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Philippe (Neville) Dacre (abt. 1390 - aft. 1453)

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Philippe Dacre formerly Neville
Born about in Raby Castle, Staindrop, Co. Durhammap
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Wife of — married before [location unknown]
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Died after in Naworth Castle, Brampton, Cumberland, Englandmap
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Philippe de Neville is a descendant of Magna Carta surety barons Roger le Bigod, Hugh le Bigod, Richard de Clare, Gilbert de Clare, John FitzRobert, John de Lacy and Saher de Quincy.

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Biography

Philippe (Neville) Dacre was a member of aristocracy in England.

Parents

Father Sir Ralph Neville, 1st Earl Westmoreland, 4th Baron Neville[1][2][3][4][5][6][7] b. bt 1364 - 1367, d. 21 Oct 1425.

Mother Margaret Stafford[1][2][3][4][6][7] b. bef 1364, d. 9 Jun 1396

Birth

Richardson makes no statement regarding the date or place of Philippe's birth.[8] Since she married before 20 July 1399, a broad estimate of her birth year might be 1380, making her about 19 at her marriage.

Her husband was born at Naworth Castle, Cumberland, 27 October 1387. [8], making him 12 or younger at the time of marriage. This is a reminder that marriages were often arranged as matters of economic and political alliance between families well before the children were of age.

Their second child, Thomas, was born 1410, suggesting that their first child, John, was born 1408, further suggesting that they began living as man and wife in 1407. Her husband, born 1387, would have been 20 that year, and if she were 17, her birth year would be placed as 1390. At this point 1390 appears to be the best estimate for her birth year.

Marriage

She married Sir Thomas Dacre, 6th Baron Dacre of Gillesland, of Englewood Forest, Cumberland, England, son of Sir William de Dacre, 5th Lord Dacre of Gilsland and Joan de Douglas, before 20 July 1399.

Issue

They had [1][2][3][4][5][6][9]8 sons and 2 daughters: [8]

  1. Sir John, living 1439, dead by c. 1454 [8]
  2. Sir Thomas, b. 1410, Brampton, Cumberland; d. bt 1453 - 5 Jan 1458.[10][3][6]
  3. Sir Randolph, 1st Lord Dacre of the North [8]
  4. Sir Humphrey, b. 1424, Naworth Castle, Brampton, Cumberland. 2nd Lord Dacre of the North, Governor of Carlisle Castle, Warden of the West Marches. Died 30 May 1485.[1][3][6]
  5. Ralph[8]
  6. Richard[8]
  7. George[8]
  8. John (again)[8]
  9. Joan or Jane, b. 1415, Brampton, Cumberland; wife of Thomas de Clifford, 8th Lord Clifford. Died before May 1453.[11][1][5][6]
  10. Margaret, wife of John le Scrope of Masham. Living 18 Sep 1452.[12][1]

The following unproved child was also linked on WikiTree, but has been delinked pending obtaining documentation:

  1. Elizabeth Dacre, b. 1408, Halton, Lancashire; married Harrington

Death

Philippe Neville died between 8 July 1453 and 5 January 1458.[1][3][6]

Sources

  • Royal Ancestry D. Richardson 2013 Vol. II p. 372-375
  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 1.6 Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 250-1.
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 540-4.
  3. 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 3.4 3.5 Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. II, p. 16.
  4. 4.0 4.1 4.2 Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 246-8.
  5. 5.0 5.1 5.2 Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 246-7.
  6. 6.0 6.1 6.2 6.3 6.4 6.5 6.6 Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 372.
  7. 7.0 7.1 Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 232.
  8. 8.0 8.1 8.2 8.3 8.4 8.5 8.6 8.7 8.8 Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, 2013, Vol. II, p. 372-3
  9. Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 236.
  10. The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, by George Edward Cokayne, Vol. IV, p. 7-8.
  11. Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 216.
  12. The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom, Vol. XI, p. 569.

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Collaboration

On 8 Dec 2017 at 00:27 GMT Liz (Noland) Shifflett wrote:

Verified this profile as being on a project-approved trail (from Peyton-434 to Clavering-13 & Quincy-226, following "Magna Carta badged" profiles to those surety barons). The project account for the Magna Carta Project will be added as a manager later this month to meet WikiTree guidelines (see Help:Project-Managed_Profiles). Give me a holler if you have any questions. ~ Liz, Magna Carta project member

On 9 Jun 2015 at 17:17 GMT Liz (Noland) Shifflett wrote:

Hi! This profile is in the Magna Carta trail between the Gateway Ancestor Robert Peyton and Magna Carta surety baron Saher de Quincy.

See Magna Carta suggested lines for the profiles between Robert and Maud, de Quincy's 3x-gr-granddaughter. This trail has just been placed in the queue for review. For more information about the Magna Carta project, see the project page. To see information about the 800th Anniversary of the signing of the Magna Carta, see Magna Carta 800th.

Cheers, Liz



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