John Neville (1493 - 1543)

Born 17 Nov 1493 in Snape Hall, Snape, Yorkshire, England

Ancestors

Husband of Dorothy (De Vere) Neville — married about 1512 in Oxford, Oxfordshire, England

Husband of Elizabeth (Musgrave) Neville — married 20 Jul 1526 in Snape, Yorkshire, England

Husband of Katherine Parr — married after May 1534 (to 2 Mar 1543) in England

Descendants

Died 2 Mar 1543 at age 49 in City of London, England

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Biography

Disambiguation

There was another individual by the same name at Henry VIII's court, also a knight and also hailing from Yorkshire, England: John Neville of Chevet. The latter was from another branch of the Neville family and was executed for treason in 1541.^[1] Sources such as the Letters and Papers for Henry VIII don't always differentiate the two knights.^[2]

Birth

Sir John Neville, 3rd Lord Latimer, was born on 17 November 1493, possibly in Yorkshire, England.^[3] He was the eldest son of Richard Neville and Anne Stafford.

Marriage

John married three times:

1. Dorothy de Vere, daughter of Sir George de Vere and Margaret Stafford, likely before 1520 when their eldest son was born.^[4] She died on 7 February 1526/7.
2. Elizabeth Musgrave, daughter of Sir Edward Musgrave and Joan Ward, marriage license dating from 20 July 1528 for marriage to take place at Snape, Yorkshire, England.^[5][6] She probably died before 1534.
3. Kateryne Parr, daughter of Sir Thomas Parr and Maud Greene, after May 1534. The exact date in which the wedding took place is not known. It is known, nevertheless, that on 10 May 1534 Kateryn Parr presented John Lyngfeld, alias Huntley, prior of St. James, Tanryge, Surrey, (...) to accept the parish church of Oxsted and she was referred to then as Katherine Burgh, widow.^[7]

Children

John Neville had two children, both with Dorothy de Vere:

1. John Neville, born c. 1520, probably in Yorkshire, married Lucy Somerset, d. 1577.
2. Margaret Neville, born before 1527, died unmarried and without issue in 1546.

Knighthood

John Neville was knighted in France on 14 October 1513 after the Battle of the Spurs.^{[8][9][10][11]} The latter was part of the War of the League of Cambrai which took place between February 1508 and December 1516.^[12]

He was one of the Gentlemen Pensioners and can be identified as such on a list dating from 1526.^[13] The Honourable Band of Gentlemen Pensioners was created in 1509 and constituted a corps of noble men who guarded the king, especially in the battlefield.^[14]

3rd Baron Latimer

John Neville joined Parliament in 1529 as one of the Knights of Yorkshire and in December 1530 he succeeded his father Richard Neville, the 2nd Lord Latimer, taking a seat at the House of Lords that same year.^[15] He remained a member of the House of the Lords until his death in 1543, alternating residence amongst his various estates and his London house, although it would seem that Snape Castle remained as his main residence at least until the Pilgrimage of Grace in 1536.^[16]

Death and Probate

John Neville died on 2 March 1542/3 in London, Middlesex, England, and was buried at St Paul's Cathedral.^[17] According to John Weever, who must have seen Neville's tomb before 1632, the monument was broken to pieces.^[18]

Sources

1. ↑ L. M. Kirk & Alan Davidson. NEVILLE, Sir John II (by 1488-1541), of Chevet, Yorks. and Mile End, Stepney, Mdx. The History of Parliament Online. Accessed on 1 Jan 2024.
2. ↑ "Henry VIII: May 1527, 21-31," in Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 4, 1524-1530, ed. J S Brewer (London: Her Majesty's Stationery Office, 1875), 1423-1431. British History Online, accessed December 26, 2023, http://www.british-history.ac.uk/letters-papers-hen8/vol4/pp1423-1431.
3. ↑ Book: Collectanea topographica et genealogica
   London J.B. Nichols; 1834; page: 174
   Internet Archive (accessed 17 November 2023)
4. ↑ Book: The St Cathering Press London, The Complete Peerage Vol-vii
   1929; page: (496 of 770)
   Internet Archive (accessed 17 November 2023)
5. ↑ Book: James Raine, John William Clay, Testamenta Eboracensia, Or Wills Registered at York: Or, Wills Registered at ...
   J. B. Nichols; 1865; page: (386 of 457)
   Internet Archive (accessed 17 November 2023)
6. ↑ Book: The St Cathering Press London, The Complete Peerage Vol-vii
   1929; page: (496 of 770)
   Internet Archive (accessed 28 November 2023)
7. ↑ Gairdner, James (ed.). Henry VIII: May 1534, 26-31', in Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII. Volume 7, 1534, May Grants, n. 19. London: 1883, p. 277-294. Accessed on British History Online on 17 September 2023.
8. ↑ "Appendix: Commissions of the Peace and Miscellaneous," in Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 1, 1509-1514, ed. J S Brewer (London: His Majesty's Stationery Office, 1920), 1533-1557. British History Online, accessed December 7, 2023, http://www.british-history.ac.uk/letters-papers-hen8/vol1/pp1533-1557.
9. ↑ Book: The St Cathering Press London, The Complete Peerage Vol-vii
   1929; page: (496 of 770)
   Internet Archive (accessed 7 December 2023)
10. ↑ Book: Shaw, William Arthur, 1865-1943; Burtchaell, George Dames, 1853-1921, The Knights of England. A complete record from the earliest time to the present day of the knights of all the orders of chivalry in England, Scotland, and Ireland, and of knights bachelors, incorporating a complete list of knights bachelors dubbed in Ireland
    London Sherratt and Hughes; 1906; page: (50 of 692)
    Internet Archive (accessed 7 December 2023)
11. ↑ Wikipedia entry: Wikipedia contributors, "Battle of the Spurs"
    Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia (accessed 7 December 2023)
12. ↑ Wikipedia entry: Wikipedia contributors, "War of the League of Cambrai"
    Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia (accessed 7 December 2023)
13. ↑ "Henry VIII: January 1526, 26-31," in Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 4, 1524-1530, ed. J S Brewer (London: Her Majesty's Stationery Office, 1875), 852-878. British History Online, accessed December 11, 2023, Royal MS. 7 C. XVI. f. 123. B. M.
14. ↑ Wikipedia contributors, "Honourable Corps of Gentlemen at Arms," Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Honourable_Corps_of_Gentlemen_at_Arms&oldid=1173952034 (accessed December 11, 2023).
15. ↑ L. M. Kirk & Alan Davidson.NEVILLE, Sir John I (1493-1543), of Snape, Yorks.. History of Parliament Online. Accessed on 7 Dec 2023.
16. ↑ James, Susan. Kateryn Parr : the making of a queen. Aldershot: Ashgate, 1999, p. 86.
17. ↑ Book: The St Cathering Press London, The Complete Peerage Vol-vii
    1929; page: (496 of 770)
    Internet Archive (accessed 1 January 2024)
18. ↑ Book: Weever, John, 1576-1632; Tooke, William, 1744-1820, Antient funeral monuments, of Great-Britain, Ireland, and the islands adjacent
    London, Printed by W. Tooke, for the editor; 1767; page: 160
    Internet Archive (accessed 1 January 2024)

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