England -
Hilda Isabella Meacham Daughter Single Female 0 1891 Maidstone, Kent, England -
Rose Vallins Servant Single Female 19 1872 Pimlico, Middlesex, England General Servant Domestic
Lydia Whitley Scott Servant Single Female 25 1866 Wimbledon, Surrey, England Mothers Help
Alice Maud Howe Servant Single Female 19 1872 Ryarsh, Kent, England Nurse


England & Wales marriages 1837-2005 Transcription
First name(s) LILLIAN FLORENCE P
Last name MEACHAM
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1908
MarriageFinder™ LILLIAN FLORENCE P MEACHAM married one of these people
William H Webberley, Herbert Hughes
District Kensington
County London
Country England
Volume 1A
Volume as transcribed 1A
Page number 303
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
Collections from Great Britain, England
© brightsolid online publishing ltd


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
1 Fitzjohn Avenue Barnet, Chipping Barnet, Hertfordshire, England
Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Lillian Florence Hughes Wife Married Female 24 1887 Maidstone Kent -
Patrick Cairus Hughes Son - Male 2 1909 Barnet Herts -
Infant Hughes Daughter - Female 0 1911 Barnet Herts -
Cicely Simmons Servant Single Female 21 1890 Barnet Herts General Servant Domestic
Hilda Isabelle Meacham Visitor Single Female 19 1892 Maidstone Kent -
Gwenolen Emily Meacham Visitor Single Female 18 1893 Maidstone Kent -
Ethel Cooper Visitor Single Female 30 1881 Norwich Norfolk -


British armed forces and overseas banns and marriages Transcription
Source Gro Consular Marriages (1849-1965)
Archive reference MCON
Records year range 1926-1930
Record set British Armed Forces And Overseas Banns And Marriages
First name(s) Lillian F P
Sex Female
Last name Hughes
Marriage year 1926-30
Type Consular/Overseas
Country Lebanon
Marriage place Beirut
Page 445
MarriageFinder™ Lillian F P Hughes married
Battiscombe G Gunn
Place type Place
Volume 21
Line number 81
Archive General Register Office
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
Collections from Great Britain, UK None
© Findmypast
and
British armed forces and overseas banns and marriages Transcription
Source Gro Consular Marriages (1849-1965)
Archive reference MCON
Records year range 1926-1930
Record set British Armed Forces And Overseas Banns And Marriages
First name(s) Lillian F P
Sex Female
Last name Meacham
Marriage year 1926-30
Type Consular/Overseas
Country Lebanon
Marriage place Beirut
Page 445
MarriageFinder™ Lillian F P Meacham married
Battiscombe G Gunn
Place type Place
Volume 21
Line number 69
Archive General Register Office
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
Collections from Great Britain, UK None
© Findmypast


New York Passenger Lists & Arrivals Transcription
First name(s) Lillian F
Last name Gunn
Sex Female
Age 44
Birth year 1887
Birth place England Maidstone
Arrival year 1931
Arrival city New York
Arrival state New York
Arrival country United States
Ship name Aquitania
Role Passenger
Country United States
Film number 1756784
NARA roll number 5046
NARA publication number T715
Record set New York Passenger Lists & Arrivals
Category Travel & migration
Subcategory Passenger lists
Collections from Americas, United States
With Battiscombe G (47, Archaeologist) and John B (3)
19th September 1931
Also
Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Transcription
State New York
First name(s) Meena
Last name Gunn
Gender Female
Age 44
Birth year 1887
Marital status M
Occupation HFE
Departure year 1931
Departure day 22
Departure month 9
Departure port Southampton
Destination port New York
Destination NEW YORK
Country United States
Destination country United States
Ship name Aquitania
Ship official number 135553
Ship master's first name R B
Ship master's last name IRVING
Shipping line CUNARD
City SOUTHAMPTON
Ship destination port NEW YORK
Ship destination country USA
Ship square feet 10590
Ship registered tonnage 20800
Number of passengers 497
Record set Passenger Lists Leaving Uk 1890-1960
Category Travel & migration
Subcategory Passenger lists
Collections from Great Britain, England, United States, Americas
Transcriptions © brightsolid online publishing ltd
People with same last name on this voyage
State First name(s) Last name Title
- Battiscombe Gunn -
- John Gunn -


Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960 Transcription
State New York
First name(s) Lilian
Last name Gunn
Gender Female
Age 45
Birth year 1887
Occupation HWIFE
Departure year 1932
Departure day 29
Departure month 11
Departure port Southampton
Destination port New York
Destination NEW YORK
Country United States
Destination country United States
Ship name Majestic
Ship official number 146555
Ship master's first name E L
Ship master's last name TRANT
Shipping line WHITE STAR
City SOUTHAMPTON
Ship destination port NEW YORK
Ship destination country USA
Ship registered tonnage 56620
Number of passengers 179
Record set Passenger Lists Leaving Uk 1890-1960
Category Travel & migration
Subcategory Passenger lists
Collections from Great Britain, England, United States, Americas
Transcriptions © brightsolid online publishing ltd
With John age 4
Address Godstone Green, Surrey
Also
New York Passenger Lists & Arrivals Transcription
First name(s) Lillian Florence
Last name Gunn
Sex Female
Age 46
Birth year 1886
Birth place England
Arrival year 1932
Arrival city New York
Arrival state New York
Arrival country United States
Ship name Majestic
Role Passenger
Country United States
Film number 1757005
NARA roll number 5267
NARA publication number T715
Record set New York Passenger Lists & Arrivals
Category Travel & migration
Subcategory Passenger lists
Collections from Americas, United States
With John B (age 4)
Glen Riddle, PA, USA


New York Passenger Lists & Arrivals Transcription
First name(s) Lilian Florence
Last name Gunn
Sex Female
Age 47
Birth year 1886
Birth place England
Arrival year 1933
Arrival city New York
Arrival state New York
Arrival country United States
Ship name Majestic
Role Passenger
Country United States
Film number 1757162
NARA roll number 5424
NARA publication number T715
Record set New York Passenger Lists & Arrivals
Category Travel & migration
Subcategory Passenger lists
Collections from Americas, United States
With John Battiscombe Gunn, Age 5
Nov 29 1933


1939 Register Transcription
Clarke (Gunn) Household (4 People) 27 Field Lane , Letchworth U.D., Hertfordshire, England
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Lilian Florence Clarke (Gunn) 17 Sep 1886 Female Psychologist Married 213 1
Alexander A G Clarke 22 Sep 1909 Male Medical Practitioner Single 213 2
Rosina Vincetn (Shipley) ? Dec ? Female Housekeeper Domestic Married 213 3
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
Ref: RG101/1619J/024/11 Letter Code: DELI© Findmypast Ltd


England & Wales marriages 1837-2005 Transcription
First name(s) LILIAN F P
Last name MEACHAM
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1940
Spouse's last name Clarke
District Ploughley
County Oxfordshire
Country England
Volume 3A
Volume as transcribed 3A
Page number 5380
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
Collections from Great Britain, England
© brightsolid online publishing ltd


British Columbia, Canada, Death Index, 1872–1992 Transcription
First name(s) Lillian Florence
Last name Gunn,
Sex Female
Age 86
Year 1973
Death date 6/2/1973
Place COQUITLAM
Province British Columbia
Country Canada
GSU microfilm number 2050138
BC microfilm number B13325
Record set British Columbia, Canada, Death Index, 1872–1992
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Canada, Americas
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Sources

  1. England & Wales Civil Registration Birth Index 1837-1915, ancestry.com: Lilian Florence Meacham, Oct-Nov-Dec 1886, Maidstone, Kent 2a 696.
  2. England Select Births and Christenings 1538-1975, ancestry.com: Lilian Florence Meacham, baptism 7 Oct 1886, Maidstone, Kent, England. Parents Charles Stephen Meacham & Florence. FHL Film Number 1835480.
  3. British Columbia, Canada, Death Index 1872-1990, ancestry.com: Lillian Florence Gunn, age 86, died 2 Jun 1973, Coquitlam. Registration Number 1973-09-008212. BCA Number B13325. GSU Number 2050138.


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