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Hugh (Neville) de Neville (abt. 1170 - bef. 1234)

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Sir Hugh de Neville formerly Neville
Born about in Great Hallingby, Essex, Englandmap
Ancestors ancestors
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married before [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died before in Rochford, Essex, Englandmap
Profile last modified | Created 21 Apr 2012
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Categories: Magna Carta | Illustrious Men | Third Crusade | House of Neville.

British Aristocracy
Hugh (Neville) de Neville was a member of aristocracy in the British Isles.
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Illustrious Men
Hugh de Neville was one of 16 Illustrious Men, counselors to King John, who were listed in the preamble to Magna Carta.
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Hugh de Neville

Disambiguation: "De Neville died 1234, but his death was erroneously recorded by Matthew Paris as occurring in 1222. This error led some earlier historians to postulate two different Hugh de Nevilles – the forester and a son also named Hugh. This disproved theory then had the elder Hugh dying in 1222 and the invented son dying in 1234." [1] Hugh "is said to have been the son of Ralph de Neville (fl. 1170) (Dugdale, Baronage, i. 288).
Accordingly, he must be distinguished from 1.) Hugh, son of Ernisius de Neville, who guarded the bishop of Beauvais at Rouen in 1198 (Rog. Hov. iv. 401); and 2.) Hugh, son of Henry de Neville of Lincolnshire.
The number of Nevilles named Hugh and the absence of distinguishing marks between them render their biography largely a matter of conjecture. Members of the family were numerous in Yorkshire, Lincolnshire, and neighboring counties. [2][3]

Crusade with Richard I

Hugh de Neville, baron, was brought up with Richard I. In 1190, he accompanied the king on crusade.
1192: At siege of Joppa. Gives account to Ralph of Coggeshall[4] Gets home safe while Richard gets imprisoned. On the king's release, Hugh accompanies him on his Normandy expedition in May 1194.[2]

Chief Justice of Forests

1198: Appointed chief justice of forests. During visitation, Roger Hoveden complains about his extortions.[5]
1199: Acts in same capacity ... used by Richard for negotiations with Cistercians.[6]
Early in John's reign, he's directed to exercise office as it had been during the reign of Henry II.
1203: He witnessed the agreement for Queen Isabella's dowry (Rymer). From this time, his name constantly occurs in the ‘Close’ and ‘Patent Rolls’ as witness to grants, and as one of John's chief advisers.
1208: Appointed treasurer. Adheres to John's struggles with the pope and barons. Matthew Paris calls Hugh one of the king's evil counsellors.
1213: Warden of the sea ports in the counties of Devon, Cornwall, Dorset, and Southampton.[7][2]

King John's Counselor at Runnymede

1215: Neville, his father-in-law Henry de Cornhill, and his son John, adhere to the king to the last. He was present at Runnymede, and signed the Magna Charta (Stubbs, Const. Hist. i. 581); for his services to John he received from him numerous grants of land, including Comb-Nevil, Surrey, which had belonged to the Cornhill family.[8][2]

Joins Rebel Barons

On John's death, Neville joins the barons. He swears allegiance to Louis, hands him over the castle of Marlborough. For defection, he forfeits offices.
1217: Lands in Lincolnshire granted to William de Neville (probably relative). Before year end, Hugh makes peace and recovers most, if not all, his land.[9][2]

Buried in Waltham Abbey

Hugh was buried in Waltham Abbey, which he enriched by the grant of Horndon-on-the-Hill, Essex (Matthew Paris, iii. 71; Dugdale, Monasticon, ii. 187; Farmer, Waltham Abbey, pp. 66–8).[2]
Several of Neville's charters are preserved in the British Museum (MSS. Nos. 54 B; 8, 9, 13, 14, 16, 17, 33, 35), and to two is affixed his well-known seal bearing a representation of a man slaying a lion. Matthew Paris gives the story of Hugh's encounter with a lion in the Holy Land, which was the origin of the seal.[2]

Vitals

Hugh de Neville[10]
b. abt 1170: Great Hallingbury, Essex[11][12][13][14][11]
d. BEF 21 JUL 1234[13]

Early Life

p. Ralph de Neville and ___ Rafin m. abt 1170 [13]

Marriage

m. Joan De Cornhill BEF 30 APR 1200. [13] Issue:
John De Neville
Joan De Neville

Occupation

Sheriff of Essex, Hertfordshire, and Lincolnshire[13]

Sources

  1. Wikipedia: Hugh de Neville
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 2.5 2.6 Dictionary of National Biography, database online, entry for Hugh de Neville extracted from Albert Frederick Pollard, Internet Archive, (New York, Macmillan, Smith, Elder & Co., 1894), Vol XL, page 260-261
  3. See also: Crook "Neville, Hugh de (d. 1234)" Oxford Dictionary of National Biography.
  4. [q. v.] (Coggeshall, pp. 45, 103; Matthew Paris, iii. 71; Itinerarium Regis Ricardi, p. xxxviii).
  5. iv. 63
  6. Coggeshall, p. 103
  7. (Madox, Exchequer, i. 650)
  8. Manning and Bray, i. 399
  9. cf. his letter to his cousin Ralph in Shirley, Royal and Hist. Letters, i. 68
  10. De Neville-202. My Family_2011-08-21.ged (Aug 21, 2011). Kate G.
  11. 11.0 11.1 Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 413-414.
  12. Disputed Birth: abt 1182 Lincolnshire
  13. 13.0 13.1 13.2 13.3 13.4 Geneajourney.com
  14. 1190: Neville went on Crusade with Richard I; not possible to be born as late as 1182. Hugh's father Ralph thought to have m. 1170 ... supports DOB abt 1170.
  • Records of the Borough of Nottingham (London, 1882) Vol. 1 King Henry II. to King Richard II. 1155-1399 Page 15: "This is followed in Greaves MS by a Confirmation of this grant by Henry III dated Nov. 9, 1221 Hugh de Neville died in 1222 Mat. Paris, iii. 71."
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On 18 May 2018 at 07:02 GMT Liz (Noland) Shifflett wrote:

Hi! The Magna Carta project is working toward having a project member contact for each of the Illustrious Men named in the preamble to the Magna Carta, to aid collaboration and to help watch over the profile. (See details in the description of the role for Surety Specialists here, on the project's Glossary page.)
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On 23 Feb 2018 at 20:48 GMT Darlene (Athey) Athey-Hill wrote:

Jim Weber has her as daughter, but no sources attached. He closely follows the soc.genealogy.medieval posts. For now, I would leave her attached and mark the relationship uncertain unless someone has proof that she isn't a daughter. See: https://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jweber&id=I11913

On 23 Feb 2018 at 19:29 GMT Bree Ogle wrote:

Need a valid source for alleged dau. Joan.

On 6 Dec 2017 at 15:01 GMT Liz (Noland) Shifflett wrote:

thanks Rick! If your edits resolved the source check/review "needs", go ahead and remove them from the template (and add back "|category=Illustrious Men" which will override the automatically added Category:Magna Carta Project Maintenance Profiles & remove it too.

Cheers, Liz

On 5 Dec 2017 at 16:04 GMT Liz (Noland) Shifflett wrote:

Hi! Because this profile is not eligible for the Magna Carta project box, the Magna Carta Project cannot be its manager. Therefore, I dropped the project to just trusted list (profiles with the Magna Carta Project sticker need to be monitored by the project but cannot be managed by it).

Could you add the appropriate EuroAristo project account as manager?

Please contact me if this is not feasible & I'll work on getting a fourth Magna Carta project box for the Illustrious Men.

Thanks, Liz ~ Project:Magna Carta



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