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Eleanor (Neville) Percy (abt. 1400 - bef. 1473)

Eleanor Percy formerly Neville aka le Despencer
Born about in Englandmap [uncertain]
Ancestors ancestors
Wife of — married about Jan 1412 (to about 1413) in Raby Castle, Durham, Englandmap
Wife of — married 1416 in Berwick, Northumberland, Englandmap
Descendants descendants
Died before before about age 73 in Englandmap
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Biography

Eleanor was the daughter of Ralph Neville[1] and his second wife Joan Beaufort.[2][3][4] Her birth date is uncertain, but her parents married before 29 November 1396[5][6] and it has been guesstimated as about 1400. Her birthplace is not known.

Eleanor married twice. Her first husband was Richard le Despenser.[2][3][4] A licence for their marriage at Raby Castle, County Durham was issued on 12 January 1412 and a dispensation for it (as they were related in the third degree) was dated the next day.[7] They had no children:[1] he died, age 16, on 11 October 1413, and his Inquisition Post Mortem names his heir as his sister Isabel.[8] On 1 February 1415 Eleanor was confirmed in her right to dower property from her first marriage.[9] The extent of her dower rights in Worcestershire was determined by an Inquisition Post Mortem on 29 August 1415, pursuant to a writ issued on 22 February that year.[10]

Eleanor married Henry Percy,[1][4][11][12] son of Henry Percy (Harry Hotspur) between 28 February and 18 March 1416 at Berwick on Tweed.[2][3][13] They had twelve children, all listed in the 1812 edition of Collins's Peerage:[13]

In March 1416 the intervention of Eleanor's mother helped her second husband gain the title of Earl of Northumberland, which had not previously passed to him because of his father's rebellion; he was granted associated estates.[2][3][13]

In 1440 Eleanor received a minor bequest under the will her father.[2][3][15]

In 37 Henry VI (1 September 1458 - 31 August 1459) Eleanor made a gift of the advowson of Leconfield, Yorkshire to the Abbey of Alnwick, Northumberland, reserving to herself lands at Leconfield.[16]

Eleanor's husband died fighting for Henry VI in the 1st Battle of St Albans on 22 May 1455.[4] Eleanor survived him.[2][3] She was presumably alive on 29 February 1472 when her daughter-in-law Eleanor Poynings was referred to in the Patent Rolls as "Eleanor, countess of Northumberland, the younger" to distinguish her from the Eleanor of this profile.[17] A writ of diem clausit extremum (to protect the king’s interests in her estate) was dated 6 February 1473, so the likelihood is she died shortly before that.[18] The record of her Inquisition Post Mortem appears to have been lost.[19]

Research Notes

Death Date

Weis's Ancestral Roots gives Eleanor's death date as 1463, with no clear sourcing.[20] His Magna Carta Sureties gives no death date for her.[21]

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 John Fetherston (ed.). The Visitation of the County of Warwick in the year 1619, Harleian Society, 1877, p. 284, Internet Archve
  2. 2.00 2.01 2.02 2.03 2.04 2.05 2.06 2.07 2.08 2.09 2.10 2.11 2.12 2.13 2.14 2.15 2.16 2.17 Douglas Richardson. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham, 2nd edition (Salt Lake City: the author, 2011), Vol. III, pp. 343-345, PERCY 11
  3. 3.00 3.01 3.02 3.03 3.04 3.05 3.06 3.07 3.08 3.09 3.10 3.11 3.12 3.13 3.14 3.15 3.16 3.17 Douglas Richardson. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City: the author, 2013), Vol. IV, pp. 357-359, PERCY 13
  4. 4.0 4.1 4.2 4.3 4.4 G E Cokayne. Complete Peerage, revised edition, Vol. IX, St Catherine Press, 1936, pp. 715-716, viewable on Familysearch
  5. Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 246, NEVILLE 9, Google Books
  6. Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, p. 233, NEVILLE 13
  7. Testamenta Eboracensia, Vol. III, Surtees Society, 1865, p. 321, Internet Archive
  8. J L Kirby, 'Inquisitions Post Mortem, Henry V, Entries 250-299', in Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem: Volume 20, Henry V (London, 1995), pp. 81-96, British History Online, entry 279, accessed 26 May 2022
  9. Calendar of the Patent Rolls, Henry V, A.D. 1413-1416, HMSO, 1910, pp. 286-287, Hathi Trust
  10. J L Kirby, 'Inquisitions Post Mortem, Henry V, Entries 608-653', in Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem: Volume 20, Henry V (London, 1995), pp. 198-207, British History Online, entry 632, accessed 26 May 2022
  11. 11.00 11.01 11.02 11.03 11.04 11.05 11.06 11.07 11.08 11.09 11.10 11.11 Cartularium Abbathiae de Whiteby, Surtees Society, 1881, pp. 694-695, Internet Archive
  12. 12.0 12.1 12.2 12.3 12.4 12.5 12.6 12.7 12.8 12.9 Charles Best Norcliffe (ed.). The Visitation of Yorkshire in the years 1563 and 1564 made by William Flower, Esquire, Harleian Society, 1881, p. 243, Internet Archive
  13. 13.0 13.1 13.2 Egerton Brydges. Collins's Peerage, greatly enlarged and continued to the present time, Vol. II, 1812, pp. 273ff., Internet Archive
  14. 14.0 14.1 Collectanea Topographica et Genealogica, Vol. VI, John Bowyer Nicholas and Son, 1840, p. 275, Internet Archive
  15. Wills and Inventories illustrate of the History, Manners, Language, Statistics &c of the Northern Counties of England, Part I, Surtees Society, 1835, p. 72, InternetArchive
  16. List of Inquisitions Ad Quod Damnum, Part II, HMSO, 1906 (Kraus Reprint Corporation, 1963), p. 758, Internet Archive
  17. Calendar of the Patent Rolls, Edward IV and Henry VI, A.D. 1467-1477, HMSO, 1900, p. 312, Internet Archive
  18. Great Britain. Calendar of the Fine Rolls, vol. 21, Edward IV, Edward V, Richard III: 1471-1485. (London, 1961): page 38.
  19. The National Archives, ref. C 140/39/2, Discovery Centre catalogue entry
  20. Frederick Lewis Weis. Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who came to America before 1700, 8th edition, Genealogical Publishing Company, 2004, p. 30, line 19.33
  21. Frederick Lewis Weis. The Magna Carta Sureties, 1215, 5th edition, Genealogical Publishing Company, 1999, p. 65, line 45.8

