William (Montagu) de Montague
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William (Montagu) de Montague (abt. 1275 - 1319)

William "2nd Lord Montacute" de Montague formerly Montagu aka Montacute
Born about in Cassington, Oxfordshire, Englandmap
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Husband of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
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Died at about age 44 in Gascony, Francemap [uncertain]
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Biography

Son and heir of Simon de Montagu, 1st Baron Montagu , by either his first wife, Hawise de St Amand, or his second wife, Isabel, whose parentage is unknown.[1]

He married Elizabeth de Montfort[2] circa 1292.[3]They had four sons and six daughters.

Montagu died in Gascony on 18 October 1319. His place of burial is unknown. "William Montagu was descended from a prominent west-country family which traced its origins back to the conquest. The patrimony was concentrated in Somerset with the manors of Jerlington and Thurlbear as principle residences. During the thirteenth century the family had extended its holdings beyond the south-west, most notably acquiring the manor of Aston Clinton, Buckinghamshire, in 1252.

William's father, Simon, had an impressive record of military service under Edward I, and was personally summoned to parliament between 1299 and 1316.

Between 1301 and 1304 William Montagu too made his mark in the Scottish wars. In 1302, described as king's yeoman, [William Montagu] was entrusted with the supervision of shipping for the war.

In 1306, like many of his illustrious contemporaries, [William Montagu] was knighted along with Edward, prince of Wales.

In 1314 he was keeper of Berwick [Castle, Northumberland]. This military experience served him well, for it [was] as ‘commander of the royal cavalry’ (prefectus militie regis) in 1316, a description accorded to him by the Vita Edwardi secundi, that he first emerged as an important servant of the king (Vita Edwardi secundi, 68).

In [1316] he played a leading part in suppressing the revolt of Llywelyn Bren (d. 1318) in Glamorgan [Wales] and in settling the disputes between the townspeople of Bristol and Bartholomew Badlesmere (d. 1322), the constable of the castle there.

In November 1316 he was appointed steward of the royal household. The material rewards of his stewardship included a pension of 200 marks, the absolution of his father's debts, forfeited lands in Cumberland, a quay on the Thames, and the marriage of Joan, one of the heirs of Theobald de Verdon, which he bestowed upon his younger son.

[William de Montagu] also acted as a channel of patronage for others and a number of grants were made on his information.

By influencing [King Edward II] and making himself a lynchpin in the relationships which bound Edward II to his courtier supporters[,] Montagu developed the importance of the stewardship, which after his death became an important focus of contention among the rival magnates and the particular object of the earl of Lancaster's ambitions." (Ref: ODNB)

An article, part of an extended blog with well-researched information on William Montacute and his political and social environment, can be found at edwardthesecond.blogspot.com

Spouse and Children

"Montagu had four sons with his wife, Elizabeth, daughter of Peter de Montfort. The eldest, John, predeceased his father before August 1317. Of the others, William Montagu (1301 - –1344) succeeded as third Baron Montagu; Simon Montagu (d. 1345) was successively bishop of Worcester and Ely; and Edward made his career in the wars of Edward III.

[Widow] Elizabeth [de Montfort de Montagu] later married Sir Thomas Furnival whose son Thomas Furnival the younger had married John Montagu's widow, Joan de Verdon."[4]

Note of caution

This profile is involved in what the great genealogist J H Round called the "The Carington Imposture", a famous fraudulent pedigree. See his Peerage and Pedigrees Vol. II, starting at page 134. At least some of the people in that pedigree (such as this profile's supposed daughter Katherine, now detached) never existed and others are represented inaccurately.

Sources

  1. Cokayne 1936, p. 80.
  2. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 2nd Edition...page 28, by Douglas Richardson; https://books.google.ca/books?isbn=1461045207
  3. The Visitation of the County of Devon: Comprising the Heralds' Visitations of 1531, 1564 & 1620, Exeter, 1895, pp.243-4, pedigree of Courtenay
  4. Oxford Dictionary of National Biography

See also:

  • An article, part of an extended blog with well-researched information on William Montacute and his political and social environment, can be found at edwardthesecond.blogspot.com
  • Oxford Dictionary of National Biography (ODNB)
  • Royal Ancestry, Douglas Richardson, Vol. 4, page 114. Entry for WILLIAM DE MONTAGU.
  • Wikipedia]




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MONTAGUE WILLIAM III Son and heir of Simon de Montagu

The following text contains transcriptions of two letters from William Montague that were sent to Edward II just over 700 years ago.

