Jollan (Neville) de Neville
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Jollan (Neville) de Neville (bef. 1188 - 1246)

Jollan de Neville formerly Neville
Born before in Rolleston, Nottinghamshire, Englandmap
Ancestors ancestors
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married before 1224 [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died after age 58 in Englandmap
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Biography

Jollan de Neville (d.1246), was a younger son of Joelin or Joslen [aka Jollan] de Neville (d. 1207),[1][2] a clerk in the exchequer, and Amfelise (Amflicia) de Rolleston, dau. of Alan, constable of Richmond.[3]

Origins

Losoard (Losward),1 (fl. 1086).
> Richard de Rigsby2 (fl. 1115 x 1118).
>> Roscelin.3 m. prob. unknown NEVILLE
>> Joelin (or Jollan),4 (d. 1207). m. Amflicia [aka Amfelise, Amphyllis, etc], dau. of Alan, constable of Richmond --- Joelin is prob. same person as Jollan de Neville, grantee of Pickhill. Prob. assumed the Neville surname from his mother.[4]
>>> Joehelin "Jollan" de Neville, superior justice at Westminster.5 (d. 1246).

Siblings

He had an older brother John (b. c. 1187 - dsp 1219), who was of age before 1208.[1] John served in Gascony and died childless, leaving Jollan to succeed.[2]

Marriage

Jollan probably married Maud. Her mother was Eva, daughter of John de Grey, who presumably descends from the Greys of Rotherfield.

While Maud's mother is known, paternity has yet to be established.[5]

Eva's first husband Ralph Murdac (d. abt. 1196/7), was a royal judge. So it's possible that he knew justice Neville.[5]

If Murdac was not Maud's father then he may have been Eva's second husband, Andrew Beauchamp, which would account for the given name of Jollan's younger son.[6]

m. prob. Maud, dau. of Eva de Grey (d. 1246), dau. of John.[5]

children

  • Jollan (b. c. 1224/5, age 22.5 in 1246).[3][5]
m. (1245) Sarah, widow of John Heriz.[3][7]
m. ...  ?[citation needed][9]
m. ... Ward.[10]

Occupation

He was a judge in, co. York. & co. Northumb. during Aug 1234, 1235, 1240 & Nov 1241.[3]

From 1241 - 1245 Jollan was a superior judge at Westminster.[3]

Research

  • need evidence for marriage: who, what, when, where, why?
  • CAUTION: Neville of Holte, co. Leic. in Vis. of Leic. 1619 has many errors and tries to make the Nevilles of Holte a cadet branch of the Nevilles of Raby, co. Durham through paternal lineage.

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 Farrer, W. & Clay, CT (2013). The Honour of Richmond II. Early Yorkshire Charters, V, p. 154. Google Books.
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 Clay, C.T. & Greenway, D.E. (2013). "Neville of Pickhill," in Early Yorkshire Families, p. 66-67. Cambridge University Press. Google Books.
  3. 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 3.4 Neville, Jolan (d. 1246), in DNB. Google Books.
  4. Farrer & Clay, 2013, p. 67).[1]
  5. 5.0 5.1 5.2 5.3 Baggs, A P, Eleanor Chance, Christina Colvin, C J Day, Nesta Selwyn, and S C Townley. "Standlake: Manors." A History of the County of Oxford: Volume 13, Bampton Hundred (Part One). Eds. Alan Crossley, and C R J Currie. London: Victoria County History, 1996. 180-183. British History Online. Web. 14 November 2019. http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/oxon/vol13/pp180-183.
  6. see also: Fletcher (1887), makes Maud the daughter of Ralph Murdock (Murdac), which is uncertain. He also gives a different construction of Jollan's heritage.
    • CAUTION: Fletcher, W.G.D. (1887). "Royal descent of Carington and Smith from Alfred the Great," in Leicestershire Pedigrees and Royal Descents. Google Books..
  7. 7.0 7.1 Nichols, J. (17951811). The history and antiquities of the county of Leicester. London: J. Nichols. Hathitrust.org. eBook.
  8. Page, W. (1914). "Parishes: Pickhill with Roxby," in A History of the County of York North Riding, 1, pp. 377 - 383. London: Victoria County History. BHO. eBook.
  9. CAUTION: Andrew's placement & wife in Vis. of Leics. 1619 is disputed.[2]
  10. 10.0 10.1 Baildon and the Baildons; a history of a Yorkshire manor and family, p. 233. Archive.org.

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Neville-1715 and Neville-1448 appear to represent the same person because: appears to be the same person
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