Acknowledgements

Magna Carta Project

This profile was developed for the Magna Carta Project by Michael Cayley on 26 May 2022 and was reviewed the same day by Thiessen-117.
Eleanor (Neville) Percy is in a trail, identified by the Magna Carta Project in 2015, from Gateway Ancestors, brothers William Torrey and Samuel Torrey, to Magna Carta Surety Baron John FitzRobert. This trail was badged by the project on 26 May 2022. See this trail in the Magna Carta Trails section of William Torrey's profile.
See Base Camp for more information about identified Magna Carta trails and their status. See the project's glossary for project-specific terms, such as a "badged trail".




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Source is claiming July 3 as her death date

July 3, 1472: Posited date that Eleanor Neville, Countess of Northumberland, died at Raby Castle in Durham. The second daughter of Ralph de Neville, 1st Earl of Westmorland, and Joan Beaufort, she was an older sister of Cecily Neville, Duchess of York. She first married Richard le Despenser, 4th Baron Burghersh but had no children with him before his death. Her second marriage was to Henry Percy, 2nd Earl of Northumberland, and they had ten children. Four of her sons, not to mention her husband, were killed during the Wars of the Roses, fighting on the Lancastrian side as opposed to the rest of her family. One can imagine Eleanor's grief and struggle as she watched her families tear themselves apart in the conflict.

https://thehistoryjar.com/2018/04/03/joan-beauforts-descendants-eleanor-neville-countess-of-northumberland

posted by Michael Meggison
Thanks. That webpage just says she died in 1472, which is the year given in this profile, and does not give a day as far as I can see, nor a death place. FYI. thehistoryjar is someone's blog - it can be a helpful pointer but is not itself a particularly reliable source. The suggested death place of Raby Castle is almost certainly just a guess.
posted by Michael Cayley
edited by Michael Cayley
She has an inquisition post mortem which you might expect to provide her exact death date. It is unfortunately in that time period which has not been published. Still, if the date appeared in her IPM you would think it would be a well-established fact. Complete Peerage implies the date is not known saying she "appears to have died about 1472/3 (12 Edw. IV)". Her writ of diem clausit extremum was issued 6 Feb. 1473 - you would not expect a 7 month delay between her death and her writ of DCE. I have not found the document which even says she was definitely dead in 1472 and I would place her death at shortly before 6 Feb 1473 at this point.
posted by Joe Cochoit
According to the National Archives, the IPM of Eleanor, Countess of Northumberland is missing.
posted by Joe Cochoit
Thanks, Joe. I have added a little to the bio. Please make any improvements you feel appropriate.
posted by Michael Cayley
I plan soon to develop this profile for the Magna Carta Project.
posted by Michael Cayley
I have now written a biography section and made associated changes. If anyone spots any typos etc, please either correct them or message me. Thanks!
posted by Michael Cayley
Marriage licence and dispensation: Test. Ebor. 3, ed. Raine, p. 321, 1411/2 Jan 12 and 13.
posted by [Living Horace]
mca has marriage to percy as "at Berwick shortly after Oct. 1414" (p 78)
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
update: removed John Locke as her husband and Thomas Locke as her son (July 21, 2015)

Lewis has birth as 1398 & only le Despenser & Percy as husbands. Percy died 1455. Richardson's Magna Carta Ancestry shows only le Despenser & Percy as her husbands (p 249).

Only place I could find that she married John Locke was in Wikipedia's sidebar for her - not in the article, just the sidebar. And no references or sources for either.

So... unless anyone objects (and/or provides a source), I'm going to disconnect John Locke as husband #3.

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Neville-1988 and Neville-49 appear to represent the same person because: birth years differ - 1407 is marked with "Citation needed" in text for Neville-49 & Neville-1988's 1398 has no citation. However, these are duplicate profiles that should be merged (both married to Henry Percy, attached profiles for dads are in a proposed merge & their mom's the same). Thanks!
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Neville-1861 and Neville-49 appear to represent the same person because: I just merged duplicate profiles for son Ralph. These profiles should be merged too. Thanks!
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett

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