[Calendar Chancery Warrents EII] 11 March 1316 Gamston. To John de Sandale, chancellor, and Sir Walter de Norwyz, treasurer. The king sends enclosed the transcript of a letter from his bachelor Sir William de Montague, by which they can know the news and state of the king's business in the parts of Galumorgan, saying that the king's ministers of those parts have served the king badly in choosing of footmen and that he has need of commissions for the despatch of the king's business. Mandate to look at the transcript and ordain the said commissions and punishment of the said ministers as shall seem best, and let William know hastily what has been done.

Sire, we were this Saturday evening at Tryllek and will be at Seuport on Sunday, 5 March and on Monday following we will ride against your enemies with the aid of God. Sir Henry de Lancastre came the same place with all his force, and lord of Hastingg also. As we understood at our departure that Sir Bartholomew de Badelesmere should come to us as our captain, we did not demand a commission; but sire, if you please, it will be convenient for us to have a commission for people to be intendant to us and to receive your enemies to your peace at your will, for otherwise we cannot follow your business as we should do . I have found your bailiff of Gloucester has served you falsely, for where he should have brought 100 footmen he only brought us 48, and these were of no value and said before him that he had taken scot to leave the good ones at home. I handed him over to the sheriff till your will be known. They were constables made to choose, and those good people before the sheriff for Sir Robert de Sapi and when they should have come to Monemouth to us they brought worthless rascals and took money to leave the good ones at home. Please order that they be punished, for others to take example, or you will be badly served; and command the sheriff of Gloucester hastily accordingly.

[Calendar Chancery Warrents EII] 24 March 1316 Langley. To John de Sandale, chancellor, and Sir Walter de Norwyz, treasurer. The king sends enclosed a letter from his bachelor Sir William de Montague, by which they can know the despatch of the king's business towards the parts of Glammorgan. Mandate to show it to the other people of the council at London, and in the matter of the commission which he prays for and the sending of money to those parts for wages of the people on the king's service make ordinance hastily as shall seem best, and certify the king without delay of what has been ordained. Sir Henry de Lancastre, Sir John de Giffard and we of your household rode on 12 March from Kayrdyf towards the castle of Kayrfily, and when we came to the Black Mountain, which is a little from the castle of Kayrfily, we found there Llewelyn Bren with all his host in battle upon the summit of the mountain, and they had dyked and fortified all the roads to the castle, and we went to the end of the mountain a good three leagues from the roads and took the mountain and passed along it among all their force and Llewelyn and a great part of his host took to flight and those who stayed were soon dead and discomfited, and then we went to the castle and garnished it sufficiently with people and victuals and took the lady out of the castle with us and on our return to Kayrdif we beat down all the dykes and forts that they had made, by which we understand that the war will soon be finished. If it please you to send us hastily a commission that I might take them unconditionally to your peace, and to succour us with money for wages, for we have at your wages 150 men at arms and 2,000 footmen, the war will soon be finished. Please let us know your will hastily, and thank Sir Henry and Sir John by letter for what they have done in aid of your business at great cost

posted by [Living O'Brien]
I think the daughter Katherine is fake. See her article. Round mentions that a full list of children is available because William's wife set up a chantry.
posted by Andrew Lancaster
De Montague-6 and Montagu-40 appear to represent the same person because: duplicates Montagu-40 is the correct LNAB
posted by Doug Lockwood
That's actually correct -- his son was the first Earl in the second creation of the title; see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_of_Salisbury
posted by [Living Schmeeckle]
His son was made 1st Earl of Salisbury... I think that the title here is wrong?
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
De Montagu-51 and Montagu-40 appear to represent the same person because: Line duplicated
posted by Anne B
For these early generations, the correct name is MontaCUTE. Isn't that cute :-)
posted by [Living Schmeeckle]

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